Warlock: Simple Questions/Simple Answers - Page 73

valheran · 04/22/09, 2:09 AM

If you are "downgrading" to 8 all stats, why not just take TBC +18 spirit? I know starting lock probably won't be able to put out 150+G for life tap glyph, but even without it, 18 spirit should outperform stats ench.

gia · 04/22/09, 3:48 AM

What is my priority for threat output as FG/Emberstorm? What dots are worth keeping up at the start until I build up a good enough threat lead, is it all of them because of molten core procs, or do I just spam searing pain and then start a normal dps rotation?

Tinava · 04/22/09, 2:03 PM

I think this this a quick question:

Which is worth more points in a 40/31 demo/destro build: 3/3 MC or 3/5 Demonic Tactics? I've seen this basic build both ways...one with MC maxed out, another with one point out of MC and into DT.

blgdinger · 04/22/09, 6:12 PM

When was the felhunter nerfed so that in PVE situations its Devour Magic can fail dispelling a magic debuff on a friendly target?

What is the % chance that this can happen?

For reference:
http://i42.tinypic.com/1zo8g87.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/2prvkms.jpg

His combat log shows him saying my devour magic failed. -_- Amazing that other classes can just freely dispel stuff with no issue in PVE but my the felhunter has to be gimp. Also I'm preeetty sure that Steelbreaker doesn't have talent points that make his debuffs more difficult to dispel :p

krilz · 04/23/09, 10:23 AM

A quick question from me about Affliction (might be stupid but I'm curious).

Considering that Drain Soul has been reworked (you hardly ever run out of shards) is it now viable to somehow work in Shadowburn in your rotation as Affliction?

embrauer · 04/23/09, 1:10 PM

Originally Posted by krilz

A quick question from me about Affliction (might be stupid but I'm curious).

Considering that Drain Soul has been reworked (you hardly ever run out of shards) is it now viable to somehow work in Shadowburn in your rotation as Affliction?

Short answer is no. It's been covered around here in a number of places, but the damage per cast time of Shadowburn is too low to be effective. Secondly almost all Affliction specs forego the Shadowburn talent anyway, so it's usually not even an option. The argument could be made that since you're lifetapping every 20 seconds, the 1 point in Cataclysm is pointless, and thus you could put that point into Shadowburn, but the first point still stands.

valheran · 04/23/09, 1:52 PM

I would say even with 0 points in cataclysm, there are better places to put yur talents than shadowburn. Myself, I decided to take 1 point less in nigfall, and took 1 of 2 in both range talents.

marsui · 04/23/09, 2:53 PM

Originally Posted by Marklar

This completely ignores the fact that stacking Imp. scorch has a very high cost for the mage as well. In order to pick up the debuff, the mage has to either give up a dps glyph or spend at least 7.5 seconds casting scorch. An affliction warlock can maintain it by weaving in a 2.5 second cast after 30 seconds, or less if nightfall procs. Unless you are looking at a very long fight, the mage is likely to lose more dps picking it up and maintaining it than the warlock will lose just maintaining it.

What if there are no mages, under 25%, for his own dps, would the warlock want to keep up shadow mastery?

Meaning, will the warlock lose more dps if he ignores shadow mastery and loses 5% crit on his own spells, or will he lose more dps by wasting time casting a shadowbolt every 30 seconds?

VenomByte · 04/24/09, 7:02 AM

Isn't that entirely irrelevant, given that it will clearly be a dps buff for the raid as a whole, even if the warlock did lose out a little from it?

Anyway, here's some approximate math for an affliction warlock:
5% crit is 45.91*5 = 229.55 spell crit. Assuming 10 crit is worth 6.58dps (from Dots & You thread), that 5% is worth 151dps. Over 28 seconds (we'll assume a 2 second shadowbolt which we won't count the crit bonus on), that makes ~4.2k damage.

Your shadowbolt has a dpct ~1.4k lower than drain soul. Assuming a 2 second cast, you've lost ~2.8k damage by casting a shadowbolt. Perhaps a little more since your timing will never be perfect.

You're clearly better keeping the buff up, even without considering nightfall procs.

Dopamean · 04/24/09, 7:09 AM

Quick question.
As a demonic pact warlock, I know the spellpower gained by taking the demonic aegis talent is not used to calculate the spellpower the demonic pact buff gives to the raid. Are there any other spellpower increasing talents/buffs that are also ignored?
I've found mixed information regarding lightweave embroidery, glyph of lifetap, 4pc T7, flasks, food and Illustration of the dragon soul stacks. Could anyone point me in the right direction to find out whether the spellpower increase given by these influences the spellpower buff given by demonic pact?

valheran · 04/24/09, 8:23 AM

Originally Posted by VenomByte

Assuming 10 crit is worth 6.58dps (from Dots & You thread)

That value is relevant to entire dps, over whole fight. You simply cannot use it as argument about <25%, no SBolt phase.

VenomByte · 04/24/09, 9:16 AM

Fair point. It's going to be worth a little less than half of that if you're not casting shadowbolts, which makes the numbers much closer.

Bloodvalor · 04/24/09, 5:29 PM

What is considered to fastest leveling spec out there? My guild is in need of a good warlock so if I play one I need to level it to 80 ASAP. I poked around a bit and it seems Affliction would be the fastest but I want more opinions

Nap · 04/24/09, 6:59 PM

Originally Posted by Bloodvalor

... in need of a good warlock so if I play one I need to level it to 80 ASAP ...

These statements seem counterintuitive to me. There is a difference between a good player playing a Warlock and a good Warlock.

If you want one fast, EBay one. Otherwise, use the leveling time to learn some about what play style fits you best. For my money, I'd recommend Affliction until 45-ish, then Demonology until you are ready to raid.

Malbrax · 04/24/09, 11:37 PM

Can anyone test this spec out for me?

Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

I am getting a massive amount of personal dps with this .. insane haste and i have been pulling out 500-800 more dps than any other build

I used Immolate, Incinerate and conflag glyphs

Anyone willing to give any advice on it would be nice