Warlock: Simple Questions/Simple Answers - Page 56

Xanzoken · 07/06/09, 8:58 PM

Originally Posted by turturin

2 Vezax hard-mode questions

To deal with problems with GCD pinging:
1. As deep destro, is it worth casting conflagrate on this fight? I run with approx 400 haste for this fight and it brings me below the GCD on both incinerate and chaos bolt. Is it better to stick with a simple immolate-chaos bolt-incinerate rotation as conflag is a bit of a mana hog?

2. Should one cast soulfire as deep destro during heroism (or backdraft if procced)? I know it isn’t propped up as much by talents, but with a base mana cost only 2/3 that of incinerate, could it be effective?

If anyone has experimented with these ideas I’d be interested to hear your results.

I can't comment on the second question, but for the Vezax HM 10man kills I've done I don't use conflag and just stick to immo cb incin. I usually end the fight either oom or near it.

omnius · 07/07/09, 2:51 AM

I'm a little unsure of how to proceed on gear with my chest and shoulder. Currently I'm using [Mantle of the Corrupted] and [Heigan's Putrid Vestments]
I have the t7.5 chest in my bank and I'm not sure whether I'm going to gain or lose DPS if I go for the t7.5 shoulders and replace the above 2 slots with 2 pieces of t7.5 for the 2 piece crit bonus.
If it makes any difference to let you know, I'll never be going for the 4 piece bonus because I already have t8 slotted in hands and legs.

Yeoldelock · 07/07/09, 3:08 AM

Originally Posted by Makapuu

Mimiron question.

We are going to have the lock in my guild tank during P3. What is a good spec for him to use?

Thanks.

Standard 0/13/58. Put up Demon Armor during the P2 to P3 transition, get Misdirects, use Searing Pain to get a threat lead and then do your normal rotation.

aaronhoerst · 07/07/09, 8:35 AM

Due to the upcoming patch, for every time our imp crits, we have a 100% chance to crit. Does our imp's crit chance compile off of our crit chance? or is his crit chance gathered another way? In essence, is there a spread sheet that can tell me what the games internal numbers put our imp at a permenant chance to crit or it can be scaled off of the lock who commands him?

Perforate · 07/07/09, 8:19 PM

Originally Posted by aaronhoerst

Due to the upcoming patch, for every time our imp crits, we have a 100% chance to crit. Does our imp's crit chance compile off of our crit chance?

Currently no, but a recent post made by GC directed towards hunters stated that they did intend for our other important stats like crit and haste to xfer to the pets in a certain amount in the future. They chose hit expertise and resilience first he claimed, as they felt they were the most important and or the easiest to implement.

The haste going to pets I believe will be lovely for the imp when it arrives.

Hazz · 07/07/09, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by Yeoldelock

Standard 0/13/58. Put up Demon Armor during the P2 to P3 transition, get Misdirects, use Searing Pain to get a threat lead and then do your normal rotation.

Pretty much this except if you have soul link, its viable to use Fel armor. But if its a progression raid you may as well play it safe and use demon armor.

Madkappa · 07/08/09, 3:30 AM

Originally Posted by turturin

2. Should one cast soulfire as deep destro during heroism (or backdraft if procced)? I know it isn’t propped up as much by talents, but with a base mana cost only 2/3 that of incinerate, could it be effective?

If anyone has experimented with these ideas I’d be interested to hear your results.

The bonus damage of Chaos Bolt and Incinerate on a target with Immolate from Fire and Brimstone far outweighs the damage of casting Soulfire.

Vasiliskos · 07/08/09, 6:10 AM

Hi everyone,
Next week we are planning to try Mimiron & Vezax hard mode in Ulduar 10 and i 'd like to know how did other warlocks coped with Vezzax. Is there a vaible/ mana efficient specc that u can suggest? Can the standard deep destro specc do the trick if played correctly? Furthermore i d like to ask if it' s advisable or not to include a warlock in this kind of fight or prefer other more mana efficient classes.
Thanks

Hazz · 07/08/09, 11:00 AM

Warlock is fine, just never cast outside of shadowcrash

Callandor · 07/08/09, 12:06 PM

I have read that putting up CotE is not worthwhile if an Unholy DK or Balance Druid are in the party. My question is which talent is it from these speccs that make it so?

Indaria · 07/08/09, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by Callandor

I have read that putting up CotE is not worthwhile if an Unholy DK or Balance Druid are in the party. My question is which talent is it from these speccs that make it so?

Ebon Plaguebringer and Earth & Moon, respectively. Both are procs on attacks, that has a limited (short) duration however, so you may not want to rely on a moonkin keeping the debuff up on for example vezax (or all 3 parts on mimiron in p4).

Perforate · 07/09/09, 1:02 AM

If I am running the standard 0/13/56+ destro build, and I have decided on getting that second point in destructive reach, what place would I be able to take that one point from with the least amount of impact? I am considering taking one from Improves SL. Just wondering if that would be a decent idea.

Thanks in advance.

Edit: Thanks Indaria. And double thanks for the link. Exactly what I needed.

