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Old 02/20/09, 3:39 PM   #851
duhwhat
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Undead Warlock
 
Area 52
Are there differences in buffs that we should be asking for the imp, felhunter, succubus, felguard, and doomguard?

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Old 02/20/09, 6:57 PM   #852
Kanno
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Human Warlock
 
Dark Iron
Does Quartz (the addon) still give you a dps boost or did that change when they fixed the /stopcasting stuff? As affliction, if it matters.

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Old 02/20/09, 10:41 PM   #853
turturin
Don Flamenco
 
Orc Warlock
 
Destromath
Originally Posted by duhwhat View Post
Are there differences in buffs that we should be asking for the imp, felhunter, succubus, felguard, and doomguard?
Only in pally buffs. And pallypower addon will assign your melee pets based on warrior buffs and caster pets based on your buffs, so it shouldn't be a worry.

You might have to ask for wisdom for your melee pets when there are more than 2 pallies, as the pally in charge may not realize that pets will get whatever the warrior is given and wisdom is clearly not useful for the warriors themselves.

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Old 02/21/09, 11:23 PM   #854
Lominen
Von Kaiser
 
Orc Warlock
 
Kazzak (EU)
Originally Posted by turturin View Post
Only in pally buffs. And pallypower addon will assign your melee pets based on warrior buffs and caster pets based on your buffs, so it shouldn't be a worry.

You might have to ask for wisdom for your melee pets when there are more than 2 pallies, as the pally in charge may not realize that pets will get whatever the warrior is given and wisdom is clearly not useful for the warriors themselves.
Have you actually ever seen your pet go oom in a raid setting without wisdom? I know I haven't at least.

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Old 02/22/09, 11:25 AM   #855
Jaynen
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Orc Warlock
 
Grizzly Hills
Simple question I think but I am unsure of the answer. Been doing heroics/10man as a Meta/Ruin spec because I don't even have a lot of heroic gear yet. Felguard is definitely nice for farming and doing dailies etc also but when can I switch to affliction and see an increase in dps to offset the loss of SP and pet damage?

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Old 02/22/09, 12:28 PM   #856
exzarkun
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Warlock
 
Malfurion
Originally Posted by Jaynen View Post
Simple question I think but I am unsure of the answer. Been doing heroics/10man as a Meta/Ruin spec because I don't even have a lot of heroic gear yet. Felguard is definitely nice for farming and doing dailies etc also but when can I switch to affliction and see an increase in dps to offset the loss of SP and pet damage?
I was doing more DPS as soon as I switched to affliction after a week or so of heroics, even with the growing pains of the vastly more complicated aff cycle (I had been destro since release). I think I had around 1800 or so SP self buffed at the time, can't recall the particulars as far as haste/crit. There will be a little pucker factor when you see how much crit and SP you lose as soon as you switch, but it'll pass soon as you settle in.

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Old 02/22/09, 1:40 PM   #857
Jaynen
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Orc Warlock
 
Grizzly Hills
I have 1800 or so now but thats with the Felguard =/ and the improved fel armor

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Old 02/24/09, 10:55 PM   #858
blecap
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Absinte
Undead Priest
 
Thaurissan
I'm new to destro dps, I searched the forum on rotation 3.0.8 with the Glyph of Conflag no longer consume Immolate etc, can't really find my ans though. I've some question that be the Basic startup rotation, into the fight ( What i should be casting during bloodlust,conflag.) and when do i fit in soulfire?

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Old 02/25/09, 12:48 AM   #859
calderstrake
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Exodar
@blecap

Your English is a bit confusing, however I found all the answers to your questions in The Mage Equivalent: The Destruction Warlock thread, in the very first post.

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Old 02/25/09, 2:02 AM   #860
husec
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Arygos (EU)
Im a little baffled as to how Drain Soul works when using it when the mob is below 25%, im currently using Dotimer and DrainSoulTimer.

"Drain Soul (same as Shadow Bolt when the target is below 25% hp)"

So basically instead of casting Sb you just use Drain Soul and reaplly all dots as soon as they finish?

