SimulationCraft for Warlocks (Cataclysm Edition) - Page 55

Zimeron · 01/20/12, 4:01 PM

Originally Posted by Thebeave

I noticed simcraft now has an "Ultraxion" setting, which includes incoming raid damage... I'm wondering now if there's a concentration aura style buff that can be toggled? Would be cool to see the differences that aura can make with all the pushback in today's fights.

There isn't currently and it'd require quite some reworking to get it in, so it's not likely to happen soon from a current developer. We are open to patches, until then, hopefully you can run with a shaman or a paladin.

psuman99 · 01/27/12, 2:47 AM

Does Simulationcraft sim out VPLC properly? I sim my warlock and simulationcraft says that the proc on the trinket (normal 384 version) is worth 2.3% of my dps. However, the proc is always greater than 5% of my damage in actually boss fights and usually it is in the 5.5%-6% of my damage range. When I do napkin math to have the proc represent 5.5% of my dps, the 384 VPLC trinket sims out higher than the heroic version of Insignia of the Corrupted Mind. Something simply doesn't seem right here.

My raid group is near a heroic Yor'saj kill and I don't want to pass on heroic ICM but right now the VPLC proc appears to be too valuable to lose. Does VPLC scale somehow with gear and simulationcraft isn't reflecting this?

Moruff · 01/27/12, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by psuman99

Does Simulationcraft sim out VPLC properly? I sim my warlock and simulationcraft says that the proc on the trinket (normal 384 version) is worth 2.3% of my dps. However, the proc is always greater than 5% of my damage in actually boss fights and usually it is in the 5.5%-6% of my damage range. When I do napkin math to have the proc represent 5.5% of my dps, the 384 VPLC trinket sims out higher than the heroic version of Insignia of the Corrupted Mind. Something simply doesn't seem right here.

My raid group is near a heroic Yor'saj kill and I don't want to pass on heroic ICM but right now the VPLC proc appears to be too valuable to lose. Does VPLC scale somehow with gear and simulationcraft isn't reflecting this?

Keep in mind that your 5% dmg from VPLC in WoL or recount is your own dmg excluding your pets' dmg. The output in simulationcraft however includes pet dmg. As demo, and especially on yorsahj where your pets are going to a higher % of you dmg, VPLC will appear to Deal a higher % of your dmg b/c it's still procing at roughly the same rate. In actuality, it's doing roughly the same expected amount. Check your logs from a single target fight and you'll see the difference in %

Krasher · 02/03/12, 3:27 AM

Corruption's DPET seems to increase at 1998 haste in simcraft instead of 1993 for me. Just a small niggle I guess.

• Zakalwe · 02/03/12, 4:06 AM

Originally Posted by Krasher

Corruption's DPET seems to increase at 1998 haste in simcraft instead of 1993 for me. Just a small niggle I guess.

I can't reproduce this.

EDIT: Apparently it was gaining the tick at 1999 instead of 1993 - this was inadvertently broken a couple of releases ago. Fixed in SVN.

mannaroth · 02/03/12, 5:20 AM

Cunning of the Cruel has had its proc chance tripled, but it's damage reduced by two thirds. I guess their intention is for the overall effectiveness of the trinket to remain the same, but has anyone checked that they didn't break it etc?

Narcissi · 02/06/12, 3:34 PM

I have been running alot of trinket simulations today and I noticed something unusual and unexpected with the affliction trinkets. Using the Affliction T13H profile I found that Heroic Insignia of the Corrupted Mind is a ~1100 DPS (49347 vs 48186) increase over Heroic Will of Unbinding. Can someone confirm this or did I miss something?

