PSGarak

Improved Imp ups his DPS by the listed 30%. Demonic Power increases it by 1/3 (3/4 casting time is 4/3 damage done). So Demonic Power is a slightly higher damage boost for one less talent point. However, in finite-mana situations, Improved Imp increases the damage done in one mana pool by 30% and Demonic Power increases it by 0 (he casts the same number of firebolts for the same damage, just in a shorter amount of time). Note that JoW in particular does not affect this, as it's a per-attack proc. Demonic Power has a more favorable interaction with Empowered Imp uptime in non-mana-limited situations. I hope that's enough information for you to figure out for your own use.

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Mystearica

Indeed it is, thank you.

 

jsemon2

thanks for the help.

another question, what is the best way to handle trash in an AOE situation?

I seem to notice if I throw a CoA and Cor then rain down on the trash I get a higher dps without DOTS. but I tend to pull aggro more times then not when I do this. also it isn't as effective with 3 or less mobs in a pull. is there a standard frame of mind on these I could be made aware of?

 

Burberri

Don't worry about your DPS on trash. There is no glory in it.

And Dots lower your DPS in general. ie. if you toss up CoA/Cor on a mob your DPS starts 2.5 seconds, before your rain of fire cast. Odds are your CoR/CoA don't even go the full duration thus truncating the damage potential they could do.

 

Livion

When I'm in naxramas and there are aoe trash situations, I just spam seed of corruption on the target.
In general it doesn't make that much threat.

 

DiamondTear

Corruption will now gain the correct damage modifiers for the creature type of the target.

What does this mean?

Everlasting Affliction: Will now calculate correct damage values for Corruption when it is refreshed in all cases.

Will this affect our dps?

 

Faldrath

No one seems to know what the "creature type" thing means, but as for the EA change, I'm assuming it will now correctly take stuff like trinket procs and other factors (like Thaddius' charges) into account when Corr is refreshed, so it should be a good change.

 

Blackren

Corruption's damage wasn't changing in every instance that it should, like Thaddius's charges. It also wasn't proc'ing pandemic on Loatheb as often as it should (now it does). Stuff like that.

 

Akj

I dont see the chaos bolt buff or the backdraft, demonic empathy fixes in the updated patch notes. Can someone on the PTR check if those changes were reverted?

 

oresteez

Here's a question which I hope hasn't been discussed already...I've been reading it since the beginning but it's getting a little long now to go back and reread

I was recently spec'd 0/41/30....at one point I had 2200 spell power with gear and talents..
Last week I respec'd to 56/0/15...now I have 2000 spell power with gear and talents.... This is when wearing the same gear... now I know it should be higher, one reason is because I don't think the character sheet takes Shadow Mastery into consideration..

When people ask you what is your spell power...what do you tell them? Let's say you read the tooltip and say 2K...and they say well we are gonna take this demonology lock, he has 2.2K.... that's not quite fair..and someone who doesn't know the warlock class is not going to know any better...

What about when people ask you 'What's your DPS?'

We all know we can give so many different answers....just because you hit 5K dps on patchwerk last night doesn't mean you hit 5k on every fight right?

Just because you can only hit 2K on a target dummy as affliction, doesn't mean you only do 2k DPS right? (I believe some spells do not register correctly because the dummy only has 1 hp).

What's the trend with warlocks...or do you just answer whatever way makes you look best ?
what's the most accurate way to answer..

 

Sidewalk

Althought SoC is the way to go with trash pulls in Naxx, threat is threat and the better geared you get, the more damage, and threat, your going to create.

I am forever "pulling threat" on packs in Naxx25 and my tanks are extremely well geared. And it's not initial "OMG n00bz wait b4 AoE!" threat, it's end of the pack threat due to sheer damage. We also tend to pull 2 or three packs at a time and it might just be the times when I get double proc's (Curse / Sundial), but hey ... it feels good to actually make the tanks blow their taunts once in a while!

Question: What's your SP?

Answer 2: Hit 5K* dps on PW last night.
*Insert real number here.

If they don't know what that means, then it's probably YOU that should be asking THEM what their SP is :-p

Honestly, I don't recall the last time I actually gave a solid number on my SP.

