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12/02/11, 2:18 AM
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#476
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Glass Joe
Orc Warlock
Sylvanas (EU)
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When can we expect the Demonology thread to be updated? I'm confused at the reasons why Demo no longer uses Shadow Bolt. We just got a new spell effect for shadow bolt.
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12/02/11, 6:02 AM
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#477
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<3 Kitty
Blood Elf Warlock
Saurfang
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Updates the Demonology and Affliction guides are coming. I am working on them tonight, just been a bit busy is all.
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12/03/11, 1:38 PM
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#478
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Glass Joe
Orc Warlock
Sylvanas (EU)
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I'm a bit confused about the 4.3 Demonology stat priorities. Mastery is our strongest stat but we are required to reforge towards the haste cap first?
1) How important is it to reach this haste threshold before going for mastery as compared to just reforging for mastery?
2) Currently the WowReforge tool does not have a formula for haste. Consequently it does not reforge gear towards the haste cap correctly. Is there any other tool or method that can be used to accurately reforge gear correctly towards the hit and haste thresholds?
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12/03/11, 1:45 PM
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#479
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The Chairmaker
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Wowreforge reforges taking haste thresholds into account just fine, as long as you specify the correct haste threshold yourself.
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12/05/11, 6:21 AM
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#480
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Glass Joe
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Goblin Racial Clarification.
All of the respective spec guides have a different set of Haste Caps for Goblins. Considering the racial is only 1% faster spell casting, and not technically haste, eg. it wouldn't give a rogue faster energy regen. Would this still actually affect haste caps?
Just seeking some clarification. Thanks 
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12/05/11, 7:11 AM
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#481
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The Chairmaker
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Originally Posted by nehcnhoj
All of the respective spec guides have a different set of Haste Caps for Goblins. Considering the racial is only 1% faster spell casting, and not technically haste, eg. it wouldn't give a rogue faster energy regen. Would this still actually affect haste caps?
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Yes. For casters, "haste" and "casting speed" are exactly equivalent.
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12/05/11, 6:50 PM
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#482
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Glass Joe
Goblin Warlock
Frostmourne
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Can a single macro be made to soul swap from focus to target? (yes it could be done with modifiers, that isn't the question)
I don't think the syntax supports it, but something like:
/castsequence [@focus] soul swap, [@target] soul swap exhale
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12/06/11, 3:59 AM
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#483
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Glass Joe
Human Warlock
Saurfang (EU)
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"Soulswap" and "soulswap exhale" are two different GCD's, so its not possible, I think 
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12/16/11, 6:41 AM
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#484
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Glass Joe
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Does Bane of Havoc still do damage if the target that has been baned is not targettable? (Not in viewing range) For example if I BoH the tentacle on Blue platform on Madness, will it be taking damage while I'm on the Red platform?
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12/26/11, 10:13 PM
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#485
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Von Kaiser
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What is the most effective way of handling the Regenerative Bloods on Madness of Deathwing? Hellfire doesn't appear to proc the Spellweaving effect (or, perhaps only on the first tick, if that?). Rain of Fire felt alright at first, but I'm getting the impression that Spellweaving only procs on the cast, and not on subsequent ticks. Do we spam cast Rain of Fire? Affliction logs didn't seem to make Seed out to be effective.
Any thoughts?
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12/27/11, 3:51 AM
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#486
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Glass Joe
Human Warlock
Blackmoore (EU)
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Since youre most likely not talking about HC, I guess Rain of Fire is best, since it got the best chance to proc the blue-buff AoE-damage.
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12/27/11, 9:33 PM
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#487
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Glass Joe
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As demo, what is the DPS loss by not pet swapping? I simulated my dps, with and without pet swapping, and it showed a difference of 5.5k dps, can this be accurate or will i have made an error in the profile?
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12/30/11, 8:43 AM
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#488
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Glass Joe
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I know drain life and mind flay don't get extra ticks with increased haste.
So why is drain soul doing so? Because it's a longer channeled spell like divine hymn?
Or should the question be the other way around...
Last edited by notoriousthief : 12/30/11 at 4:54 PM.
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01/04/12, 4:04 PM
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#489
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Glass Joe
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Quick question here, there's a spec for multi dotting as demo, and the single target with incinerate filler, but I don't get how the multi dotting is better ? in the incinerate spec you have 12% damage on corruption, the other have a glyph of corruption, it really does the difference ?
