Why would bane be good for Demo if you don't use Shadowbolt anymore? It only reduces cast time for SBolt, Chaos Bolt and Immolate, which as demo you only cast once.

@Jadescorpion : the only thing i could think of if is you're getting spell locked out of fire school (example ragnaros P1 bump + spell lock), then you'd get to spam some shadowbolts, the glyph would have a very very very minor positive effect. Other than that', it's completely useless.

@Krasher : "Immolate, which as demo you only cast once"
Once, on single target fights. You still multidot with immolate, thus this talent would sill have uses.

@netsach: Thats an interesting point I hadn't considered. You would have to weigh the increased damage from Improved Corruption against the benefit of a quicker cast time on Immolate from Bane. I think the competeing factors would be faster target swtiching because of faster Immolate (therefore you get more targets dotted up faster) or higher DPS from Corruption. It might be worth revisiting the AoE sims.

In any case you would have to balance it against the lost single target DPS if you switched from Improved Corruption back to Bane so that is probably a case by case situation as to whether its better for a given fight.

Personally, I'll likely only be Demo for fights were meta/hellfire is going to be useful so the ability to multidot with immolate is largely irrelavant (I think the last time I remember doing that was on Maloriak to avoid pushing him over in P2 to soon). But I'll have to actually do some DS fights to be certain.

I'm assuming what you mean is: Can dragonwrath cause a copy of the cunning of the cruel discharge? If so, I have to object to your premise - I've seen no evidence suggesting that VPLC discharges can be copied by dragonwrath.

Oy, a reminder - this thread is specifically for discussion of Simcraft. General/spec specific discussions should be taken to the appropriate threads, thanks.

Hi everyone.

I've been using simcraft for years now and for the first time, the 4.3.0 version is giving me very-hard-to-believe results.

It's really annoying cause I always use simcraft as my absolute primary source of info.

The problem is, haste scaling looks waaaay too high :

------------------- Int ---------- SP -------- Hit ------ Crit ------ Haste ---- Mastery
Scale Factors--- 3.5124 --- 2.7707 --- 3.0665 --- 1.4452 --- 4.1738 --- 1.4559

Note: [Destruction 3/7/31] [384GS]

I've done 10000 iterations, twice, same results.

It's hard to believe in such results, what do you guys think ? Am I missing something here ?

Tanks for your answer.
Haste is around 2500/2550 on my warlock, maybe that's why.

I have another question : using simcraft 4.3 being still on the 4.22 live won't change anything right ?
I will simcraft again with the 4.3 live update and post ASAP but I don't think it'll change anything.
Maybe I'll try to go full mastery too (as destro should now) and see what changes it will bring to scaling, if that's usefull to anyone

Hello, can we remove the major glyph listing of "Glyph of Shadowbolt" in the demo profile since it no longer uses sbolt?

If you run scale factors with default settings on a destruction warlock with anywhere from 2289 to 2588 haste you will see a very high rating for haste. If you're confused about why this happens, please read the documentation and think it through.

The default duration of simulated fights is an average of 450 seconds, or 7.5 minutes. I would be surprised if there weren't several fights lasting that long, and some (like the final encounter) lasting significantly longer, on Heroic mode. If you're curious how a spec or rotation performs with different fight lengths you can simulate it yourself and find out.