warlock=Warlock_Affliction_T13H_Insignia
origin="http://www.wowhead.com/profile=33781276"
level=85
race=orc
position=back
role=spell
use_pre_potion=1
professions=tailoring=525/blacksmithing=525
talents=http://www.wowhead.com/talent#warlock-22322200301332132103000000000000000003300000000000000000
glyphs=haunt/corruption/unstable_affliction/life_tap/shadow_bolt
actions=flask,type=draconic_mind
actions+=/food,type=seafood_magnifique_feast
actions+=/fel_armor
actions+=/summon_felhunter
actions+=/dark_intent
actions+=/snapshot_stats
actions+=/blood_fury
actions+=/volcanic_potion,if=buff.bloodlust.react|!in_combat|target.health_pct<=20
actions+=/demon_soul
actions+=/soulburn
actions+=/corruption,if=(!ticking|remains<tick_time)&miss_react
actions+=/unstable_affliction,if=(!ticking|remains<(cast_time+tick_time))&target.time_to_die>=5&miss_react
actions+=/bane_of_doom,if=target.time_to_die>15&!ticking&miss_react
actions+=/haunt
actions+=/summon_doomguard,if=time>10
actions+=/drain_soul,interrupt=1,if=target.health_pct<=25
actions+=/shadowflame
actions+=/soul_fire,if=buff.soulburn.up
actions+=/life_tap,mana_percentage<=35
actions+=/shadow_bolt
actions+=/life_tap,moving=1,if=mana_pct<80&mana_pct<target.health_pct
actions+=/fel_flame,moving=1
actions+=/life_tap,if=mana_pct_nonproc<100
head=hood_of_the_faceless_shroud,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=1336armor_489int_824sta_370haste_280crit,reforge=crit_hit,gems=burning_shadowspirit_50int_30int,enchant=60int_35crit
neck=flowform_choker,heroic=1,ilevel=391,quality=epic,stats=256int_384sta_163haste_133mastery,reforge=mastery_hit,gems=50int_10int
shoulders=mantle_of_the_faceless_shroud,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=1233armor_368int_611sta_211crit_268mastery,reforge=mastery_hit,gems=50int_50int_20int,enchant=50int_25haste
chest=robes_of_the_faceless_shroud,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=1644armor_489int_824sta_307hit_362haste,gems=50int_50int_25int_25haste_30int,enchant=20all
waist=cord_of_the_slain_champion,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=925armor_368int_611sta_247crit_256haste,gems=50int_50int_50int_20int
legs=leggings_of_the_faceless_shroud,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=1439armor_489int_824sta_331mastery_341haste,reforge=mastery_hit,gems=50int_50int_25int_25haste_30int,enchant=95int_55spi
feet=janglespur_jackboots,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=1130armor_368int_611sta_248crit_256haste,reforge=crit_hit,gems=50int_50int_20int,enchant=35mastery
wrists=bracers_of_the_banished,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=719armor_286int_459sta_184mastery_200haste,reforge=mastery_hit,gems=50int_50int_10int,enchant=50int
hands=gloves_of_liquid_smoke,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=416,quality=epic,stats=1059armor_391int_647sta_291haste_238crit,reforge=crit_hit,gems=50int_50int_50int_20int,enchant=50haste
finger1=ring_of_the_riven,heroic=1,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=286int_459sta_189mastery_197haste,reforge=mastery_hit,gems=50int_10int
finger2=infinite_loop,heroic=1,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=286int_459sta_164hit_212crit,reforge=crit_haste,gems=50int_10int
trinket1=insignia_of_the_corrupted_mind,heroic=1,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=517int,equip=ondamage_3278haste_15%_20dur_115cd
trinket2=cunning_of_the_cruel,heroic=1,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=517int,equip=onspelldamage_4774.8+42.32shadow_45%_9cd
back=nanoprecise_cape,ilevel=397,quality=epic,stats=769armor_251int_406sta_173mastery_166hit,reforge=mastery_haste,gems=50int_10int,enchant=lightweave_embroidery
main_hand=dragonwrath_tarecgosas_rest,ilevel=397,quality=legendary,stats=426int_730sta_314hit_271haste_2786sp,gems=50int_50int_50int_30int,enchant=power_torrent,weapon=staff_3.30speed_869min_1304max
ranged=finger_of_zonozz,heroic=1,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=172int_259sta_120mastery_106haste,reforge=mastery_hit
# Gear Summary
# gear_strength=20
# gear_agility=20
# gear_stamina=8128
# gear_intellect=7271
# gear_spirit=76
# gear_spell_power=2786
# gear_hit_rating=1745
# gear_crit_rating=1081
# gear_haste_rating=3091
# gear_mastery_rating=876
# gear_armor=10254
# meta_gem=burning_shadowspirit
# tier13_2pc_caster=1
# tier13_4pc_caster=1
# back=nanoprecise_cape,enchant=lightweave_embroidery
# main_hand=dragonwrath_tarecgosas_rest,weapon=staff_3.30speed_869min_1304max,enchant=power_torrent
use_pre_soulburn=1

