krosz

The warlock, assuming affliction or deep demonology.

 

chargerrich

I have read almost everything in the warlock forums (good stuff, learned a lot about hit cap and spec's) and while my DPS has improved after taking some of the advice i read, I still seem to get outpaced by similarly geared locks in my guild.

I hope no one looks at this post as lazy as I have researched a lot but still feel like I could use some expert opinion.

I have to be missing something and am hoping some of the experts here can assist.

0/41/30 spec
Rotation is mindnumbingly simple:
CoA, Cor, Imm, spam Incinerate, demonic empower for FG at CD, lifetap as needed (have glyph)
Never clip my dots
Using Imm, FG and LT glyphs
My gear is 100% Nax 10/25 with two Uld 10 pieces
Always use spellstone
Always raid with boomkin/SP

Hit 368ish
SP 2384
Haste 346
Crit 25%

Yet I am lucky to pull 3.2/3.3k
I have also run 0/13/58 and 0/40/31 with similar numbers

On KT last night I pulled 3,284 dps and was 14th in our raid

What am I missing?

 

nuibank

Your armory only shows you with 306 hit.
You have no head enchant / leg enchant / ring enchant / shoulder enchant / lightweave cloak enchant.
Your Belt and legs have 18 stamina gems and all of your SP gems are 14 SP instead of 19 SP.

You need to spend a little bit more time on your character's gemming and enchanting. Unless you post a log of a fight so we can tell if you're doing anything wrong, can't really give you much more help.

 

Extigmata

To start,
- low quality gems,
- mana regen items,
- low level enchants or no enchant's at all,
- low spd.
- Low Hit

This info according to your gear in the armory

All Warlocks have the same exact build has you do ?
For instance, you have very low haste, and demonic empower it's also a waist for that spec in particular.
At sub 35% are you positioning your self at max distance, for the weaving of SF, and leaving CORR out of the rotation ?
I am sorry, but I doubt you have read much here, else you wouldn't be asking or gearing your warlock like that.

 

Eglan

Well, let's summarize for a bit. Your warlock lacks:
1- hit (up to 368 cap consider 1 hit point on your gear will return more DPS than the rest of gems)
2- Enchants: If you can't afford enchanting all your equipment, try at least, enchant everything with the medium-quality enchants while you farm like hell for the better enchants/tailoring embroidery.
3- Gems:
18 stamina is a bad gem -for PvE, PvP too; you should always aim for the rare gems-. If we consider your leggings (e.g) you are giving away 19 SP and receiving 18 stamina -useless in pve; trash, dump it; and 6 haste. Lose/lose situation.
14 spellpower. Drop in a load of 19 SP gems onto them.
I also saw you socketed 16 haste on 1-2 items. Seeing you are under the hit cap, I'd recommend stacking hit until 368. You can even overcap it, but being under the cap is way worse.
For the meta bonus; use 2x Purified twilight opal (9 SP / 8 spi) and try to place them where they can give you most of socket bonus (the +6 hit on your legs will be better than the 8 spi on your helm if you still under the cap, BUT the +5 SP on your belt would be even better, and, as a sidenote; get an eternal belt buckle and add to your belt and drop a 19 SP / 16hit if under the hit cap still)

Edit: sorry for the redundancy, forgot reply window opened for a while and didn't refresh.

 

Lephturn

That is just backwards. The Warlock spec that loses the least personal DPS to put up CoE is Destruction. Affliction would lose a great deal of personal DPS having spent points increasing damage and buffing DoTs, and any Demonology spec would lose DPS due to being unable to use CoA to proc Molten Core. The spec of Warlock that loses the least personal DPS is Destruction, but some math will be needed to figure out if a mage loses more or less than a Warlock.

 

nuibank

That post was not about CoE, it was about Improved Shadowbolt. Given that Affliction locks and Demonology locks provide that buff in their natural rotation, his response was correct.

 

chargerrich

Thanks for all the replies, I knew the stamina gems were far from ideal but i had them in the bank and could not find a usable blue socket gem so i got socket bonus. I plan to max my enchanting this weekend to get better enchants.

For the record I did indeed read almost every post in this thread and the pve discussion and spreadsheet threads but in any event, sorry if some of my issues were obvious.

Take care all.

 

chargerrich

What blue socket gems are recommended for a raid warlock? Would you forgoe socket or even meta bonuses to just stack sp or hit as appropriate?

 

krosz

Gem qualities have been discussed quite a lot. Dont skip the meta. And remember that, for example, green and violet gems also count as blue.