I only play demo because we need the 10% in 10man, I'll make a dual demo/demo spec with the 2 spec and switch between fights i guess...
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01/04/12, 4:30 PM
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#490
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Glass Joe
Tauren Druid
Festung der Stürme (EU)
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As destro, does Shadowflame still deal more damage than incinerate/chaosbolt while Demon Soul is active?
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01/04/12, 8:25 PM
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#491
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Piston Honda
Undead Warlock
Twisting Nether
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I modeled
actions+=/shadowflame,if=!buff.demon_soul_imp.up
and got an intense 0.08% increase which is within the margin of error.
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01/13/12, 6:05 AM
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#492
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Von Kaiser
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Originally Posted by Jo8125
Quick question here, there's a spec for multi dotting as demo, and the single target with incinerate filler, but I don't get how the multi dotting is better ? in the incinerate spec you have 12% damage on corruption, the other have a glyph of corruption, it really does the difference ?
I only play demo because we need the 10% in 10man, I'll make a dual demo/demo spec with the 2 spec and switch between fights i guess...
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The multidotting-friendly part of the 0/31/10 spec comes form the 0.5 sec faster cast time of immolate. The bonus corruption damage of the 3/31/7 is far from capping it.
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01/17/12, 4:53 AM
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#493
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Glass Joe
Undead Warlock
Earthen Ring (EU)
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The topic has been has been addressed a few times but still not 100% clear to me, regarding horde races; does Orc give you a substantial benefit (as demo/affli) due Bloodfury + Command over the other races?
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01/18/12, 1:38 AM
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#494
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Neqael
The topic has been has been addressed a few times but still not 100% clear to me, regarding horde races; does Orc give you a substantial benefit (as demo/affli) due Bloodfury + Command over the other races?
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For Demo, Orc is by far the best because of mastery. As for the other specs, Orc is still better than troll/goblin/others because of the 2 things you mentioned.
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01/19/12, 4:52 PM
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#495
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Glass Joe
Orc Warlock
Sylvanas (EU)
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1) Currently the demonology thread says that pet twisting should only be performed when using Moonwell Chalice. Would it not be beneficial to pet twist with cunning of the cruel and will of unbinding as well (assuming 4piece t13 is equipped) ? The idea would be to finish the soul shards and then resume as normal.
2) Should Demon Soul be synced with Metamorphosis for the increased dps instead of using it on cooldown?
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01/22/12, 5:05 AM
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#496
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Piston Honda
Human Rogue
Tarren Mill (EU)
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Will there be an updated version Dark Intent listings, mostly where it stands on Sub rogues with 2part t12 DoT included. (And if SimCraft is used, it should be noted that it calculates the 2part t12 DoT incorrectly and lists it at only 33% of its regular potential).
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02/02/12, 5:46 PM
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#497
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Glass Joe
Undead Warlock
Earthen Ring (EU)
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Is there another dps simulator except simulationcraft for warlocks? For some reason it has always been bugged in my computer and it won't run. Any other direction eould be appreciated. Thanks.
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02/02/12, 8:36 PM
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#498
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The Chairmaker
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Originally Posted by Fabinas
Is there another dps simulator except simulationcraft for warlocks? For some reason it has always been bugged in my computer and it won't run. Any other direction eould be appreciated. Thanks.
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If it doesn't run on your computer, open an issue where you describe the problem in detail.
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02/05/12, 11:00 AM
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#499
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Glass Joe
Goblin Death Knight
Gorgonnash (EU)
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One question regarding Pettwisting as Demo:
With the 4pc t13, do you hardcast all the pets so you can use the 4pc on cooldown or do you still summon the felhoud with Soulburn?
Thanks in advance.
EDIT: And do you pettwist, even though you don't have Moonwell Chalice?
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02/05/12, 3:14 PM
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#500
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Glass Joe
Worgen Warlock
Destromath
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Originally Posted by rhapso
One question regarding Pettwisting as Demo:
With the 4pc t13, do you hardcast all the pets so you can use the 4pc on cooldown or do you still summon the felhoud with Soulburn?
Thanks in advance.
EDIT: And do you pettwist, even though you don't have Moonwell Chalice?
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I'm fairly certain pet twisting is no longer viable once you get 4t13 in normal circumstances.
Once you get rid of MWC you don't pet swap anymore regardless besides at the start of the fight.
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