I figure this would be appropriate here since DoT's were mentioned before, and I'm terrible
at figuring out how to use World of Logs! Here goes:

If Corruption is applied to Riplimb with his 100% crit debuff, Corruption will continue to crit
after the debuff has fallen off. Now, my questions is... does this apply to other types of debuffs too?

Example:
Hagara takes 100% more damage for 15 seconds from feedback.
Let's say you cast Corruption 5 seconds before this falls off. Your Corruption, for the sake of the argument,
deals 15k ticks. When the Feedback falls off, will Corruption continue to do 15k like the Riplimb situation,
or will Corruption start ticking for 7.5k? I've been having some discussions with guild members on this.

Thanks!

I suspect that this is a result of there not being a 'crit resistance' stat. The game most likely applies a hidden buff/debuff to modify the caster's crit chance when casting against a target with a +/- crit chance buff. This would explain instances like Facerage because it would be a casttime snapshot like effect.

It would also would explain the on-again off-again bug with Blood DKs crit resistance not working.

I don't think it's so much that crit is a "special" case or that there's some mystery about it: some properties of DoTs and other on-going effects are worked out when they are cast and others are worked out when they tick. It's a general rule of thumb that caster auras (by which I mean buffs and debuffs) are checked at cast time and target auras are checked at tick time, but there's certainly exceptions to this and obviously DoTs are affected by effects on the caster and target that are not auras.

Testing suggests that critical strike chance is worked out at cast time, and that's all there is to it really.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but it just seems to me that either this is not true, or most of the Dragon Soul encounters have "close to perfect conditions". This is just annoying how most of the top positions in World of Logs are taken by demon warlocks. (Except a few encounters that are really heavy on running around, like Warmaster Blackhorn.)

I was talking about the 10N logs when I said that Demo is imbalanced. =D But yeah, now as I took a closer look, even from the 10N logs I think it looks like I was whining. Going to put the range of dps of the top 40 men for every spec from every boss in 10N if anyone is interested. And yeah, sorry for the off topic comments.

Morchok

Demo: 45,000 - 37,000
Destro: 40,000 - 34,000
Affli: 40,000 - 33,000

Zon'ozz

Destro: 77,000 - 56,000
Demo: 71,000 - 55,000
Affli: 63,000 - 53,000

Yor'sahj

Demo: 45,000 - 39,000
Destro: 41,000 - 36,000
Affli: 40,000 - 35,000

Hagara

Demo: 45,000 - 39,000
Destro: 41,000 - 36,000
Affli: 40,000 - 35,000

Ultraxion

Destro: 50,000-38,000
Demo: 46,000-40,000
Affli: 41,000-36,000

Warmaster Blackhorn

Affli: 36,000 - 31,000
Destro: 34,000 - 29,000
Demo: 34,000 - 28,000

Spine of Deathwing

Demo: 41,000 - 25,000
Affli: 40,000 - 28,000
Destro: 36,000 - 26,000

Madness of Deathwing

Affli: 72,000 - 54,000
Destro: 69,000 - 52,000
Demo: 58,000 - 50,000

I was looking at how the UA's haste thresholds worked, and I noticed that Drain Soul has the exact haste thresholds as UA, in case you want to add that for people that don't know that already.

its already in there https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...KPti9oE#gid=12

immolate/UA/DS have same haste thresholds

Whenever i get my Ti'tahk and Insignia procs together, should i re cast every dot for more dps? And with only one of that procs?

Bobtheflea: The trinkets rankings don't take static stats in account (and 517 intel >>> 321 mastery).

Thank you very much for clearing that up. I believe I read that a few months ago, but my memory lost it.
-Cheers

It isn't, but an AoE haste buff and an AoE dps effect are not easily captured in a single-target single-user simulation. Build points spent buffing your raid members and/or killing Forgotten Ones, Corrupted Blood, Hemorrhage Bloods &c don't count.