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12/03/10, 1:28 PM
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The Chairmaker
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SimulationCraft for Warlocks (Cataclysm Edition)
Note: The trinket charts now only evaluate procs, not passive stats! (read why)
This post now automatically updates to reflect the latest results at simulationcraft.org. Click on the charts below for details and scale factors: Last edited by Zakalwe : 11/29/11 at 5:01 AM. |
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12/03/10, 1:30 PM
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The Chairmaker
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Last edited by Zakalwe : 06/19/11 at 1:13 AM. |
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12/05/10, 2:57 AM
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I ended up toying around with the Warlock_Affliction_Blue_346 profile and found a few changes to increase the DPS from 19470 to 20704.
First was mentioned by the previous poster in swapping glyphs to Corruption from Unstable Affliction. Second change was going from Inscription to Tailoring to use the Lightweave Embroidery 2 enchant. The last change was in the gear pieces to use.  head=helm_of_the_typhonic_beast,heroic=1,type=cloth,stats=242int_454sta_162hit_182mastery_942armor,reforge=mastery_haste,gems=ember_shadowspirit_54int_20int_20haste_30int,enchant=60int_35crit neck=string_of_beaded_bubbles,stats=168int_252sta_112hit_112mastery,reforge=mastery_haste shoulders=mantle_of_the_eastern_lords,heroic=1,type=cloth,stats=205int_337sta_150mastery_130hit_870armor,reforge=mastery_haste,gems=20int_20haste_10int,enchant=50int_25haste chest=inquisition_robes,type=cloth,stats=262int_454sta_202hit_162mastery_1160armor,reforge=mastery_haste,gems=20int_20haste_40int_20mastery,enchant=20all waist=dreamless_belt,type=cloth,stats=233int_380sta_149hit_169mastery_704armor,reforge=mastery_haste,gems=20int_20hit_40int_10hit legs=breeches_of_mended_nightmares,type=cloth,stats=321int_512sta_214crit_216haste_1015armor,reforge=crit_hit,gems=20int_20hit_10haste,enchant=95int_80sta feet=desert_walker_sandals,type=cloth,stats=233int_380sta_169hit_149haste_860armor,reforge=hit_mastery,gems=20int_20haste_10hit,enchant=50haste wrists=sand_silk_wristband,heroic=1,type=cloth,stats=168int_252sta_112crit_112hit_507armor,reforge=crit_haste,enchant=65haste hands=flamebloom_gloves,type=cloth,stats=233int_380sta_169mastery_149haste_782armor,reforge=mastery_hit,gems=20int_20hit_10int,enchant=50haste finger1=anthias_ring,heroic=1,stats=168int_252sta_98hit_120mastery,reforge=mastery_haste,enchant=40int finger2=band_of_lamentation,stats=168int_252sta_112mastery_112hit,reforge=mastery_haste,enchant=40int trinket1=witching_hourglass,heroic=1,stats=285int,equip=onspellcast_1710haste_10%_15dur_75cd trinket2=gale_of_shadows,stats=285haste,reforge=haste_hit,equip=onspelldamage_17sp_20stack_15dur back=periwinkle_cloak,heroic=1,stats=168int_252sta_112haste_112mastery_580armor,reforge=mastery_hit,enchant=lightweave_embroidery_2 main_hand=cerith_spire_staff,heroic=1,stats=302int_454sta_202hit_202haste_1732sp,reforge=hit_mastery,enchant=power_torrent,weapon=staff_2.10speed_344min_517max ranged=corlas_baton,heroic=1,stats=95int_143sta_68mastery_56hit,reforge=mastery_haste *edit - thanks to the next poster, I changed an item or two for a bigger dps gain. Last edited by flameboy6184 : 12/05/10 at 12:33 PM. |
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12/05/10, 10:30 AM
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Glass Joe
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I spent some time on the Warlock_Destruction_Blue_346 profile. The overall DPS increased from 20070 to 21013 through gear changes and swapping inscription for tailoring. Thanks to the poster above for the tailoring idea. Increased DPS by over 100 compared to inscription.
