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Old 02/16/09, 12:23 AM   #811
Nachtschaduw
Von Kaiser
 
Undead Warlock
 
Draenor (EU)
On mmo-champ forum someone mentioned they "fixed" Sapphiron's frost aura interaction with pets. Can anyone confirm pets are not taking damage anymore?

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Old 02/16/09, 1:56 AM   #812
Burberri
Piston Honda
 
Orc Warlock
 
<G2>
Silvermoon
My imp lived last night. That was a first. I didn't even pretend to duck him behind the ice blocks for phase 2.

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Old 02/16/09, 3:12 AM   #813
Damphair
Von Kaiser
 
Undead Warlock
 
Uldaman
I checked the patch notes for Doomguard summoning, but I am still a bit confused.

As far as I can tell, the two ways to summon Doomguard is to either use the Ritual of Doom spell, which requires participants, or if your Curse of Doom spell ends up killing a mob that gives xp or honor.

So how are people bringing out the Doomguard in the middle of a boss fight? Or do you get the Doomguard out first before the fight starts? I found a post on wowhead saying that it comes enslaved for 15 min despite what the tooltip says. Is that true? Can you still do Darkpact with the Doomguard out?

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Old 02/16/09, 5:28 AM   #814
 Zakalwe
The Chairmaker
 
Orc Warlock
 
Balnazzar
You get it out before the fight starts - it comes with an unbreakable ritual enslavement that lasts for 15 minutes and causes zero attack speed penalty. I don't know about dark pact, but you shouldn't be putting a point into that in a PvE spec anyway.

The only problem can be getting enough people to click on your doom portal quickly enough - picture 3-4 affliction locks all begging for 4 clickers each while raid leaders are impatient to pull Patchwerk.

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Old 02/16/09, 5:38 AM   #815
Orgath
Von Kaiser
 
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Orc Warlock
 
Kargath (EU)
Originally Posted by Nachtschaduw View Post
On mmo-champ forum someone mentioned they "fixed" Sapphiron's frost aura interaction with pets. Can anyone confirm pets are not taking damage anymore?
Confirmed.
The only damage to imp and infernal came from Saph's blizzard last night.


Originally Posted by Dappa View Post
I'm in the fortunate situation to choose between:
[Heigan's Putrid Vestments] (Naxx25) 258-> 309 dps
[Valorous Plagueheart Robe] (Naxx25) 255 -> 295 dps

The question is which one?

...

Winner is Heigan's IF I exclude the T7 bonus. The bonus has to be worth more than 15~ dps to be worth it.
I've excluded the sockets, but I think they'll come in pretty close.
I'd go with the 4T7 and look which slot gets the best non-set upgrade when you got the headpiece as well.
A thorough debate on the topic can be found here

Last edited by Orgath : 02/16/09 at 5:54 AM.

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Old 02/16/09, 5:49 AM   #816
Orgath
Von Kaiser
 
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Orc Warlock
 
Kargath (EU)
double post, sorry

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Old 02/16/09, 2:04 PM   #817
FalseMyrmidon
Don Flamenco
 
FalseMyrm
Blood Elf Warlock
 
No WoW Account
I was suprised that the Imp doesn't even seem to get touched by the Deep Breath anymore.

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Old 02/16/09, 9:46 PM   #818
zerdell
Von Kaiser
 
Undead Warlock
 
Barthilas
Originally Posted by FalseMyrmidon View Post
I was suprised that the Imp doesn't even seem to get touched by the Deep Breath anymore.
They never did.

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Old 02/17/09, 10:59 AM   #819
NinjaSquirrel
Von Kaiser
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Kel'Thuzad
I use Quartz for the cast bar latency/drain soul ticks and DoTimer for keeping track of my dots. Is there a way to turn off the dot tracking portion of Quartz?

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Old 02/17/09, 1:49 PM   #820
Trickykid
Don Flamenco
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Turalyon
Originally Posted by NinjaSquirrel View Post
I use Quartz for the cast bar latency/drain soul ticks and DoTimer for keeping track of my dots. Is there a way to turn off the dot tracking portion of Quartz?
There should be a "Buff" submenu which lets you choose whether to show Buffs/Debuffs on your target. Although you can always take the opportunity to delete DoTimer and just go with one addon instead of two.

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Old 02/17/09, 1:56 PM   #821
NinjaSquirrel
Von Kaiser
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Kel'Thuzad
Originally Posted by Trickykid View Post
There should be a "Buff" submenu which lets you choose whether to show Buffs/Debuffs on your target. Although you can always take the opportunity to delete DoTimer and just go with one addon instead of two.
Doesn't Quartz only show the timers for your current target?

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Old 02/17/09, 2:46 PM   #822
Trickykid
Don Flamenco
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Turalyon
Originally Posted by NinjaSquirrel View Post
Doesn't Quartz only show the timers for your current target?
Yes. This tackles 95% of boss fights. Multi-dotting isn't as great as it used to be since we gain so many multipliers from continued pressure on a single target. Also the other 5% of fights where you could reasonably be attacking multiple targets generally don't stay alive long enough to care about debuff lengths. The only fight where you could really use it, you don't want to because you need to burn the drakes as fast as possible. To each his own though, it was just a suggestion.

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Old 02/18/09, 11:22 AM   #823
rathgar
Glass Joe
 
Human Warlock
 
Runetotem
I have a quick question about COA vs COE and overall damage. In a fight where there is no COE like debuff up (no unholy DK or Boomkin) if i opt to use COA will my personal dps be higher then if i used the non-damage curse COE?

i know that raid dps will be higher with COE but i was under the impression that me using COA (glyphed) would result in higher personal dps then COE. Is COE a flat 13% dps boost?

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Old 02/18/09, 11:24 AM   #824
Tinava
Piston Honda
 
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Human Warlock
 
Scarlet Crusade
I did the math a while ago to determine the answer to this very question.

And the math is at home at the moment >< but the short version was: Yes. You may lose out on a glyphed/talented dps from CoA, but the overall benefit from COE will be better, in addition to benefiting the raid.

COE is 10 percent (13 talented) for casters in the raid. If you want to do your own math, compare how much percentagewise your CoA does of your overall dps. If its less than either number, COE is the better alternative, especially considering raid buff.

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Old 02/18/09, 12:03 PM   #825
Orgath
Von Kaiser
 
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Orc Warlock
 
Kargath (EU)
Originally Posted by Tinava View Post
And the math is at home at the moment >< but the short version was: Yes. You may lose out on a glyphed/talented dps from CoA, but the overall benefit from COE will be better, in addition to benefiting the raid.
That's a bit misleading.
To put it clear:
If there is no CoE type debuff on the mob, CoE outperforms CoA in any case.

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