 

Zultan

For a Blue socket if you want the socket bonus use Purified Twilight Opal, if you don't use Runed Scarlet Ruby. It's up to you whether or not to go for the socket bonus, if it's something like stam or int it isn't worth it go with straight sp.

 

Eglan

But don't forget, most socket bonuses simply suck, a "+3 crit" from the gown of the spellweaver, to put an example, isn't worth the damage you give by not socketing a 19 SP gem. Try and get the 2 best socket bonuses to put your 2x purple gems in them and go SP for almost all the rest of gems (if you got hitcapped).
I also noticed you replaced some of your gems, and I'm wondering if you can read the word "Purified" before "twilight opal" because you are, again, losing dps. And still under the hit cap. Socket +16 hit until 368, that's your priority. And enchant your gear.

 

Shaby

Is there any Ulduar "gear list" around? Ulduar offers so many different items I really have trouble keeping track, is there any BiS gear list?

Thanks

 

Anthraxx

Ulduar loot - WoWWiki - Your guide to the World of Warcraft

Here is a nice list.

 

krilz

No BiS-list yet AFAIK, however you can puzzle together your own gear at chardev.org if you'd like (although not ALL gear is listed; still missing some hard modes, most notably Algalon)

 

Turboteckel

Does anyone know the worth of the 2pt7 bonus vs the 4pt8 bonus for 13/58?

I switched out my [Valorous Plagueheart Leggings] for the [Conqueror's Deathbringer Leggings] yesterday.

Losing 55 crit and the the 2pt7 setbonus replacing it with about 50sp (if you count the spirit on the legs) and the 4pt8 bonus.

Currently only have 19.18% crit selfbuffed (with firestone) and only 356 haste but still greatly outperforming Haunt/Ruin in raids.

 

Ducka

I have a question regarding the value of two piece t8. I currently use the 25 man helm, and have the 25 man gloves sitting in my bags because they're not better than what I currently use. I was thinking that it might be better to use the gloves to get the 2 piece, is this correct? To show you what I would be replacing, this is what I'm usingHandwraps of Plentiful Recovery and obviously i would be replacing them with Handwraps of Plentiful Recovery . So I would gain a little bit of spellpower, but lose a good amount of haste. Is this worth it for the 2piece?

Oh yeah, im 13/58 by the way.

 

Menestheus

Well if you think about it for a second:
The 2pcT7 bonus is a 10% crit rate on a proc and the 4pcT8 is 5% crit rate all the time on the same thing. So, unless the T7 bonus is up for more than 50% of your Incinerates then the T8 bonus is better. Running a quick simulationcraft shows that the T7 bonus has an uptime of 11.1% for me in my gear. This makes sense because you are only using Immolate which has a chance to proc it and you are casting an awful lot of Incinerates compared to the number of Immolate ticks.

So the 4pcT8 bonus is better.

 

Weerea

I'm not sure how to work simcraft so I have to ask - for the 0/13/58 destro spec - is the DG a net dps gain? Obviously the DG does more dps than the imp even with all the imp talents you take, but I was wondering about the dps loss from not having empowered imp procs.

 

Menestheus

It's approximately a 1.25% overall DPS increase to use the DG instead of the Imp. This is assuming the DG is able to stay attacking the target the entire time (not the case in a good deal of Ulduar fights).

 

silmarieni

Coming patch 3.1.3:
Chaos Bolt: This spell no longer ignores damage reduction effects of the target.

Is this a PVP nerf only or will it affect PVE?

 

Shaby

I believe this is mostly a PVP nerf (rogues and CloS whine), but it will also affect PVE since some bosses have certain abilities/resistances.

 

pfooti

It's a PvP nerf at this point. It doesn't change CB's relationship to resist (mark of the wild) and absorb (PW:S) mechanics, only its relationship to reduction (soul link, molten armor) mechanics. CB will do full damage against a priest under the effects of pain suppression in 3.1.2, but probably not in 3.1.3. At least that's what it's looking like. At least it should still work with Anti-Magic shell.

 

Diogenetic

There is some clarification via GC towards the bottom of this MMOChamp post. Pvp only, aside from possibly some very specific boss
abilities, but I can't think of any in Uld offhand that it would impact.

 

emcee

I'm trying to find out why haste is so much more valued in 0/13/58 spec versus 3/13/55 when the only difference is imp soul leech, also why life tap glyph is used in the 3/13/55 but not the 0/13/58. I've tried searching for stuff and haven't found anything related, or I'm blind. There are a few significant differences in the two specs for being so similar, and I was just wondering why.