head=Cowl_of_Pleasant_Gloom,type=cloth,stats=242int_454sta_162hit_182crit_942armor,reforge=crit_haste,gems=ember_shadowspirit_54int_20int_20hit_30int,enchant=60int_35crit neck=Charm_of_The_Muse,heroic=1,stats=252sta_168int_112hit_112crit,reforge=hit_haste shoulders=mantle_of_the_eastern_lords,heroic=1,type=cloth,stats=205int_337sta_150mastery_130hit_870armor,reforge=mastery_haste,gems=20int_20haste_10int,enchant=50int_25haste chest=Robes_of_Orsis,heroic=1,type=cloth,stats=262int_454sta_192hit_172crit_1160armor,reforge=crit_haste,gems=20int_20haste_20int_20hit_20int,enchant=20all waist=Dreamless_Belt,heroic=0,type=cloth,stats=233int_380sta_149hit_169mastery_704armor,reforge=mastery_haste,gems=20int_20hit_40int_10hit legs=Breeches_of_Mended_Nightmares,heroic=0,type=cloth,stats=512sta_321int_214crit_216haste_1094armor,reforge=crit_hit,gems=40int_10haste,enchant=95int_80sta feet=Desert_Walker_Sandals,heroic=1,type=cloth,stats=233int_380sta_169hit_149haste_860armor,gems=40int,enchant=35mastery wrists=sand_silk_wristband,heroic=1,type=cloth,stats=168int_252sta_112crit_112hit_507armor,reforge=hit_haste,enchant=65haste hands=Flamebloom_Gloves,heroic=0,type=cloth,stats=233int_380sta_149haste_169mastery_725armor,reforge=mastery_hit,gems=20hit_20int_10int,enchant=50haste finger1=band_of_rays,heroic=1,stats=168int_252sta_112crit_112hit,reforge=crit_haste,enchant=40int finger2=lavishly_jeweled_ring,heroic=1,stats=133int_252sta_112mastery_107hit,reforge=mastery_haste,gems=40int_10hit,enchant=40int trinket1=witching_hourglass,heroic=1,stats=285int,equip=onspellcast_1710haste_10%_15dur_75cd trinket2=Darkmoon_Card:_Tsunami,heroic=0,stats=321int back=Shadow_of_Perfect_Bliss,heroic=1,stats=168int_252sta_85hit_128crit_580armor,reforge=crit_haste,enchant=lightweave_embroidery_2 main_hand=modguds_blade,heroic=1,stats=129int_194sta_86crit_86hit_1729sp,reforge=crit_haste,enchant=power_torrent,weapon=dagger_1.80speed_516min_958max off_hand=beautys_favorite_bone,heroic=1,stats=168int_252sta_98crit_120hit,reforge=crit_haste,enchant=100int ranged=corlas_baton,heroic=1,stats=95int_143sta_68mastery_56hit,reforge=mastery_haste # Gear Summary # gear_strength=20 # gear_agility=20 # gear_stamina=4846 # gear_intellect=4355 # gear_spirit=20 # gear_spell_power=1729 # gear_hit_rating=1756 # gear_crit_rating=858 # gear_haste_rating=1298 # gear_mastery_rating=438 # gear_armor=7442 # meta_gem=ember_shadowspirit # main_hand=modguds_blade,heroic=1,weapon=dagger_1.80speed_516min_958max,enchant=power_torrent *Edit. Meta not activated in first post. Now fixed. *2nd Edit: Switched Enchant on hands, switched Trinket2 to Darkmoon Card: Tsunami Last edited by Pèanut : 12/05/10 at 11:28 PM. |
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12/05/10, 10:41 AM
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<3 Kitty
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12/06/10, 2:01 AM
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The Chairmaker
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12/06/10, 7:40 AM
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Glass Joe
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12/06/10, 8:03 AM
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<3 Kitty
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With the relevant raid buffs (15% ImpSF/5% Raid Aura/3% Dark Intent), Immolate has a duration of 14.056 seconds (7.47 ticks, rounding down to 7). Hand of Gul'dan, with this same haste, has a 1.434 second cast time. Add in the 12 second CD, giving a total duration of 13.434 seconds. Giving only a 0.57 second gap. While it is not impossible to refresh Immolate with HoG at this level of haste, it will be very very difficult, factor in a little latency (250-300ms in my case) and it becomes even more difficult. Last edited by Jmickey : 12/06/10 at 9:01 AM. Reason: Corrected based on post below, plus some spelling. |
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12/06/10, 8:28 AM
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Von Kaiser
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I don't think you should take travel time into account when talking about Cremation refreshes as cooldown will start before the spell actually hits, so for all refreshes after the first one (which shouldn't be a problem aswell, as You'll probably start the fight with cod>immo>cor>hog>...) it's actually cooldown+cast time.