 

deneve

I was wondering why some well geared affliction locks prefer the 21crit rating/3% increased crit dmg meta gem for the head slot over a meta with spellpower, is there an explanation or is it something like the lack of gems for other combinations?

 

Lominen

Think people are just into the habbit from TBC tbh. The requirements for 25SP/2%int or 2% lesser Threat are easier to obtain than the 2 blue ones. I use the threat reduction one personally.

 

rathgar

Whats the best way to use Drain Soul sub 25%? Use it purely as filler in between refreshing dots (dots get priority)? or is there another method that yields more dps?

i see allot of WWS reports where people do high dps and to no surprise have allot more drain soul ticks then i do...are they prioritizing DS ticks over refreshing dots on time?

 

Valyrian

So CoR, who uses it and why?

 

oresteez

Well, traditionally it was used to buff the melee damage.

I'd imagine you can still use it, if the raid is heavy on melee, and you are in a good mood, and don't mind sacrificing your own damage...

I haven't paid much attention to it in the expansion though..it would be interesting to see if anyone has a different answer...

 

duhwhat

Improved Faerie Fire serves the same purpose without the AP buff. I'm not sure why any warlock would be casting this if there's a boomkin in the raid and is keeping up FF anyway.

 

oresteez

Sounds like we can move it from the "usually useless" pile to the "almost always useless" pile then....

Here's a better question..does anyone actually use Curse of Weakness and even better, do they put talents into it?

 

FalseMyrmidon

I use it when I solo elites with either a Felguard or Voidwalker tanking. It helps with aggro issues (they're shitty at holding threat) since it's a low to no aggro curse and decreases the amount of healing I need to do some.

That's literally the only time I use it.

 

Livion

I have tried some different specs before I went affliction, Now i'm just waiting for the head in malygos to drop.
Then I will have meta gem with + spellpower and 2 % less threat.

When i'm in nax I really don't have a lot of aggro problems when I'm spamming seed of corruption on trash packs.
This way my damage on thrash is still good. On great packs I can easily get 12k dps

 

SecondrateSaint

Not really sure where to ask for this, but there was no update on its main page, and I assume that those that would work on it would be reading here.

Is there any ETA on a Warlock module for Rawr?

EDIT: Completely missed the Rawr thread. Sorry!

 

CJTheran

I was in Naxx25 last night on my Hunter, and was watching the Warlocks do their damndest to stay at the bottom of the Recount DPS chart. I noticed that all of them, who were all affliction, were using Rain of Fire for AOE purposes. They cast not a single seed throughout the instance. Throughout TBC, I remembered 'locks reigning Kings of AOE because Seed was so good, and never touching Rain because it wasn't. While I know times had changed, I did not think Seed had, and I remembered other 'locks that I know to do well to use Seed. I asked why no one was seeding, and was given a response of "It's better because all the mobs are dead before Seed can proc" and "It's better because it says on EJ that it's better". Looking at the tool tips for the spells, it looks to me that Seed is strictly more useful, but I could be wrong, as I am a simple Hunter and raid by binding steady shot to everything and face rolling.

My question to you: Is Rain strictly superior to Seed, or are there times when one is appropriate and the other not, or are these Warlocks incorrect?

 

Splot

Seed still has the highest AoE damage cap, but it has to go off. If the mobs are going off before they get 3 seeds explode then the locks will be behind on DPS than starting with Raid of Fire (RoF) on a tight group of tanked mobs. If they are destruction and using RoF then that makes sense as they buff fire damage.

Personally, if the mobs are dying slowly, I seed, if they are dying quickly I use RoF. RoF also has an advantage in that you stop generating threat if you continually pull mobs out due to threat. RoF is more mana efficient.

 

CJTheran

Thankee very much.

 

Talimar

Rain is undoubtedly much better than it used to be, but seeding still has it's use. Personally I prefer to use it when there's 5 or more mobs. The more mobs, the better seed performs. Most Naxx pulls are 2/4 if I'm not mistaken. It certainly isn't like Hyjal.
RoF is also safer threat-wise.