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Old 09/07/09, 3:27 PM   #1551
Ducka
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Undead Warlock
 
Shattered Halls
What would be the ideal 4pc t9 set?

I'm looking at the set atm and it doesn't look all that great. Hit on the chest, crit on the shoulders, but the legs look really nice. Earlier in this post someone said that 4pc 8.5 -> 4pc 9/9.5 is a dps increase. What pieces should we be going for?

This is, of course, for a destro spec.

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Old 09/08/09, 3:00 AM   #1552
Octivia
Glass Joe
 
Undead Warlock
 
Winterhoof
Originally Posted by marano View Post
You always focus on spell power and haste, regardless of your crit rating. Crit rating is to be considered as a 'bonus stat' which is welcomed when received, but isn't sought-after when itemizing.
thanks for the help!

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Old 09/08/09, 7:07 AM   #1553
Orgath
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Kargath (EU)
Originally Posted by Ducka View Post
What would be the ideal 4pc t9 set?

I'm looking at the set atm and it doesn't look all that great. Hit on the chest, crit on the shoulders, but the legs look really nice. Earlier in this post someone said that 4pc 8.5 -> 4pc 9/9.5 is a dps increase. What pieces should we be going for?

This is, of course, for a destro spec.
10-man Hardmode Twins drop Gloves equal to T9.25 except for trading crit to haste 1:1 + 1 additional yellow socket.
So the ideal 4T9 setup would be Head, Chest, Shoulders and Legs.
Of course with only 5 Token per 25man per week it depends on your 10 man Hardmode Performance to get that in less than 20 weeks. I'd recommend Merlins Robe and Badge Hat in between.

for a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest - Simon & Garfunkel

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Old 09/08/09, 7:34 AM   #1554
Naforce
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Human Warlock
 
Frostmane (EU)
Originally Posted by Orgath View Post
10-man Hardmode Twins drop Gloves equal to T9.25 except for trading crit to haste 1:1 + 1 additional yellow socket.
So the ideal 4T9 setup would be Head, Chest, Shoulders and Legs.
Of course with only 5 Token per 25man per week it depends on your 10 man Hardmode Performance to get that in less than 20 weeks. I'd recommend Merlins Robe and Badge Hat in between.
what about the twin val'kyr 25man hard chest? It's really really good! Skyweaver Robes - Items - Sigrie

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Old 09/08/09, 8:51 AM   #1555
Orgath
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Originally Posted by Naforce View Post
what about the twin val'kyr 25man hard chest? It's really really good! Skyweaver Robes - Items - Sigrie
If you are in a position to aquire 25man Hardmode gear, you won't worry about 4T9.
The only slots that do not have 25man HM upgrades are Head and Shoulders.

for a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest - Simon & Garfunkel

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Old 09/08/09, 9:13 AM   #1556
Naforce
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Human Warlock
 
Frostmane (EU)
Originally Posted by Orgath View Post
If you are in a position to aquire 25man Hardmode gear, you won't worry about 4T9.
The only slots that do not have 25man HM upgrades are Head and Shoulders.
Looking at the stat gain vs loosing 4set bonus it seems like a tight race, 4set might be superior still. (This calculation done with chest being the non-set item). These are not pure bis but something like that should be close to bis.
4set: Profiler - Wowhead
2set: Profiler - Wowhead

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Old 09/08/09, 9:49 AM   #1557
Orgath
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With the way HM Tokens are aquired, it will be a question of availability. With Badges beeing easily available already, my first suggestions to getting oneself ToC-Starter geared remains - as easiest to aquire (once the "Orb for Badges" patch hits at least)

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Old 09/08/09, 10:23 AM   #1558
Yeda
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Old 09/08/09, 1:03 PM   #1559
Beveline
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Stormrage
Empowered Imp

I use PowerAuras addon for tracking things like percentage of health on a boss, self buffs and tracking debuffs on Bosses. Somebody was nice enough to send me some code for Decimation that I imported and worked perfectly. Now I am trying to setup PA to track Empowered Imp procs since I just added my second piece of T9 gear. I don't want to be wasting EI buffs on something silly like an Immolate. Any ideas? Here is the code for the Decimate proc btw if anybody would like to use it as well.

