Warlock: Simple Questions/Simple Answers - Page 58

exzarkun · 02/22/09, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by Jaynen

Simple question I think but I am unsure of the answer. Been doing heroics/10man as a Meta/Ruin spec because I don't even have a lot of heroic gear yet. Felguard is definitely nice for farming and doing dailies etc also but when can I switch to affliction and see an increase in dps to offset the loss of SP and pet damage?

I was doing more DPS as soon as I switched to affliction after a week or so of heroics, even with the growing pains of the vastly more complicated aff cycle (I had been destro since release). I think I had around 1800 or so SP self buffed at the time, can't recall the particulars as far as haste/crit. There will be a little pucker factor when you see how much crit and SP you lose as soon as you switch, but it'll pass soon as you settle in.

Jaynen · 02/22/09, 12:40 PM

I have 1800 or so now but thats with the Felguard =/ and the improved fel armor

blecap · 02/24/09, 9:55 PM

I'm new to destro dps, I searched the forum on rotation 3.0.8 with the Glyph of Conflag no longer consume Immolate etc, can't really find my ans though. I've some question that be the Basic startup rotation, into the fight ( What i should be casting during bloodlust,conflag.) and when do i fit in soulfire?

calderstrake · 02/24/09, 11:48 PM

@blecap

Your English is a bit confusing, however I found all the answers to your questions in The Mage Equivalent: The Destruction Warlock thread, in the very first post.

husec · 02/25/09, 1:02 AM

Im a little baffled as to how Drain Soul works when using it when the mob is below 25%, im currently using Dotimer and DrainSoulTimer.

"Drain Soul (same as Shadow Bolt when the target is below 25% hp)"

So basically instead of casting Sb you just use Drain Soul and reaplly all dots as soon as they finish?

Does Drain Soul eat any of your dots or do anything to them in any way?

"A good way is to just reapply dots and haunt as soon as there is more than one of them fading off."

So lets say im using Drainsoul and Haunt is about to fade off but my other spells have 8 seconds left, do i stop and reapply Haunt or continue to Drainsoul? I was thinking of just reapplying the dot as soon as it is fading eithen if im using Drainsoul.

Im very very new to Affliction and how it works so ive read both the threads on here many times.

Thanks.

calderstrake · 02/25/09, 1:21 AM

Originally Posted by husec

So lets say im using Drainsoul and Haunt is about to fade off but my other spells have 8 seconds left, do i stop and reapply Haunt or continue to Drainsoul? I was thinking of just reapplying the dot as soon as it is fading eithen if im using Drainsoul.

In this case, you would reapply Haunt and then use Drain Soul again until the next dot falls off. However, if your rotation is working properly, you should be reapplying Haunt and UA at the same time. Here is a typical scenario for <25% dps:

You notice boss goes to 25%, you immediately check dots for up-time remaining--> If any are <= 2sec, reapply; if not cast DS
-Haunt/SE has 3sec remaining (UA maybe 4 sec) --> recast Haunt then UA
-CoA dropps off --> recast
-Siphon Life drops off --> recast

It is only a minor dps increase to keep re-applying Immolate, so leaving it off may not be noticeable. I usually don't use it <25%.

Magi · 02/26/09, 12:16 AM

41/30 questions...

Metagem: I use +25 SD / minor run -- I like the run! (obviously). Is Chaotic Skyflare unquestionably better?
Pet: Does Doomguard beat Felguard?

Thanks.

feartrain · 02/26/09, 7:05 AM

Originally Posted by Magi

Pet: Does Doomguard beat Felguard?

Not at all.

Holo · 02/26/09, 12:46 PM

Edit: Nvm, delete this.

vaestmanaeyjar · 02/26/09, 9:06 PM

Quick question as I don't have the opportunity to test this ingame: is it worth it not to cast Immolate with a conflagrate (glyphed)build, provided another warlock in the raid has one on the boss ?
Was thinking of this to achieve a SB/Conf/Inci/Inci etc rotation using the Immolate of the second warlock of the raid who is Affli specced.
Incidentally yes I'm thinking of a 3.1 Demonology build using SB, conflag, Incinerate/soulfire (depending on whether casting/not casting Immolate returns)

Orgath · 02/27/09, 3:58 AM

Conflag only works on your own Immolate, despite the default UI's Cooldown Timer showing the spell available without.

Inch · 02/27/09, 6:25 AM

Hi all, I'm 0/53/18 meta/ruin.

Is it better to use the Firestone or the Spellstone in raid? For what I know, the Spellstone should be better due to the fact that crit scale worste than haste.

Am I right?

teneran · 02/27/09, 8:51 AM

Originally Posted by husec

Im a little baffled as to how Drain Soul works when using it when the mob is below 25%, im currently using Dotimer and DrainSoulTimer.

"Drain Soul (same as Shadow Bolt when the target is below 25% hp)"

So basically instead of casting Sb you just use Drain Soul and reaplly all dots as soon as they finish?

Does Drain Soul eat any of your dots or do anything to them in any way?

"A good way is to just reapply dots and haunt as soon as there is more than one of them fading off."

So lets say im using Drainsoul and Haunt is about to fade off but my other spells have 8 seconds left, do i stop and reapply Haunt or continue to Drainsoul? I was thinking of just reapplying the dot as soon as it is fading eithen if im using Drainsoul.

Im very very new to Affliction and how it works so ive read both the threads on here many times.

Thanks.

Yes, cast drain soul when the boss is at or below 25%.

Drain soul won't affect any dots in any way. Since you'll have soul siphon talented, you'll want to maintain all your dots on the target though.

Yes, always reapply haunt. You should strive for 100% haunt uptime. Don't clip your dots otherwise, that's what the drainsoultimer addon is for. Listen for the DS ticks, and just reapply dots after each DS tick as needed. In other words, treat DS as a series of shadow bolts.

Spawner · 02/27/09, 1:36 PM

In a Meta/Ruin spec what potion is best to use

Potion of Wild Magic - Item - World of Warcraft

OR

Potion of Speed - Item - World of Warcraft

I know that depends on gear but have anyone calculated the raw dps u gain with each of these?

Veliaf · 02/28/09, 8:16 PM

Originally Posted by Spawner

In a Meta/Ruin spec what potion is best to use

Potion of Wild Magic - Item - World of Warcraft

OR

Potion of Speed - Item - World of Warcraft

I know that depends on gear but have anyone calculated the raw dps u gain with each of these?

I should imagine, though I've not calculated it properly and it may be necessary to, that the former potion would be better. It depends what you cast, due to the SP coeff, but the SP and crit should provide more dps than the extra haste, as haste scales pretty badly in relation to the other two, and 9% more crit is a fair amount.