Gakpad · 02/06/12, 3:50 PM

Originally Posted by Narcissi

I have been running alot of trinket simulations today and I noticed something unusual and unexpected with the affliction trinkets. Using the Affliction T13H profile I found that Heroic Insignia of the Corrupted Mind is a ~1100 DPS (47965 vs 46871) increase over Heroic Will of Unbinding. Can someone confirm this or did I miss something?

warlock=Warlock_Affliction_T13H_Insignia
origin="http://www.wowhead.com/profile=33781276"
level=85
race=orc
position=back
role=spell
use_pre_potion=1
professions=tailoring=525/blacksmithing=525
talents=http://www.wowhead.com/talent#warlock-22322200301332132103000000000000000003300000000000000000
glyphs=haunt/corruption/unstable_affliction/life_tap/shadow_bolt
actions=flask,type=draconic_mind
actions+=/food,type=seafood_magnifique_feast
actions+=/fel_armor
actions+=/summon_felhunter
actions+=/dark_intent
actions+=/snapshot_stats
actions+=/blood_fury
actions+=/volcanic_potion,if=buff.bloodlust.react|!in_combat|target.health_pct<=20
actions+=/demon_soul
actions+=/soulburn
actions+=/corruption,if=(!ticking|remains<tick_time)&miss_react
actions+=/unstable_affliction,if=(!ticking|remains<(cast_time+tick_time))&target.time_to_die>=5&miss_react
actions+=/bane_of_doom,if=target.time_to_die>15&!ticking&miss_react
actions+=/haunt
actions+=/summon_doomguard,if=time>10
actions+=/drain_soul,interrupt=1,if=target.health_pct<=25
actions+=/shadowflame
actions+=/soul_fire,if=buff.soulburn.up
actions+=/life_tap,mana_percentage<=35
actions+=/shadow_bolt
actions+=/life_tap,moving=1,if=mana_pct<80&mana_pct<target.health_pct
actions+=/fel_flame,moving=1
actions+=/life_tap,if=mana_pct_nonproc<100
head=hood_of_the_faceless_shroud,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=1336armor_489int_824sta_370haste_280crit,reforge=crit_hit,gems=burning_shadowspirit_50int_30int,enchant=60int_35crit
neck=flowform_choker,heroic=1,ilevel=391,quality=epic,stats=256int_384sta_163haste_133mastery,reforge=mastery_hit,gems=50int_10int
shoulders=mantle_of_the_faceless_shroud,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=1233armor_368int_611sta_211crit_268mastery,reforge=mastery_hit,gems=50int_50int_20int,enchant=50int_25haste
chest=robes_of_the_faceless_shroud,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=1644armor_489int_824sta_307hit_362haste,gems=50int_50int_25int_25haste_30int,enchant=20all
waist=cord_of_the_slain_champion,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=925armor_368int_611sta_247crit_256haste,gems=50int_50int_50int_20int
legs=leggings_of_the_faceless_shroud,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=1439armor_489int_824sta_331mastery_341haste,reforge=mastery_hit,gems=50int_50int_25int_25haste_30int,enchant=95int_55spi
feet=janglespur_jackboots,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=1130armor_368int_611sta_248crit_256haste,reforge=crit_hit,gems=50int_50int_20int,enchant=35mastery
wrists=bracers_of_the_banished,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=719armor_286int_459sta_184mastery_200haste,reforge=mastery_hit,gems=50int_50int_10int,enchant=50int
hands=gloves_of_liquid_smoke,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=416,quality=epic,stats=1059armor_391int_647sta_291haste_238crit,reforge=crit_hit,gems=50int_50int_50int_20int,enchant=50haste