gcd:bofalse; soundfile:st; owntex:bofalse; b:nu1; anim1:nu1; duration:nu0; g:nu1; thresholdinvert:bofalse; ignoremaj:botrue; opt2:nu0; speed:nu1; finish:nu1; icon:stInterface\Icons\Spell_Fire_Fireball02; size:nu0.75; torsion:nu1; multiids:st; stacksOperator:st=; realaura:nu1; sound:nu0; optunitn:bofalse; off:bofalse; symetrie:nu0; begin:nu0; x:nu0; texmode:nu1; timer:bofalse; customname:st; target:bofalse; timerduration:nu0; wowtex:bofalse; groupany:bofalse; customsound:st; combat:nu0; y:nu-30; randomcolor:bofalse; unitn:stOnly for raid/group.; bufftype:nu1; r:nu1; aurastextfont:nu1; party:bofalse; opt1:nu0; focus:bofalse; isenchant:bofalse; raid:bofalse; isdebufftype:bofalse; texture:nu1; anim2:nu0; buffname:stDecimation; customtex:bofalse; stacks:nu0; threshold:nu50; exact:bofalse; alpha:nu0.75; aurastext:st; textaura:bofalse; isdebuff:bofalse; inverse:bofalse; ismounted:bofalse; targetfriend:bofalse; mine:bofalse; isinraid:bofalse; stance:nu10

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Old 09/08/09, 1:26 PM   #1560
dozens
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Dwarf Warlock
 
Ysondre
I just started using PowerAuras. How do I import code like the Decimation example posted?

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Old 09/08/09, 1:45 PM   #1561
ElJoser
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Cenarion Circle
I asked this in the simcraft thread but I'll do it here as well. Can someone explain to me how to use my armory build and gear to run simcraft? I understand the format that needs to be used, but I don't know what file needs to be edited or how to go about editing it. Greatly appreciate the help

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Old 09/08/09, 2:14 PM   #1562
Beveline
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Stormrage
Originally Posted by dozens View Post
I just started using PowerAuras. How do I import code like the Decimation example posted?
Not sitting infront of my WoW at the moment, but I believe that you use the "Import" function and copy and past the code.

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Old 09/09/09, 8:07 AM   #1563
Hront
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Свежеватель душ (EU)
Originally Posted by ElJoser View Post
I asked this in the simcraft thread but I'll do it here as well. Can someone explain to me how to use my armory build and gear to run simcraft? I understand the format that needs to be used, but I don't know what file needs to be edited or how to go about editing it. Greatly appreciate the help
You must write command like this:

simcraft armory=US,Cenarion%20Circle,ElJoser output=ElJoser.txt html=ElJoser.html iterations=10000 calculate_scale_factors=1 smooth_scale_factors=1 threads=3

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Old 09/09/09, 9:15 AM   #1564
duhwhat
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Area 52
Originally Posted by Beveline View Post
I don't want to be wasting EI buffs on something silly like an Immolate.
Perhaps this could be tested in simcraft to see if it's actually a dps increase. Something like checking for EI procs and casting incinerate or chaosbolt at a higher priority than maintaining the Immolate debuff, which is currently priority #2 behind CoD in the default action priority list.

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Old 09/09/09, 10:52 PM   #1565
Cynosure
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Kil'Jaeden
Glyph of Life Tap + Suppression Vs. Improved Soul Leech

With the change to the 40s lifetap duration; is it more beneficial to spec into suppression(therefore lifetapping more) now? or Is it still more effective to spec into imp soul leech(and life tap less) assuming you aren't heavily gimping other stats to do so?

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Old 09/11/09, 6:28 PM   #1566
timb111
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Gnome Warlock
 
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Khadgar (EU)
Originally Posted by Beveline View Post
I use PowerAuras addon for tracking things like percentage of health on a boss, self buffs and tracking debuffs on Bosses. Somebody was nice enough to send me some code for Decimation that I imported and worked perfectly. Now I am trying to setup PA to track Empowered Imp procs since I just added my second piece of T9 gear. I don't want to be wasting EI buffs on something silly like an Immolate. Any ideas?
Here's the one I use. It puts an orange exclamation mark in the middle of your screen when you get the buff. Power Auras is very easy to use so I'm sure you could customise it to your own liking:

