Arelenda ive read the compendium and i play my WL since BWL :P

The problem with the theorycraft and the hit-rating concept is that its still a subject to the theory of big numbers, which means if i record my data for an infinate amount of time id see the theoretically calculated number of miss% crit% etc,
the truth is that in raiding in any given circumstances this theory becomes obsolete quickly =/ the only other WL that does comparable damage is at 160 hit rating with a tack more spelldmg and less crit. In most encounters i easily do a bit more damage than he does, sure maybe im lucky and im hitting with ISB on the mob most of the time, id have to install shadowseer to check up on that theory. But the interresting thing is how crit% and spelldmg seems more beneficial to me, even though i have 111 hitrating i resist a lot less than my buddy does, sure thats luck based, but even when our resists are on par with each other i do more damage due to stacking more crit.

And im just curious about the math here and the logic, why would i want to get more hitrating if it really doesnt make such a big difference in terms of DPS, i would love to resocket to hit and see how that affects my damage but i want to see the math first =/

Best consumable? as opposed to what? [Destruction Potion]?

Some quick math and working with the sheet showed me that for my gear and spec, [Super Mana Potion] scores about 50% better than a destro pot. The gap becomes smaller when considering Bloodlust/Heroism and high haste rates, but even then mana pots seemed to be better. Note that destro pots combined with Bloodlust/Heroism during any special phase (such as a vulnerability or wild magic or somesuch) can be the better option.

Given the relative low extra dps output from these things (less than 50dps by optimistic estimates), I think that unless you're having major trouble with an enrage, it's safer to skip the potions and have an extra emergency button in the form of a [Super Healing Potion] or [Super Rejuvenation Potion] or a [Mad Alchemist's Potion]. I'll update the compendium when I have some more time.

I can answer this one pretty easily.

If you're looking at damage meters for one fight, they won't be representative. If you take them from an entire raid's worth, it'll contain about half as much trash damage as boss damage, depending on how much time you spent on each. Except on trash, the hit cap is 50ish. Hit is useless against the majority of the mobs you're fighting. If you fought bosses exclusively, the difference would be much more noticeable.

The main premise for stacking hit is that it is the best way to increase your dps against bosses, which is where dps matters. While one could make some valid points against this, this is why people tell you to stack hit.

I don't recommend using ShadowSeer at this point, it needs a rewrite for 2.4, which is not something I'll work on soon. I want 2.4 to stabilize first.

The spreadsheet is using math under optimal conditions, and so it will also give you the optimal number of your DPS. I doesn't take account for lag, movement and the players ability to play his character effectivly.

In addition, if you take your stats and set your hit up from 8% to 16% you will see that you gain 1700DPS instead for 1600DPS. So, even if the spreadsheet is giving you number you can not live up to in a real enviroment it still shows you that over time hit will give more damage. And in the long run average wins.

Read the first post, use the spreadsheet, use the search function. There's a lot of posts by a lot of people asking questions that you can answer yourself just by being nonlazy and reading the top of the thread.

I'm wondering what you're expecting to hear from this forum if you're unwilling to listen to the advice that's being given. Everyone here is going to tell you the same thing: hit is best until you're capped, use the spreadsheet to model what you need next.

The spreadsheet will never tell you exactly down to the last DPS point exactly what you will put out on a given fight, but it's a great way to model a perfect situation. Just because it can't tell you perfectly what you're capable of doesn't make it useless. It's easily the most effective tool for a warlock to model ideal DPS for our specs, and if it gave you an answer you didn't like or didn't want to hear, there isn't very much we can do about it, and we aren't here to validate your assumptions.

I have read and tried all this mixing matching placin and replacing. I was asking for own personal experience what someone would suggest. I guess you can take it as im a perfectionist.

The spreadsheet will tell you exactly what stat is best to next improve your DPS. The first post in this thread has links to the spreadsheet as well as plenty of other good information about gearing.

The spreadsheet could prolly do this for you.

Looking over WWS parses for Brutallus, the best fire and the best shadow performances were about the same, around 2300 dps.

Wow Web Stats

Which specifically are you looking at? I found that on Brut shadow out paced fire. We downed him lastnight and all our locks were shadow bolt 1 affliction.

As to the first one...

Durcyn - 2295 dps as shadow, 34% crit adding on to:

Zuran - 1477 dps Shadow Priest

-and-

Werp - 1934 dps affliction warlock with 25% crit on bolts

If we take the dps difference between the fire lock and the shadow lock and divide it by the combined dps of the shadow dps'ers, shouldnt it show the percent of dps for each which ISB needed to provide to make up the difference? (If I am completely off, I will edit this out)

DPS difference = 20
Combined Shadow = 5706 dps
20/5706 = .003505

So ISB would have needed to make up 0.35% of each of there dps to equal the fire lock. (does that sound correct?)

Edit: as to the second one, there were no shadowlocks in that kill to compare to.

Edit 2: added Werp's crit rate

Edit 3: more of my usual bad math skills.