finger1=ring_of_the_riven,heroic=1,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=286int_459sta_189mastery_197haste,reforge=mastery_hit,gems=50int_10int
finger2=infinite_loop,heroic=1,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=286int_459sta_164hit_212crit,reforge=crit_haste,gems=50int_10int
trinket1=insignia_of_the_corrupted_mind,heroic=1,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=517int,equip=ondamage_3278haste_15%_20dur_115cd
trinket2=cunning_of_the_cruel,heroic=1,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=517int,equip=onspelldamage_4774.8+42.32shadow_45%_9cd
back=nanoprecise_cape,ilevel=397,quality=epic,stats=769armor_251int_406sta_173mastery_166hit,reforge=mastery_haste,gems=50int_10int,enchant=lightweave_embroidery
main_hand=dragonwrath_tarecgosas_rest,ilevel=397,quality=legendary,stats=426int_730sta_314hit_271haste_2786sp,gems=50int_50int_50int_30int,enchant=power_torrent,weapon=staff_3.30speed_869min_1304max
ranged=finger_of_zonozz,heroic=1,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=172int_259sta_120mastery_106haste,reforge=mastery_hit
# Gear Summary
# gear_strength=20
# gear_agility=20
# gear_stamina=8128
# gear_intellect=7271
# gear_spirit=76
# gear_spell_power=2786
# gear_hit_rating=1745
# gear_crit_rating=1081
# gear_haste_rating=3091
# gear_mastery_rating=876
# gear_armor=10254
# meta_gem=burning_shadowspirit
# tier13_2pc_caster=1
# tier13_4pc_caster=1
# back=nanoprecise_cape,enchant=lightweave_embroidery
# main_hand=dragonwrath_tarecgosas_rest,weapon=staff_3.30speed_869min_1304max,enchant=power_torrent
use_pre_soulburn=1

Replace your current DS line in the action list with

actions+=/drain_soul,interrupt=1,if=target.health_pct<=25,interrupt_if=buff.will_of_unbinding.u p&cooldown.haunt.remains<tick_time&buff.will_of_unbinding.remains<action.haunt.cast_t ime+tick_time+0.5

without that line it will let WoU stacks fall off during execute and it ends up showing as a lot less dps than it actually is if you play correctly sub-25% with it.

Narcissi · 02/06/12, 3:55 PM

Originally Posted by Gakpad

Replace your current DS line in the action list with

actions+=/drain_soul,interrupt=1,if=target.health_pct<=25,interrupt_if=buff.will_of_unbinding.u p&cooldown.haunt.remains<tick_time&buff.will_of_unbinding.remains<action.haunt.cast_t ime+tick_time+0.5

without that line it will let WoU stacks fall off during execute and it ends up showing as a lot less dps than it actually is if you play correctly sub-25% with it.

I have that line present in the Will of Unbinding action list. It serves no purpose and breaks the simulation when used in the Insignia action list, hence why I modified the DS line.

randa · 02/25/12, 1:33 PM

Can someone please explain it to me, why do we need to hard cast SoulFire more then 7sec before ISF buff wears off, as this line in simcraft suggests?

soul_fire,if=buff.improved_soul_fire.remains<(cast_time+travel_time+action.incinerate .cast_time+gcd))&!in_flight

I was never been able to understand this line. And while I am talking about SF, I need to make sure that I read this correctly from simcraft, that SF travels at the speed of 24yards per secons?