Indaria · 07/09/09, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Perforate

If I am running the standard 0/13/56+ destro build, and I have decided on getting that second point in destructive reach, what place would I be able to take that one point from with the least amount of impact? I am considering taking one from Improves SL. Just wondering if that would be a decent idea.

Thanks in advance.

As seen in SimulationCraft for Warlocks (3.3 numbers) you would do best in removing a point in Backlash to minimize DPS loss for the standard static encounter.

xFrancis147 · 07/11/09, 9:58 PM

Just a quick question regarding what trinket to pick.

I have [Dying Curse] and [Sundial of the Exiled]. I just got [Extract of Necromantic Power]; should i replace Sundial of the Exiled with it? I am 13/58 Destro so I'm wondering if the possible procs from Immolate are better than the proc Spell Damage from Sundial.

Thanks in advance.

bonhoeffer · 07/12/09, 11:40 AM

I've been operating under the assumption that 4 pieces of T8/8.5 trump all other gear configurations. If I remember correctly, the set bonuses come to 300 dps, and no other gear configuration can surpass the dps granted by the set bonuses. Is this still the case? Case in point, Collar of the Wyrmhunter - superior to T8/8.5, but the tier piece trumps the Collar of Wyrmhunter when a tier bonus results from equipping the tier piece. Can anyone confirm?

Vonthin · 07/12/09, 10:40 PM

Hey I have a question about meta, what is the spell power needed if there is a ele shaman in the raid to make up the personal dps loss from respecing from destro by buffing the raid.

Hazz · 07/13/09, 11:15 PM

I have a question about Inferno

Does the stun upon summoning of an infernal cause diminishing returns in PvE?

Xandora · 07/15/09, 7:11 PM

In terms of maximizing DPS, is it better to let immolate drop off while casting an Incen or CB and then recast immolate directly after, or clip that last tick and keep immolate rolling?

isidre · 07/16/09, 4:17 AM

if i cast an incinerate, than cast immolate, and immolate goes up before incinerate hits, do i still get the bonus damage? essentially, can i spell weave an immolate?

if i can, this can often prevent me from having to cast over the end of my immolate, and let me reduce the number of times i cast immolate slightly in favor of casting incinerate because i could allow immolate not to be up 100% of the time without losing incinerate damage.

is this even possible? and if it is, does anyone know if it would work out the way i think it would to increase dps?

Braiinchild · 07/16/09, 5:48 AM

Originally Posted by isidre

if i cast an incinerate, than cast immolate, and immolate goes up before incinerate hits, do i still get the bonus damage? essentially, can i spell weave an immolate?

if i can, this can often prevent me from having to cast over the end of my immolate, and let me reduce the number of times i cast immolate slightly in favor of casting incinerate because i could allow immolate not to be up 100% of the time without losing incinerate damage.

is this even possible? and if it is, does anyone know if it would work out the way i think it would to increase dps?

Incinerate's damage is calculated on the spell cast, not on the animation's hit. Thus, if you have an immolate on the target when the cast becomes successful, your hit will benefit from the Immolate being on the target even if Immolate fades before the animation hits. This prevents you from having to clip the end of an immolate a lot of the time.

However, because of this mechanic, if you cast Incinerate without Immolate being up and then put an Immolate up in flight, your Incinerate will *not* gain the +damage from Immolate being on the target.

Braiinchild · 07/16/09, 5:57 AM

Originally Posted by xFrancis147

Just a quick question regarding what trinket to pick.

I have [Dying Curse] and [Sundial of the Exiled]. I just got [Extract of Necromantic Power]; should i replace Sundial of the Exiled with it? I am 13/58 Destro so I'm wondering if the possible procs from Immolate are better than the proc Spell Damage from Sundial.

Thanks in advance.

Sundial is much higher DPS than Extract. Dying Curse, even at Ulduar gear levels, is an amazing trinket because of its high SP proc. If you can gear around the hit on it, it would most likely be a better choice as well. Extract is fairly low on the list of good trinkets for Warlocks, even though it may look appetizing at first.

Godfree · 07/16/09, 6:41 AM

Hey guys, I've got a low level question. As destro at low level (currently 20) would it be better to run a Succubus until Empowered Imp at higher levels? Seems she does more DPS even though i've got improved imp from Demo.

krisp · 07/16/09, 9:32 AM

The question is why would you take improved imp if you're destro and at such lower levels. You'll want the more important nukes (conflag etc) as soon as possible, so wasting 3 points in demo just to get a meager increase in the imp's already meager dps is stupid to say the least.

FalseMyrmidon · 07/16/09, 9:39 AM

The answer would be to spec affliction for leveling. Destro is the worst leveling spec we have.

FalseMyrmidon · 07/17/09, 2:21 AM

Does the Imp's Fireball spell actually cost mana? Tooltip says it costs 180 but I just watched my imp chaincast fireball when he was out of mana (ie he'd be casting it even if he only had say 30 mana). It seems like he casts it whether or not he has the mana for it and it just takes a portion of the cost.