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Old 02/19/09, 5:55 PM   #841
bananarchy
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Omaly
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First of all, change your gems. Why are you gemming Mp5? You should be gemming spirit/ hit rating if they are blue slots. Secondly, If Conflagrate isn't in your rotation, why did you even get it? Respec, reGem, and then see what your dps comes out to.

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Old 02/20/09, 2:44 AM   #842
Veev
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Human Warrior
 
Executus
Two quick questions:

For warrior's Execute, the tooltip used to say something along the lines of "at or below 20%" even though it could only be used at 19%; it appears to have been cleaned up since then into saying "less than 20% health." However, Drain Soul is currently worded as "at or below 25% health" - I'm wondering if the spell is actually <=25% or just <25%?

Also, for Death's Embrace to come into effect I realize you have to recast DoTs on the target; when you use Haunt to refresh Corruption does that allow Corruption to benefit from the extra damage (since it never falls off completely)?

Thanks!

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Old 02/20/09, 3:20 AM   #843
molson
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Aegwynn
Originally Posted by Veev View Post
Drain Soul is currently worded as "at or below 25% health" - I'm wondering if the spell is actually <=25% or just <25%?
When you are talking about a boss with millions of HP, the difference between 25% and 24.99% is moot. I personally use MSBT for tracking Drain Soul ticks both audibly and visibly and as an "execute warning" when the boss crosses that threshold, makes it very simple to know when to start DS, and when to reapply dots.

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Old 02/20/09, 3:35 AM   #844
Nachtschaduw
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Draenor (EU)
I've been told that they fixed Sapphiron's aura interaction with pets, however the doomguard doesn't seem to be affected by it since it's not really recognized as a pet.

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Old 02/20/09, 4:01 AM   #845
Veev
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Human Warrior
 
Executus
Originally Posted by molson View Post
When you are talking about a boss with millions of HP, the difference between 25% and 24.99% is moot. I personally use MSBT for tracking Drain Soul ticks both audibly and visibly and as an "execute warning" when the boss crosses that threshold, makes it very simple to know when to start DS, and when to reapply dots.
I have no problem of being aware when to cast, my question was when the actual bonus damage effects kick in.

I'm not talking .01%, I believe the game rounds and treats the boss as either 19% or 20% (don't quote me on that).

The example I was giving before was that in the past even though Execute's tooltip clearly said "at or below 20%" your Execute button wouldn't light up until the mob's health displayed 19%. Now maybe that was 19.99% (this was before mob's exact health could be gotten from the Blizzard API), but I believe they always rounded up, meaning 19.01% would display/return as 20%, because you would never see a boss display 0% hp before dying.

Anyway, my point/question was if Drain Soul actually works as the tooltip describes or if it behaves similar to the faulty wording Execute used to have, in that the extra damage doesn't kick in until 24.00%.

Hope I was clear enough this time around, and do appreciate the response. (I'm asking because I'm making my own mod to warn on execute range, I know what other mods use but they could be off 1% if they hadn't specifically tested it.)

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Old 02/20/09, 10:57 AM   #846
subzeroqtt
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Orc Warlock
 
Andorhal
As an affliction lock, on Patchwerk, would it be more beneficial to use a wild magic pot during Bloodlust or a speed pot below 25% to decrease the time between DS ticks?

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Old 02/20/09, 11:06 AM   #847
NinjaSquirrel
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Gnome Warlock
 
Kel'Thuzad
If there is no feral or balance druid in the raid, but there is an unholy deathknight, would it benefit the raid more for me to take a 10-13% peronal dps loss and use Curse of Recklessness if we have ~3 hunters, 2 rogues, and a fury warrior in the raid?

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Old 02/20/09, 1:29 PM   #848
Trickykid
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Turalyon
Originally Posted by NinjaSquirrel View Post
If there is no feral or balance druid in the raid, but there is an unholy deathknight, would it benefit the raid more for me to take a 10-13% peronal dps loss and use Curse of Recklessness if we have ~3 hunters, 2 rogues, and a fury warrior in the raid?
Rogues and Warriors both can apply an armor reduction buff.

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Old 02/20/09, 2:24 PM   #849
Akj
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Suramar
Originally Posted by Trickykid View Post
Rogues and Warriors both can apply an armor reduction buff.
Sunder/Expose Armor is a different effect (major armor reduction).

To answer the question, the benefit of -1.2k armor is not uniform across physical damage classes so it's hard to calculate CoR's exact worth but from your composition it looks like it'd be worth it. A hunter with a wasp pet for sting can provide the same effect so you might want to consider that option too.

Edited for clarity


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Old 02/20/09, 2:28 PM   #850
NinjaSquirrel
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Gnome Warlock
 
Kel'Thuzad
I didn't think about the wasp.

From calculations, it's be about a 4% dps loss for the Surv hunter to use a wasp. The hunter seems to be better alternatives to CoR.

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Old 02/20/09, 2:39 PM   #851
duhwhat
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Undead Warlock
 
Area 52
Are there differences in buffs that we should be asking for the imp, felhunter, succubus, felguard, and doomguard?

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Old 02/20/09, 5:57 PM   #852
Kanno
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Human Warlock
 
Dark Iron
Does Quartz (the addon) still give you a dps boost or did that change when they fixed the /stopcasting stuff? As affliction, if it matters.

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Old 02/20/09, 9:41 PM   #853
turturin
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Orc Warlock
 
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Originally Posted by duhwhat View Post
Are there differences in buffs that we should be asking for the imp, felhunter, succubus, felguard, and doomguard?
Only in pally buffs. And pallypower addon will assign your melee pets based on warrior buffs and caster pets based on your buffs, so it shouldn't be a worry.

You might have to ask for wisdom for your melee pets when there are more than 2 pallies, as the pally in charge may not realize that pets will get whatever the warrior is given and wisdom is clearly not useful for the warriors themselves.

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Old 02/21/09, 10:23 PM   #854
Lominen
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Orc Warlock
 
Kazzak (EU)
Originally Posted by turturin View Post
Only in pally buffs. And pallypower addon will assign your melee pets based on warrior buffs and caster pets based on your buffs, so it shouldn't be a worry.

You might have to ask for wisdom for your melee pets when there are more than 2 pallies, as the pally in charge may not realize that pets will get whatever the warrior is given and wisdom is clearly not useful for the warriors themselves.
Have you actually ever seen your pet go oom in a raid setting without wisdom? I know I haven't at least.

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Old 02/22/09, 10:25 AM   #855
Jaynen
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Orc Warlock
 
Grizzly Hills
Simple question I think but I am unsure of the answer. Been doing heroics/10man as a Meta/Ruin spec because I don't even have a lot of heroic gear yet. Felguard is definitely nice for farming and doing dailies etc also but when can I switch to affliction and see an increase in dps to offset the loss of SP and pet damage?

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