Does Drain Soul eat any of your dots or do anything to them in any way?

"A good way is to just reapply dots and haunt as soon as there is more than one of them fading off."

So lets say im using Drainsoul and Haunt is about to fade off but my other spells have 8 seconds left, do i stop and reapply Haunt or continue to Drainsoul? I was thinking of just reapplying the dot as soon as it is fading eithen if im using Drainsoul.

Im very very new to Affliction and how it works so ive read both the threads on here many times.

Thanks.

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Old 02/25/09, 2:21 AM   #861
calderstrake
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Exodar
Originally Posted by husec View Post
So lets say im using Drainsoul and Haunt is about to fade off but my other spells have 8 seconds left, do i stop and reapply Haunt or continue to Drainsoul? I was thinking of just reapplying the dot as soon as it is fading eithen if im using Drainsoul.
In this case, you would reapply Haunt and then use Drain Soul again until the next dot falls off. However, if your rotation is working properly, you should be reapplying Haunt and UA at the same time. Here is a typical scenario for <25% dps:

You notice boss goes to 25%, you immediately check dots for up-time remaining--> If any are <= 2sec, reapply; if not cast DS
-Haunt/SE has 3sec remaining (UA maybe 4 sec) --> recast Haunt then UA
-CoA dropps off --> recast
-Siphon Life drops off --> recast

It is only a minor dps increase to keep re-applying Immolate, so leaving it off may not be noticeable. I usually don't use it <25%.

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Old 02/26/09, 1:16 AM   #862
Magi
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Warlock
 
Emerald Dream
41/30 questions...

Metagem: I use +25 SD / minor run -- I like the run! (obviously). Is Chaotic Skyflare unquestionably better?
Pet: Does Doomguard beat Felguard?

Thanks.

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Old 02/26/09, 8:05 AM   #863
feartrain
Glass Joe
 
Undead Warlock
 
Gurubashi
Originally Posted by Magi View Post
Pet: Does Doomguard beat Felguard?
Not at all.

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Old 02/26/09, 1:46 PM   #864
Holo
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Undead Mage
 
Burning Steppes (EU)
Demonic pact

Edit: Nvm, delete this.

Last edited by Holo : 02/26/09 at 2:22 PM. Reason: Typo

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Old 02/26/09, 10:06 PM   #865
vaestmanaeyjar
Von Kaiser
 
Blood Elf Warlock
 
Mazrigos (EU)
Quick question as I don't have the opportunity to test this ingame: is it worth it not to cast Immolate with a conflagrate (glyphed)build, provided another warlock in the raid has one on the boss ?
Was thinking of this to achieve a SB/Conf/Inci/Inci etc rotation using the Immolate of the second warlock of the raid who is Affli specced.
Incidentally yes I'm thinking of a 3.1 Demonology build using SB, conflag, Incinerate/soulfire (depending on whether casting/not casting Immolate returns)

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Old 02/27/09, 4:58 AM   #866
Orgath
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Orc Warlock
 
Kargath (EU)
Conflag only works on your own Immolate, despite the default UI's Cooldown Timer showing the spell available without.

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Old 02/27/09, 7:25 AM   #867
Inch
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Gnome Warlock
 
Runetotem (EU)
Hi all, I'm 0/53/18 meta/ruin.

Is it better to use the Firestone or the Spellstone in raid? For what I know, the Spellstone should be better due to the fact that crit scale worste than haste.

Am I right?

Last edited by Inch : 02/27/09 at 7:26 AM. Reason: grammar

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Old 02/27/09, 9:51 AM   #868
teneran
Von Kaiser
 
Tauren Druid
 
Skullcrusher
Originally Posted by husec View Post
Im a little baffled as to how Drain Soul works when using it when the mob is below 25%, im currently using Dotimer and DrainSoulTimer.

"Drain Soul (same as Shadow Bolt when the target is below 25% hp)"

So basically instead of casting Sb you just use Drain Soul and reaplly all dots as soon as they finish?

Does Drain Soul eat any of your dots or do anything to them in any way?

