I like tellmewhen. I use DoTimer as well, with a pretty nice setup for grouping my warlock DoTs and lining them up into timer bars that I can compare to my short cooldowns (hand of gul'dan, shadowflame), to plan out my rotation. So when I have time to tunnel my timers, bars are great. But when things are hectic, I usually look at my TMW icons for my dots, so I can see more quickly which dots are up and which aren't. I have an icon for my immo, my corr, my bane of (doom|agony), and one of 8% spell dmg from anyone. I find it takes less brainpower to see the immolate icon not lit up than it does to look at all the DoT bars and see that immo isn't one of them. I also make icons for my CDs, and have them light up or shake when they come off CD. My felstorm icon only displays when the unit Jhuufazag exists, so I guess I'll be really confused when I raid with another lock with a felguard with the same name. But it's a handy thing to look at to see if I do or don't have a felguard out currently.

Like I said, having DoT bars that line up with CD and buff timer (metamorphosis, demon soul) bars is really nice for deciding e.g. whether to refresh Doom now, or wait for one more tick and still refresh it during meta, and other rotation optimizations that you can do on easy parts of a fight where you can pay full attention to your rotation. I guess DoTimer will stop working eventually ince I haven't seen any updates to it since 4.0.3, and then I'll need something else, but it's what I still use. Before tidyplates had debuff timers, it was the only way I knew of to get timers for more than target + focus, but now for serious multidotting of mobs that aren't too tall to see health bars, tidy plates is more than fine. (although it will bog down on slower CPUs, so i used to turn off tidyplates) Also, dotimer is buggy with lots of targets, so now that tidyplates is good, I actually limit dotimer to my current target. I still remember how much it sucked when I'd come back to the boss after maloriak black phase and find that my DoT timers weren't displaying any bars, so I'd have to just look at my debuffs under my target portrait.

in the display options part at the bottom of the thread selection page you need to click on the "From the" drop down box and select "beginning". Then click show threads and it'll show up, along with every other thread made in the warlock forums.

Quoting for future generations.

The case of the disappearing thread...Since it comes up so often I'll leave this here instead of deleting it. Note to self: bonus infraction points the next time this question is asked (maybe).

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Whats the best horde race for Warlock? Is there a race DPS comparison anywhere?

Two short questions:

- Are DoTs still snapshotted?
- If so, does the snapshot happen on a SB:SS cast or when it hits the target and the DoTs are actually applied?

Yes they are, and there's no difference between the two because SS doesn't have a travel time.

I believe thats not quite what he asked and do forgive me if Im wrong on this one.

Is the snapshot of dots happening on SS-inhale? Or SS-exhale? Just for the sake of argument say that Dark Soul ran out inbetween the two.

Nope, Zakalwe understood the question right. Thanks for the answer btw.
I somehow had the flying animation of SS in mind (which it had the last time I played Affliction on Sinestra before my break) and thought it had a travel time.

Another one: Are DoTs snapshotted again each time, they get extended (Fel Flame, Void Ray, etc.)? And if a dot gets extended/applied in Meta, does it keep the damage bonus after you leave Meta again?

Yes, and yes, but corruption is not affected by meta.

(These really should go in the simple questions thread, btw)

Since the MOP patches... should Warlocks Manually refresh there dots OR should we be using Fel Flame refresh our dots??