Yes.

I'm not sure how to code this, but from what I've found doing dummy tests is that if you cast Bane of Doom during Meta, it's best to let the last tick hit before refreshing.

Similarly, if your Meta buff is falling off soon and you have say 15 secs left on Bane of Doom, try to make sure to refresh it before Meta drops.

So yeah, you can actually lose dps by refreshing while Bane of Doom is still ticking sometimes.

The ICD is 2 seconds on each stack.

To model it, I would suggest using something like this in your Simcraft profile:

Action List
Gear List

I don't have one to test yet, but things that might be wrong in this model include:

• Do stacks occur on spell damage rather than cast?
• Does the on-use effect prevent stacking of the spell power buff for its duration or not?
• Is the on-use usable or desirable under Bloodlust/Heroism? (Would have to add a caveat to the action line)

The only thing I'm not sure how to account for is that 2 sec ICD on the stack. Is it as simple as adding a "2cd" line in the equip section?

Anyways, this should give you a rough estimate of its value. Let me know if you can improve this one though.

- The stacks occur on spell damage.
- The effect doesn't prevent new stacks. After using the stacks you get new ones immediately.
- You can use it under the effect of Bloodlust/Heroism.
The last time I used this trinket with the old iSF-version (15% Haste), it stacked with it , but then you cast Incinerate below the limit of 1 sec, depending on your own haste-rating. Let me check this with the actual version of iSF, but I think there is enough space now to use it for burst-situations.

This is true, but I'm trying to figure out why - I'm 100% sure I tested BoD in the affliction profiles when we last updated the mechanics, and it was a loss at that point. Either something changed in 4.0.6, or I somehow made a mistake in my previous testing.

I don't have an affliction spec right now, nor much time on my hands. Could someone with an affliction spec go put CoD on a dummy and tell me how much it ticks for, making sure they're using the gear and spec that's currently in their armory?

CoD tick at: 12159 Crit:24986
Only fel armor on without any procs.

Densar @ Grim Batol - Game - World of Warcraft

in current spec / gear BoD is ticking for 11272 unbuffed

All in 31/7/3 Spec, no Buffs or Armor up (6629SP):
Only BoD: 11843
BoD+Haunt: 14566
BoD+Haunt+3xSE: 14566

Haunt only scales if up on tick, not on application, SE scales neither on tick nor on application :<


DE seems to be working correctly, had a 12697 tick on a mob >25% and a tick of 14221 if applied <=25%, only works if reapplied, not if just ticking <=25%, so nothing new here.

Btw: Glyphed Soul Swap causes BoD to disappear on the inhale target after the exhale. So in glyphed Soul Swap situations probably using BoA would still prove to be a dps increase.

Thanks for the data - it shows we do model BoD correctly, and I guess the loss of 15% haste is enough to explain why BoD is now better than BoA. OP has been updated.

There's a minor DPS increase for the Destruction action list by changing it to this:

The extent of the change here being to attempt to refresh Bane of Doom anywhere within it's last tick if the only thing left to cast is a non-backdraft Incinerate. It was a DPS increase to add the line to both the 359 and 372 destruction profiles, as well as to my own character's profile.

Very few raid encounters have ever been Patchwerk, but it is a very useful scenario to model because trying a strategy out in Simcraft allows you you to make decisions about a situation that occurs for a large proportion of the time: there may be splashable targets, multiple targets, target swaps, or adds or movement phases or whatever in a real encounter, but most of the time in most encounters is spent dpsing down a single target, and if that's not the case then the easiest viable base strategy to adapt is one which spends its time doing single target damage.

Increasing the variables exponentially reduces the the number of encounters for which the Simcraft model is a "good enough" model. The number of factors that affect the "ideal" strategy in a situation with two targets in the hypothetical "2xpatch" scenario is immense, but this is somewhat missing the point. The results from Simcraft are already mis-interpreted, mis-understood and mis-used enough even with the simple and well-understood scenario that it usually models: it provides very useful information, but we must use that information intelligently. The more complex the scenario modelled the more difficult it is to apply that to our actual situation and thus the harder it becomes to correctly use the information it provides.

Simcraft can't and shouldn't tell you what to do in every situation and if anyone is "ignoring huge dps talents because of the model" then they're simply mis-using the tool. It really doesn't matter whether a spec comes out "on top" in Simcraft, what matters is how we use the information it provides to improve our own performance.