SimulationCraft for Warlocks (Cataclysm Edition) - Page 5

• Zakalwe · 12/14/10, 1:54 PM

Originally Posted by Xayide

Just out of curiosity, is there any reason HoG's damage is depicted in the charts as dark green while all other sources of Shadow damage are purple or is it a minor bug?

That's the color code for the shadowflame school. I realize the tooltip says it does shadow damage, but it's marked in the client data as doing shadowflame damage. Checking combat logs would reveal which is true and which is false.

Odeen · 12/14/10, 5:33 PM

Have you guys considered adding effective hps (health generation - lifetaps) to the sim? With the significant increased emphasis on healer mana, that seems like it would be worthwhile to look into to help compare specs of similar dps output. Attempting to add soul link and fel synergy would probably be too fight dependent, but the other talents and fel armor would give a good idea of effective healer burden/benefit.

sneakie · 12/15/10, 7:30 AM

Can somebody explain why is spririt scale factor so big?

• Zakalwe · 12/15/10, 7:33 AM

Originally Posted by sneakie

Can somebody explain why is spririt scale factor so big?

There's no spirit scale factor. SP stands for Spell Power.

Azzbag · 12/15/10, 12:04 PM

Saw this asked before but didn't see a reply, sorry if i missed it. Is the Destro Pre_Raid missing a second Yellow gem to ativate the meta?

Pewpewbubble · 12/15/10, 3:31 PM

Edit - Updated lua file

From the Aff/Drain Sim Craft I added the rotation into Clcinfo addon. Once you download the addon you can put the below file under,
<Warcraft dir>\WTF\<Accont>\<Realm>\<Character>\SavedVariables\clcinfo.lua
LUA Roto File

This won't play the game for you, it just reminds you where you are in your rotation for each creature your targeting.
- It doesn't put Summon Infernal or Soulburn into the rotation but shows them when off CD. So you have to throw them in yourself. But if you soulburn, it will pop up Soulfire in the right priority.

Rotation is not my design, coded it as I saw it in SimCraft, but seems to work really well.

• Zakalwe · 12/17/10, 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by molson

Can someone please explain why this is not worth taking when the sacrifice is literally 0 DPS??

Can you please explain what made you think anyone in this thread was advocating not taking BoH in an actual raiding spec?

dkc48 · 12/17/10, 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by randa

I don't get why simulationcraft gives so much emphasis on haste rating for my character when I am above 579 threshold. Here are my results.

I'm baffled as well. I thought haste currently didn't scale as well as crit due to Imp SF and Backdraft reducing Incinerate cast times below the gcd?

When I reforged and gemmed a few pieces for crit over haste, haste values started going up faster than crit. Any ideas why?

molson · 12/17/10, 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by Zakalwe

Can you please explain what made you think anyone in this thread was advocating not taking BoH in an actual raiding spec?

Other than the spec linked in the OP and posts #32, 33, and 34? While the spec linked on the front page may yield the same results in simcraft regardless of those 2 talent points due to modeling, I found it misleading to not include those talents for anyone checking the front page for the "best" or preferred spec. Apologies if the tone of my previous post came off as rude, just wanted to make sure that I (and any other warlocks that visit the thread) have the most current information.

Trulethal · 12/17/10, 5:15 AM

Originally Posted by Ehvyn

I'm fairly certain the only changes to racials for 4.0.3a are from Trolls and now Goblins.

That said, 585 Spellpower + 5% Increased Pet Damage is safe to say much better then 20% haste on use or 1% static haste.

I have to mention, as a demonology warlock only aiming for the 30% breakpoint on haste, berserking puts me over the 50% marker, which gives an extra 2 ticks on immolate (don't know about corruption) but this is a massive dps increase for demo atleast, i don't think the sp and pet dmg will keep up, I believe pet is max 25% of my dps on a nuke fight, usually 20-25, that's not alot from increased pet damage, and how can you argue 585 SP on use vs 20% haste, especially in low tiers with no possible way to really hit 50% haste?

mephìsto · 12/17/10, 5:22 PM

Am I reading the OP profile correctly, at having 15.5% hit? I see the reforging and gemming in the profile, but is that considered in the summary of the Simcraft profile for Destruction? I understand that int is of greater importance, but haste seems to be far beyond what I had expected. This is to claim the GCD cap ASAP and build ourselves for differing growth in T12 presumably?

Also, I noticed that Crit is still greater than haste in the pre-BiS profile. Why is it that you chose to craft gear around haste when the stat ratio only worsened as the profile gained more haste? Would we have a greater increase to DPS by chasing crit, considering the greater amount of haste buffs now?

I know, a lot of thoughts here and we are still figuring things out and Blizz is still attending to bugs (namely Soul Burn not working 100%) and pet's attacking things they shouldn't, but hit is strange to undervalue and crit seems to have an advantage over haste in all Destruction profiles

Keldarn · 12/17/10, 8:49 PM

I noticed that the Shadowflame leggings in the T11 BiS profiles are listed with heroic=1, but the stats that are behind it are the stats of the non-heroic version.

Dastey · 12/19/10, 8:53 AM

Got a question regarding the destruction profile.

trinket2=gale_of_shadows,heroic=1,stats=285haste,equip=onspelltickdamage_17sp_20stack _15dur

If I use that in my own profile I go around 20900 dps
If I change it to trinket2=gale_of_shadows,heroic=1,stats=285haste_340sp (Which I know is incorrect) it increases with about 700 dps. Does it really procc so slow for destruction or is it some incorrect mechanics?

Korvinas · 12/19/10, 6:04 PM

Regarding the destruction profile best in slot gear.

The wand Theresa's Booklight is marked as heroic=1 but its a zone drop and while there is a data-mined heroic version I don't believe it exists in game. If this is the case would it changed the gear list severely?

my ledge ends · 12/19/10, 8:27 PM

I changed the Pre-Raid and BiS Afflic sim profiles to summon Succubus and use Glyph of Lash of Pain (and changed nothing else) and they added a cumulative 1k DPS to both (they also predictably lowered the value of mastery). I'm curious if this is possibly an error (perhaps in the Mac version of Simcraft) or if Succy plus GoLP is indeed better.