Gakpad · 02/27/12, 4:19 PM

Originally Posted by randa

Can someone please explain it to me, why do we need to hard cast SoulFire more then 7sec before ISF buff wears off, as this line in simcraft suggests?

soul_fire,if=buff.improved_soul_fire.remains<(cast_time+travel_time+action.incinerate .cast_time+gcd))&!in_flight

I was never been able to understand this line. And while I am talking about SF, I need to make sure that I read this correctly from simcraft, that SF travels at the speed of 24yards per secons?

As far as I'm able to tell, that just makes sure that the sim doesn't cast Soul Fire so late that there's no window between when the buff falls off and the travel time of soul fire between your cast and when ithe buff is refreshed in which an incinerate can hit the target, resulting in an incinerate that wasn't affected by the ISF buff.

I could be wrong, that's just my interpretation of that line.

• Zakalwe · 02/27/12, 9:30 PM

That line hails from back when ISF was a haste buff and thus more essential. It's quite possible a slightly different set of conditions is more optimal now - feel free to play with it and report back any findings.

Fuqup · 03/13/12, 6:04 PM

HM CoC + HM IotCM trinket combo sims over 500 DPS higher than HM CoC+HM WoU in the BIS Demo profile. 53576 DPS compared to current 53015 DPS

#!./simc 

warlock=Warlock_Demonology_T13H
origin="http://www.wowhead.com/profile=33783873"
level=85
race=orc
position=back
role=spell
use_pre_potion=1
professions=tailoring=525/blacksmithing=525
talents=http://www.wowhead.com/talent#warlock-00300000000000000033212223003102122110320200000000000000
glyphs=metamorphosis/immolate/incinerate/life_tap/shadow_bolt
actions=flask,type=draconic_mind
actions+=/food,type=seafood_magnifique_feast
actions+=/fel_armor
actions+=/summon_felguard,if=!in_combat
actions+=/dark_intent
actions+=/snapshot_stats
actions+=/blood_fury
actions+=/volcanic_potion,if=buff.metamorphosis.up|!in_combat
actions+=/metamorphosis
actions+=/demon_soul
actions+=/summon_doomguard,if=time>10
actions+=/felguard:felstorm
actions+=/soulburn,if=pet.felguard.active&!pet.felguard.dot.felstorm.ticking
actions+=/summon_felhunter,if=!pet.felguard.dot.felstorm.ticking&pet.felguard.active
actions+=/soulburn,if=pet.felhunter.active
actions+=/soul_fire,if=pet.felhunter.active&buff.soulburn.up
actions+=/immolate,if=!ticking&target.time_to_die>=4&miss_react
actions+=/bane_of_doom,if=(!ticking|(buff.metamorphosis.up&remains<45))&target.time_to_die>=15&miss_react
actions+=/corruption,if=(remains<tick_time|!ticking)&target.time_to_die>=6&miss_react
actions+=/shadowflame
actions+=/hand_of_guldan
actions+=/immolation_aura,if=buff.metamorphosis.remains>10
actions+=/incinerate,if=buff.molten_core.react
actions+=/soul_fire,if=buff.decimation.up
actions+=/life_tap,if=mana_pct<=30&buff.bloodlust.down&buff.metamorphosis.down&buff.demon_soul_felguard.down
actions+=/incinerate
actions+=/life_tap,moving=1,if=mana_pct<80&mana_pct<target.health_pct
actions+=/fel_flame,moving=1
actions+=/life_tap,if=mana_pct_nonproc<100
head=hood_of_the_faceless_shroud,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=1336armor_489int_824sta_370haste_280crit,reforge=crit_hit,gems=burning_shadowspirit_50int_30int,enchant=60int_35crit
neck=flowform_choker,heroic=1,ilevel=391,quality=epic,stats=256int_384sta_163haste_133mastery,reforge=haste_hit,gems=50int_10int
