Personally I have 401 Haste Rating. The fact that their haste rating is that low makes me thinks that they are either way undergeared or are wearing some weird offset kit that I am unfamiliar with. Warlocks don't gem Haste over spelldamage so it is possible that all of their gems are either Purified(Spelldmg and Spirit) or Runed(Spelldmg),

The buffs/modifiers that are on your character when the spell is finished casting (the end of a Shadowbolt, or when CoD is applied) are the coefficient of the spell. However, when the CoD ticks for its actual damage, the debuffs on the target at the time of damage effect it. Say you CoD a fresh, non debuffed target, but you use a trinket to gain an extra 600 SP. Your CoD will have that 600 extra SP when it goes off, + effects like Earth and Moon added to it if the debuff is on the target at time of damage.

I also believe that spells with a "travel time" are modified by debuffs on the target when the spell lands, in contrast to when the spell is finished casting and is released from the caster. This however I cannot confirm myself.

This is not true, the spells damage (and likely, whether or not it crits as well though this is difficult if not impossible to prove) is determined when it leaves your hands. To test it shoot a shadowbolt at a target, then COE the target while the bolt is mid-air. After a couple samples are taken shadowbolt a target with COE up. The difference is pretty apparent.

Deleted. the answer to my question was posted today in the simcraft thread http://elitistjerks.com/f80/t48311-s...2/#post1424297

It is not. The specification is listed in the Globals_T8.simcraft and Globals_T9.simcraft files. You want to use the following:

Hello everyone,

After a 9 month break from wow I've come back to start raiding again. Now I've setup my spreadsheet and stuff and this are the values I get for the next stat:



Now I'm wondering is it really possible that spirit is a better stat for us then haste or crit? This amazed me alot and would change the way I should gem quite alot. I'm using the latest dev version from Maklar.

Hopefully someone can help me with this. (I've setup my gear/talents/glyphs etc up correctly aswell as buffs)

Johneke,

While it varies from build to build, for destruction warlocks, the typical priority is hit until capped - spell power - haste - spirit - crit etc. I would refer you to the warlock raiding gear compendium: Warlock Gear Compendium v3.2

Spirit has become a much more powerful stat with the changes to Fel Armor and Glyph of Life Tap.

I have grown so frustrated over the TPS output as destro lately. It seems there isnt a fight where I cant pull aggro, which isnt a problem unless there are threatwipes etc. Due to always being 90%+ of tankthreat I have started to kinda ignore high threat warning on omen and then f-ups happen.

So I just wonder if this is the situation for all?

Since your armory profile isn't found, but there is only 1 lvl 80 Missaar on the EU armory, I'm assuming that this Missaar is yours (seems to fit the rest of your profile).

Basically, there are two issues here. The first is the presence of an old bug, which I mistakenly thought was fixed months ago, which breaks the mana return calcs for ISL. I have fixed this, and have a new download available. It still shows spirit > haste for you, though not by as much.

The second is the distribution of stats on your gear. Because you have very high crit and haste relative to your spellpower, the benefit of spellpower from spirit is a bit higher than usual. Also, because your spirit is unusually low, you life tap much more often than most warlocks with ISL. Since spirit reduces how often you need to life tap, you get more cast time from that as well.

On top of all of this, remember that this is only strictly applicable to a very straightforward type of fight. If you can LT when moving, or might lose the LT buff, etc., this can affect the value in ways the spreadsheet can't predict.

I don't consider this to be frustrating so much as a mixed blessing. My experience has been that with the 3.1/3.2 patches, there is room for huge disparity between a set of characters running a pug(I assume the standard scenario of a heroic pug group). Yes, I do have major problems with threat, primarily because the damage associated with Conflagrate and Chaos Bolt frequently put me immediately at the top of the threat ladder, and none but the better warrior/druid tanks can hold/regain aggro. In particular, I have found that death knights, except in the extreme case, are entirely unable to maintain aggro when I go on a full rotation.

I attribute this to the fact that I have a fairly well-geared lock and many of the groups I pug are not that well-geared/good.

In raid situations, threat is rarely a problem as long as I don't start casting before the tank gets aggro. If the tank dies, then the mages and locks usually go down shortly thereafter.

Th reason you have those points in Molten Core (other than the fact that there is virtually no other place to put them) is to boost your Immolate, Immolation aura (from Metamorphosis) and Soulfire sub 35%. Do not switch to Incinerate as a deep demo build. I'm guessing you should also start keeping immolate up, since you didn't mention it.