SimulationCraft for Warlocks (Panda Edition) - Page 34

caliente · 03/05/13, 9:02 PM

the 15% shadowflame buff is not implemented in the 510-12 simcraft PTR option, can somebody double check that ?

Klavarnae · 03/06/13, 1:27 PM

For the demonology stat weights, it shows haste>mastery>crit. But the gear is all reforged to crit, with only 3k ish haste and 11k crit. Am I reading this wrong somehow or is this information wrong/misleading?

Kaizers · 03/06/13, 3:04 PM

Still getting significant dps (4-5k) increases using Vision over Hydra and Soul Swapping when the buff is up, not sure if the bug is fixed with this build but the dps increase wasn't as high so I think it was.

Also as of the first 5.2 release the affliction profile seems to have taken several steps backwards in terms of the apl.

• Zakalwe · 03/06/13, 3:22 PM

Originally Posted by Kaizers

Still getting significant dps (4-5k) increases using Vision over Hydra and Soul Swapping when the buff is up, not sure if the bug is fixed with this build but the dps increase wasn't as high so I think it was.

The bug is fixed with the latest release.

Also as of the first 5.2 release the affliction profile seems to have taken several steps backwards in terms of the apl.

What makes you say this?

Kaizers · 03/06/13, 9:34 PM

Mainly here:
From simc 5.10:

actions+=/soulburn,if=(buff.dark_soul.up|buff.breath_of_the_hydra.up|buff.wushoolays_final_choi ce.react>7)&(dot.agony.ticks_remain<=action.agony.add_ticks%2|dot.corruption.ticks_re main<=action.corruption.add_ticks%2|dot.unstable_affliction.ticks_remain<=action.unst able_affliction.add_ticks%2)&shard_react

Same line simc 5.12:

actions+=/soulburn,if=buff.dark_soul.up&(dot.agony.ticks_remain<=action.agony.add_ticks%2|dot.c orruption.ticks_remain<=action.corruption.add_ticks%2|dot.unstable_affliction.ticks_r emain<=action.unstable_affliction.add_ticks%2)&shard_react

Not sure why checking for trinket buffs was removed but it's making the sim shoot itself in the foot. Readding the older line to the new simcraft brings dps up and adding vision + refreshing whenever perfect aim is up are both pretty substantial.

Is breath of the hydra modeled correctly? If it is it's really weak.

randa · 03/07/13, 2:49 AM

corruption,cycle_targets=1,if=stat.spell_power>spell_power&ticks_remain<add_ticks%2&remains<cooldown.dark_soul.remains&miss_react

So SimC doesn't take into account haste or mastery changes, when it is deciding to reapply dots? If there is tech to know current spell power and spell power of applied dot, then there must be tech for haste, mastery and crit too. All that has to be done now is to implement formulas for dot damage in action priority list.

Here is a code for corruption from well known warlock addon

		damage_bonus 		= (1+crit/100)*(1+(mastery*3.1)/100)
		tick_every 			= 2/(1+(haste/100))

		ticks 				= Round(18/tick_every)
		duration 			= ticks * tick_every
		damage			= (1926+ticks*spd*0.2)*damage_bonus
		dps				= Round(damage/duration)
		dot_damage[172]	= {Round(dps/100)/10, tick_every}

This needs to be translated into SimC.

Viscious · 03/07/13, 1:04 PM

I was under the impression that all non-tier items had a thunderforged quality yet they are not used in the t15h sim (a couple are).

I realize that the non Ra-den thunderforged items are going to be rare and perhaps thats why they are left out?

Scaron · 03/07/13, 1:06 PM

My apologies if this belongs in the "simple Q & A" thread, but it felt like a 'simcrafty' question.

Time spent in the Destro profile seems to suggest 5.1 seconds of waiting time in the Patchwerk-style fight. I'm no simcraft whiz but I'm curious what exactly about the profile is leading the sim to model this as optimal behavior?

Jetjaguar · 03/08/13, 6:45 PM

Originally Posted by Scaron

My apologies if this belongs in the "simple Q & A" thread, but it felt like a 'simcrafty' question.

Time spent in the Destro profile seems to suggest 5.1 seconds of waiting time in the Patchwerk-style fight. I'm no simcraft whiz but I'm curious what exactly about the profile is leading the sim to model this as optimal behavior?

From what I'm seeing, the Destro profile is running out of mana and the waiting time is a result of it waiting for the resource regen in order to continue casting

eredor · 03/09/13, 12:22 PM

Pets & grimoires 5.2 is calculated on 15H for affli & demo but t14h for destro. Notice the dps discrepancy.

Altyera · 03/09/13, 1:11 PM

Originally Posted by eredor

Pets & grimoires 5.2 is calculated on 15H for affli & demo but t14h for destro. Notice the dps discrepancy.

Not only that, but Grimoire of Supremacy is simming as a DPS reduction in that report. Can anyone explain this?

Edit: Nevermind, I answered my own question: Because sims for base pets default to Grimoire of Service, which apparently is marginally better than Supremacy.

Klavarnae · 03/15/13, 3:41 PM

Originally Posted by Klavarnae

For the demonology stat weights, it shows haste>mastery>crit. But the gear is all reforged to crit, with only 3k ish haste and 11k crit. Am I reading this wrong somehow or is this information wrong/misleading?

Anyone have anything relevant to say about this?

turturin · 03/18/13, 4:35 PM

Originally Posted by Klavarnae

Anyone have anything relevant to say about this?

The stat weights don't tell you anything about an absolute stat allocation. What they tell you is a given gear set's dps value per stat at the step value used in the simulation. If the step value is 200, stat X has a value of 4 and stat Y has a value of 3.5, the sim is telling you that you would gain 200(X-Y) = 100 dps by reforging 200 points of Y into X. You would have to do that and resim (or use reforge plots) after doing that reforge in order to determine if continued reforges from Y to X are worth it.

The sim is NOT telling you to reforge all your gear into the stat with the highest weight.

Psych · 03/25/13, 7:55 PM

The default action priority list is not taking into account the mechanics of the Unerring Vision of Lei-Shen trinket. It gave me the false idea that the trinket is not worth it much, barely doing more than my normal version of Light of the Cosmos, but then I thought that it doesn't make any sense and dug further.

I believe it should be doing a Soulburn: Soul Swap when you get the buff, as it's relatively short and quite strong. This probably comes with saving a shard for it and if you don't have any, react by recasting Unstable Affliction and Agony during the proc time (which is 4 seconds).

What I did for testing purposes, and I am sure it's probably not optimal, is adding the following line exactly after Soul Swap:

actions+=/soulburn,if=buff.perfect_aim.up

This gave me additional ~5,000 DPS with the gear I had equipped, making the concerns I had valid. I am using version 520-4. Could you please check it up and make a proper implementation of the corresponding action priorities if the player has the trinket and if what I described is not some sort of personal mistake?

randa · 03/26/13, 3:50 AM

Why doesn't warlock affliction profile use Glyph of Unstable Affliction? Is this profile below GCD with it or what? Even guy that maintains warlocks section of SimC doesn't have it on his warlock.