shoulders=mantle_of_the_faceless_shroud,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=1233armor_368int_611sta_211crit_268mastery,reforge=crit_hit,gems=50int_40int_20int,enchant=50int_25haste
chest=robes_of_the_faceless_shroud,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=1644armor_489int_824sta_307hit_362haste,reforge=haste_mastery,gems=50int_50int_25int_25mastery_30int,enchant=20all
waist=cord_of_the_slain_champion,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=925armor_368int_611sta_247crit_256haste,reforge=crit_hit,gems=50int_50int_50int_20int
legs=leggings_of_the_faceless_shroud,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=1439armor_489int_824sta_331mastery_341haste,reforge=haste_hit,gems=50int_50int_25int_25mastery_30int,enchant=95int_55spi
feet=janglespur_jackboots,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=1130armor_368int_611sta_248crit_256haste,reforge=crit_hit,gems=50int_50int_20int,enchant=35mastery
wrists=bracers_of_the_banished,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=719armor_286int_459sta_184mastery_200haste,reforge=haste_hit,gems=50int_50int_10int,enchant=50int
hands=gloves_of_liquid_smoke,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=416,quality=epic,stats=1059armor_391int_647sta_291haste_238crit,reforge=crit_mastery,gems=50int_50int_50int_20int,enchant=65mastery
finger1=ring_of_the_riven,heroic=1,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=286int_459sta_189mastery_197haste,reforge=haste_hit,gems=50int_10int
finger2=infinite_loop,heroic=1,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=286int_459sta_164hit_212crit,reforge=crit_mastery,gems=50int_10int
trinket1=insignia_of_the_corrupted_mind,heroic=1,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=517int,equip=ondamage_3278haste_15%_20dur_115cd
trinket2=cunning_of_the_cruel,heroic=1,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=517int,equip=onspelldamage_4774.8+42.32shadow_45%_9cd
back=nanoprecise_cape,ilevel=397,quality=epic,stats=769armor_251int_406sta_173mastery_166hit,gems=50int_10int,enchant=lightweave_embroidery
main_hand=dragonwrath_tarecgosas_rest,ilevel=397,quality=legendary,stats=426int_730sta_314hit_271haste_2786sp,reforge=haste_mastery,gems=50int_50int_50int_30int,enchant=power_torrent,weapon=staff_3.30speed_869min_1304max
ranged=finger_of_zonozz,heroic=1,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=172int_259sta_120mastery_106haste,reforge=haste_hit
# Gear Summary
# gear_strength=20
# gear_agility=20
# gear_stamina=8128
# gear_intellect=7261
# gear_spirit=76
# gear_spell_power=2786
# gear_hit_rating=1745
# gear_crit_rating=899
# gear_haste_rating=2185
# gear_mastery_rating=1979
# gear_armor=10254
# meta_gem=burning_shadowspirit
# tier13_2pc_caster=1
# tier13_4pc_caster=1
# back=nanoprecise_cape,enchant=lightweave_embroidery
# main_hand=dragonwrath_tarecgosas_rest,weapon=staff_3.30speed_869min_1304max,enchant=power_torrent
use_pre_soulburn=1

Gakpad · 04/05/12, 2:20 PM

How can I model using drain life during demon soul for affliction? I can import a warlock with the drain life SPEC fine and use drain life in the rotation, but as soon as I add drain life to a standard affliction spec's rotation simcraft crashes. Any help?

krno · 04/06/12, 8:50 AM

actions+=/drain_life,if=buff.demon_soul_felhunter.up
Add this to your normal Shadow Bolt profile, just one step before "actions+=/shadow_bolt"
If im not totally wrong, this should do it.