Still, the window is obviously too narrow and we're all hoping Blizzard notices it someday - going by SimulationCraft Demonology really needs it fixed to stay competitive. Edit: To clear up the confusion: I wasn't refering to simcraft at all, my post was targeted at the one above mine made by Jmickey (probably should've quoted it) which was edited later due to my post, and a bit of correction that came with it. Sorry!  Last edited by whi : 12/10/10 at 12:19 AM. Reason: Post below. |
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12/06/10, 10:10 AM
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Piston Honda
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I've done some (brief) testing with Zakalwe to try and determine the travel-time of HoGd (running on the assumption that the refresh of Immolate occurs at the same time as the damage is applied), but it wasn't constant and to me looked susiciously like about double my latency. One important thing to come out of those tests was that the travel time was unaffected by distance from the target (as one would expect given that the meteor falls from the sky above the target). It's possible that HoGd actually doesn't have a "travel-time" as such and it is simply an effect of client-server communication time along with a short, fixed-length animation travel-time that makes it appear to have one. In any case, with such a short window to refresh Immolate, lag, "travel time" or being in the middle of a long-ish cast can all make it very easy to fail, and I'd also certainly hope that they fix the issue in some fashion. |
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12/06/10, 10:25 AM
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The Chairmaker
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12/06/10, 10:48 AM
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The Chairmaker
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I've just updated the T11 profiles - I got them past the 2639 haste point, which definitely shows in the destro numbers, but they're still all using the same gear. In fact, the current gear profile is probably pretty optimal for destro, so affliction may catch up once we tweak the gear individually per profile. EDIT: Scratch that, I can't seem to squeeze any more DPS out of any of the profiles at this point. Feel free to prove me wrong
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12/06/10, 11:06 AM
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Von Kaiser
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12/06/10, 11:35 AM
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Great Tiger
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According to the ratings thread that is 20.608% haste, which after ISF and 5% is 45.6% haste. Even if you ignore ISF it isn't a point. You need 10, 30, 50, and 70% haste to gain extra ticks of immolate.. Obviously we are above 10% naked so the other three points are the only necessary. 1.3 = X * 1.15 * 1.05 X = 1.0766 981 Haste Rating 1.5 = X * 1.15 * 1.05 X = 1.2422 3102 Haste Rating 1.7 = X * 1.15 * 1.05 X = 1.4079 5224 Haste Rating |
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12/06/10, 11:42 AM
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The Chairmaker
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12/07/10, 1:28 AM
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The Chairmaker
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12/07/10, 5:36 PM
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Von Kaiser
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Since I see in the simcraft comments that the bis arent final, I've run my own app that determines the best combo of items.
This is the test I've just made: Class: Warlock Hit Cap: (taken from here) 102.446*17 Scaling values: (taken from the first post as a test subject) Warlock_AffDrain_T11_372 Sta=0.0425 Int=3.0638 SP=2.4029 Hit=1.6689 Crit=1.1232 Haste=1.3069 Mastery=1.4186 Gems considered: Brilliant Inferno Ruby, Rigid Ocean Sapphire, Fractured Amberjewel, Quick Amberjewel, Smooth Amberjewel, Veiled Demonseye, Lightning Dream Emerald, Piercing Dream Emerald, Sensei's Dream Emerald, Artful Ember Topaz, Potent Ember Topaz, Reckless Ember Topaz, Chaotic Shadowspirit Diamond Items: basically all epic lvl 85 items equippable by a Warlock Here is the output:  ← Click HereLet me know if you are interested in the bis lists for the other specs. Last edited by Jessamy : 12/09/10 at 7:27 AM. Reason: putting app output in spoiler tags to fix "wall of text" complaint |
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12/08/10, 11:29 AM
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Glass Joe
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12/08/10, 12:35 PM
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Von Kaiser
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Last edited by chiyeuk : 12/08/10 at 1:07 PM. |
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