If you could calculate your DoT up times ahead of time and post those when you post that will save me 10 minutes tomorrow

1. I used the values that I had computed at the end of TBC, it is as good of a guess as any right now. I modified my spirit to be 30% of my spell power value. You are correct that there is no good source yet for hard numbers.
2. The trinkets all need work and evaluation. I am not certain of the appropriate formula for that trinket, but I know it's damn good, and I gave it 500 so that it would appear #1 in my sort. I'll edit all the trinkets to be more accurate once better data becomes available.

Simulcraft works just fine for the purpose of hard numbers.


For your spreadsheet you should really point out for what spec your relative stat weightings are based on. They look like they're based on some kind of destro spec, but hit seems rated far too high and haste should probably be higher.

I've been searching through the threads to find an answer to this:

As affliction at what point is it worth replacing 4 piece T6? I'm fairly decent gear at 80 but I still have my Tier 6 helm, belt, boot and bracers. Wondering if these are worth keeping all the way through till Uludar comes out? Or does upgrading all 4 items yield a better DPS increase?

1. Figure out how much dps is coming from Shadowbolt, and the value that 4pc T6 is adding to it
2. Figure out the relative dps of each upgrade, and upgrade when the sum of dps increases from the upgrades are greater than the 4pc bonus.

Was wondering if I could get some help with a SCT that a fellow afflic warlock uses and what settings I would need to highlight or put an emphasis on DS ticks.

The infernal last much shorter than the doomguard. I believe doomguard is 15 mins. now and infernal is about a minute. The doomguard will just disappear if you summon an infernal, just like when the enslavement expires.

Ya, if I were to use an Infernal, it would be only for the last minute of the fight while using the Doomguard for the rest. I was just wondering if it was worth it to drop the Infernal (more DPS?) when there's a minute left in the fight and I already have a Doomguard.

Good to hear it just disappears though. Thanks.

Hey just a couple of questions:

1) Does the afflic spec (56/0/15) that is floating around the forum have particularly high gear requirements to inflict high DPS compared to the hybrid 0/41/30 spec?

2) What, mathematically, should be used against trash to improve DPS using afflic spec? Assuming a 20 second fight, say, obviously corruption is useful given an 18 second spell length - should this and just shadow bolt be used, or can you squeeze more dps out by wasting a 1-sec GCD on CoA as well? The difficulty in calculating this is due to the increasing damage caused by CoA - can anyone link how that works? Similarly, with multiple smaller mobs, when would you stop attacking mobs one-by-one and start Seed of Corruption/Rain of Fire? Some simple numbers in this area would be interesting and perhaps useful.

As an aside, I am currently using Necrosis - are there any other Warlock-specific addons that one would suggest?

I want to correct myself, because I didn't realize that WWS rounds the dps up. It's closer to 0.5 % dps than 1 % dps (25-35 dps). It still feels better than haste for affliction, though.

I tried using a 4 point SE talent while my friend used his 5 point SE talent and it still did not work.

100%. FF and CoR do not stack. The only time you would ever want to cast CoR is if you have no druids in your group, and even then, it's still probably not worth it.

Thanks for the confirmation. Now to see if it got fixed on the PTR server.

So I'm sure there's a obvious answer to this I'm missing, but I can't find it anywhere. I'm a 56/0/15 new warlock as my warrior's OT spot is now a DK. Anyways, our RL wants me to keep up CoE, yet over and over this thread says CoA's the way to go. My question is: with 2 mages, 3 hunters, a elemental shaman and me, regardless of the resistance debuff, does the 13% magic damage allow more total raid DPS then me casting CoA? I'm glyphed and talented into CoA.

The recomendation that you use CoA is based on the assumption that there is a moonkin or an unholy-speced DK somewhere in the raid, because if there is they should be maintaining that debuff. Without that, CoE is worth casting when there is more than one or more other casters in addition to yourself (as a rule of thumb). If you can count on your DK being unholy (or you're willing to respec when he respecs or doesn't show), you can probably un-spec CoA and recover a few spare talent points. Also, for affliction, glyphing CoA is not very good. It nets you a few extra seconds of filler, which is low DPS.

Not very good at all even. When you think about it, that extra four seconds is only a saved CoA every 6 CoAs you cast and since the ticks it adds are middle ticks, it adds no DPS.

Firstly, What level are you?
those stats are awfully low for a 80 even in 70 gear

it's not me, it's a friend of mine.
He's just leveled 1-80

An Armory link would help, probably he should get rep upgrades or try to do high level quests to get his stats up. Im not sure if he would be able to properly perform in a heroic like this and that way badge upgrades are going to be hard to get. Unless his guild/you can carry him

Thanks for supplying the armory link: The World of Warcraft Armory

He should do daily's to get himself gold to boost his trades and enchant himself and perhaps craft the tailoring epics (if he cant get them through raiding/dungeons). That way he also gets his rep up, so he can acquire rep gear thats probably loaded with more stats. Tbh I have better stats wearing level 70 gear than he has now, so he'll have to do some work to get them. But nothing comes for free now does it?

A quick question. As a Meta/Ruin lock, do i use Drain Soul as a filler to SB when the boss is below 25% HP? Or it only applies to Affliction?

I believe only with Affliction. Drain Soul won't do more dmg than SB/Incinerate w/o all the affliction spells, talents, & Haunt up.

I'd say the spec doesnt really matter, Pick any of the Usual ones and go Heroics for better gear.