gcd:bofalse; soundfile:st; owntex:bofalse; b:nu0.25882352941176; anim1:nu1; duration:nu0; g:nu0.53333333333333; thresholdinvert:bofalse; ignoremaj:botrue; opt2:nu0; speed:nu1; stance:nu10; icon:stInterface\Icons\Ability_Warlock_EmpoweredImp; size:nu0.75999999046326; torsion:nu1; multiids:st; stacksOperator:st=; realaura:nu1; mine:bofalse; optunitn:bofalse; x:nu0; inverse:bofalse; begin:nu0; off:bofalse; isdebuff:bofalse; customname:st; textaura:bofalse; target:bofalse; combat:nu0; wowtex:bofalse; groupany:bofalse; customsound:st; timerduration:nu0; exact:bofalse; threshold:nu50; unitn:stOnly for raid/group.; bufftype:nu1; stacks:nu0; aurastextfont:nu1; party:bofalse; customtex:bofalse; focus:bofalse; isenchant:bofalse; raid:bofalse; isdebufftype:bofalse; texture:nu27; buffname:stempowered imp; anim2:nu0; opt1:nu0; r:nu1; randomcolor:bofalse; y:nu-30; alpha:nu0.75; aurastext:st; timer:bofalse; texmode:nu1; symetrie:nu0; ismounted:bofalse; targetfriend:bofalse; sound:nu0; isinraid:bofalse; finish:nu1

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Old 09/12/09, 10:01 AM   #1567
Beveline
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Stormrage
Exactly what I needed...Thank you so much! Will import that tonight!

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Old 09/13/09, 7:38 PM   #1568
Evyle
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Human Warlock
 
Proudmoore
Locks and Heroic Anub'arak in 25 man

Please remove post

Last edited by Evyle : 09/15/09 at 8:00 PM. Reason: topic choice

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Old 09/13/09, 9:24 PM   #1569
Seregon
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Blood Elf Rogue
 
Kult der Verdammten (EU)
Basic Question: My Warlock dinged 80 like 3 days ago. Hes ilevel200 equipped (toc normal, some pvp epics, some blue items). Which build should be the most effective for starting pve? I know Destruction needs some equiped and i read Demonology is the way to go, but im not sure (Affliction atm 2,1k DPS buffed).

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Old 09/14/09, 12:57 AM   #1570
Snidelyw
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Gnome Warlock
 
Proudmoore
In 3.2 does Demonic Pact benefit from Lightweave Embroidery procs and trinket procs like Dying Curse and Illustration of the Dragon Soul?

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Old 09/14/09, 1:25 PM   #1571
Ascendant
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Undead Warlock
 
Borean Tundra
3 questions regarding the new content and how it will affect our priorities:

1. with the new BiS trinket for us [Reign of the dead], will crit be taking precedence over haste with this new patch? seems like with enough crit chance, that trinket could dramatically boost our dps, not sure how much haste will help it though.

2. do our pets benefit from our crit at all? i don't believe they do but figured i'd ask anyway.

3. as an aff lock, will our best dps pet still be the succy or would there be a better choice based on our new tier 2-piece bonus?

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Old 09/15/09, 12:08 PM   #1572
Indaria
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Undead Warlock
 
Haomarush (EU)
Originally Posted by Petronella View Post
I have tried to compare Perdition with Illumination and im not sure which one that is slighty better. My result was that Illumination was much better but i think i did it all wrong. Can anyone help me telling me which staff is best?
How did you compare them?

By looking at the pure dps stats, Illumination has way more crit but slightly less haste than Perdition.
Considering that you get an extra socket and none of the socket bonuses are worth going for, Illumination wins.

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Old 09/16/09, 8:30 PM   #1573
Savassan
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Agamaggan
Hey there guys, I'm leveling with my GF *she is currently Feral- Cat spec* I'm affliction, Was wondering if there would be a viable way to level Destro with her or if she would need to be Bear to be able to hold any agro at all. It would allow for mowing down single targets but severely weaken our multi-tareting ability.

To add on, I am level 24 so searing pain and Immo + maybe Shadowburn seem like key abilities, but the high threat of Searing pain makes it difficult

Thanks all.
Savassan

Last edited by Savassan : 09/16/09 at 8:42 PM.

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Old 09/17/09, 11:44 AM   #1574
DiamondTear
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Lightning's Blade (EU)
Rawr is suggesting that Seized Beauty is better than Signet of Manifested Pain.

I have set the buffs and rotation up properly. Spec is destro. What am I doing wrong?

Edit: I was told that Chaos Bolt in the rotation breaks rawr and this appears to be correct.

Last edited by DiamondTear : 09/17/09 at 12:07 PM.

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Old 09/17/09, 11:47 AM   #1575
mjball
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Dragonblight
edit: please delete this post.

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