"A good way is to just reapply dots and haunt as soon as there is more than one of them fading off."

So lets say im using Drainsoul and Haunt is about to fade off but my other spells have 8 seconds left, do i stop and reapply Haunt or continue to Drainsoul? I was thinking of just reapplying the dot as soon as it is fading eithen if im using Drainsoul.

Im very very new to Affliction and how it works so ive read both the threads on here many times.

Thanks.
Yes, cast drain soul when the boss is at or below 25%.

Drain soul won't affect any dots in any way. Since you'll have soul siphon talented, you'll want to maintain all your dots on the target though.

Yes, always reapply haunt. You should strive for 100% haunt uptime. Don't clip your dots otherwise, that's what the drainsoultimer addon is for. Listen for the DS ticks, and just reapply dots after each DS tick as needed. In other words, treat DS as a series of shadow bolts.

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Old 02/27/09, 2:36 PM   #869
Spawner
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Undead Warlock
 
Haomarush (EU)
In a Meta/Ruin spec what potion is best to use

Potion of Wild Magic - Item - World of Warcraft

OR

Potion of Speed - Item - World of Warcraft

I know that depends on gear but have anyone calculated the raw dps u gain with each of these?

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Old 02/28/09, 9:16 PM   #870
Veliaf
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Human Warlock
 
Darkspear (EU)
Originally Posted by Spawner View Post
In a Meta/Ruin spec what potion is best to use

Potion of Wild Magic - Item - World of Warcraft

OR

Potion of Speed - Item - World of Warcraft

I know that depends on gear but have anyone calculated the raw dps u gain with each of these?
I should imagine, though I've not calculated it properly and it may be necessary to, that the former potion would be better. It depends what you cast, due to the SP coeff, but the SP and crit should provide more dps than the extra haste, as haste scales pretty badly in relation to the other two, and 9% more crit is a fair amount.

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Old 03/02/09, 12:28 AM   #871
Emolate
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Goblin Warlock
 
Mal'Ganis
Originally Posted by Veliaf View Post
I should imagine, though I've not calculated it properly and it may be necessary to, that the former potion would be better. It depends what you cast, due to the SP coeff, but the SP and crit should provide more dps than the extra haste, as haste scales pretty badly in relation to the other two, and 9% more crit is a fair amount.
This is an easy one to answer just by using the Spreadsheet.

In my Meta/Ruin spec with my gear, Potion of Speed is worth 17.39 dps, and Potion of Wild Magic is worth 13.82.

Haste is much better than Crit in just about every way in terms of individual DPS.

Originally Posted by Zeln View Post
I'm pretty sure the only reason you're on this planet is the phone rang and startled your dad.

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Old 03/02/09, 1:49 AM   #872
Heeno
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Gnome Warlock
 
Alterac Mountains
Remember that the spreadsheet cannot compute that you would use the potion of wild magic during heroism, amplifying the benefit of it. The potion of speed also may cause you to become soft haste-capped if you have enough passive haste on your gear. It all depends on the individual's gear though.

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Old 03/02/09, 8:29 AM   #873
soodenim
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Warlock
 
Ravenholdt (EU)
Hello all,

Simple question, with the new dual talent specs allowed in 3.1 I am looking at having a PVE and PVP spec.

I have never done that much PVP in the past.

With this in mind I have been following the 3.1 PVE max DPS specs closely to decide my PVE spec.

I can't seem to find a thread on PVP specs though, could you please either help recommend a PVP build for 3.1 or point me in the direction of a good PVP thread?

many thanks

J

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Old 03/02/09, 10:59 AM   #874
Pentamorfi
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Human Warlock
 
Ravencrest (EU)
Apologies if this have been answered before, but does someone know how to set MSBT up to play a sound each time Drain Soul ticks?

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Old 03/02/09, 11:14 AM   #875
duhwhat
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Undead Warlock
 
Area 52
Originally Posted by Pentamorfi View Post
Apologies if this have been answered before, but does someone know how to set MSBT up to play a sound each time Drain Soul ticks?
Affliction Raiding Rotations/Guide I use the auction house bell.

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