Patchwerk 25man, 3.5k DPS

Raid Stats:
+2009 SD
+17% hit Aff
+14% hit Destro
15% Crit,
146 Haste [Armory in Profile as well]

Glyphs: Corruption, SL, Immolate

Others:
-CoE Lock (since I have Malediction)
-Popped Potion of Wild Magic during Bloodlust
-I don't cast Immolate after 25% HP due to Drain Soul DPCT.

Wow Web Stats if anyone has any comments.

Could you maybe make a post with a little more meat to it?

Anyway, nice work.

Raw DPS isnt exactly a good measure until your raid group is killing him in 'under achievement' time, in that cooldowns and lust are up more, so the DPS is actually higher from that. So it is a bit misleading as to how well you are playing your lock compared to some lock doing 5700 dps.

What the best measure I've found is to find that lock that got 5700 dps, and find a WWS of his. Then calculate his DoT uptimes compared to yours, as well as SB/Haunt hits. Then you can start looking at raid comp, going by buffs and then finally looking at gear gap.

There is so much more people can get out of WWS other than a raw DPS number and I felt that I just needed to post some of that before this thread just turns into a WWS linking thread. I'd love to see aff locks start posting their DoT uptimes when they post their WWS then it would save me having to enter your numbers into my spreadsheet I use to track my performance. Also post your glyphs.

First, thanks for the complements. I wanted to edit my post to include more meat, but I didn't exactly know how, hehe. Here's another WWS (not the best fights, but meh):
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I'm using glyph of Corruption, CoA, and SL. I want to change CoA to Immolate, but I'm on Dawnbringer and haven't been able to do that yet since no one has it.

I keep feeling like I should be doing more DPS, but consistently am falling short of my markers. One tip I've found from here is casting more Shadowbolts and less Haunts, which did seem to make a difference on Archavon today. Before, I was casting Haunt as soon as it's CD is up. Now, I use a small "rule-of-thumb" to cast 1 more spell once the cooldown's up before I cast Haunt. Sometimes it falls off for a few miliseconds, and while I feel like some DoT is probably ticking there and losing dmg, I'm wondering if I'm making up the DPS in the other spell I cast.

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Armory Profile
Destro Spec 0/13/58
Glyphs used:
Corruption
CoA
Imp
Souls
Drain Soul

I had nearly the lowest DPS all night and nearly all the boss fights. I don't know if it's my gear, spec, rotation or what. My rotation starts with Chaos Bolt, Immolate, CoA, Corruption, then Incinerate spam until CB cool down is over, then cast CB. By that time Immolate has 3 sec or less left, so I cast conflag, refresh immolate and start again. That's pretty much my entire rotation refreshing CoA & Corruption as needed.

I'm considering trying a Demo spec, see how that works. I tried Affliction, but found it to be a bit too challenging.

I'd appreciate any advice.

I did a O.O at your armory when I saw 922 haste, but apparently you logged out or somehow it calculates the additional 505 haste proc from Embrace.

Your gear and your spec dont match well. For Destro to be effective, you need more crit and probably more haste. Switch to 41/30 for now (which I see you did) and you will have better success for awhile. When your gear gets better, try it again.

Remember, post-3.0 we were seeing crit % for incinerates in the 50's and 60s. Yours was in the low 30's. That is a lot of missing dps.

I wish we could filter out which of these high warlocks is due to the bugged rogues providing extra crit to them, or the other various bugs found recently and which of them are actual WWS of legitimate damage.

I haven't heard of this bug. What's going on with it?

So my question is this: Looking at my WWS' and reading through the forums, I feel like I'm coming up around 1000DPS below what I should be:

WWS Loading... (Running as 2/13/56 Destro)

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Wow Web Stats (Both as 56/0/15 Affliction, my usual spec)

Ignoring the lack of a mage, ele shammies, and that the few shammies we have are usually not dropping Wrath of Air, am I doing something hideously wrong, or is my perception of where I "should" be just off? I see numbers bandied about in the 3500-4000 range, which I can do on Thaddius, but that's pretty askew. I'll take a run at PW in my Affi build, but I don't expect HUGE differences.

The World of Warcraft Armory

The only warlocks getting dumped into a group with rogues would be the few demo/dest raid leading warlocks. As no raid leader is going to put a lock in a crit group. If anything the rogues are buffing hunters generally.

I wouldnt worry a whole lot atm. I'd say you are doing fine, granted you still need some practice judging from your WWS reports. Your gear is a far bit behind people doing 4k dps, so I wouldnt put so much stake in the DPS number you are doing but more WHAT you are doing. Your aff reports on Patchwerk show your dot uptimes being questionable and you arent casting enough shadowbolts. Your gear being behind and crit/haste being low didnt help your Dest report either. The gear comes, so its less of something to worry about, work more on keeping your dots up, not clipping them and using the proper filler spells as much as you can.

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I'm trying to decide if I'd see a notable DPS increase going affliction and reglyphing.

The short and fast answer is yes you will.

The glass ceiling for Affliction is much higher than Dest/Demo atm. You are only limited by your ability to juggle dots and, to some extent, your connection to the game.

This is easily demonstrated in the SimulationCraft project.

I don't know what you meant by "raid stats", but my suggestion for the thread when listing stats would be to list only stats from gear (i.e. exactly what armory shows).

It just is easier to compare (and understand the poster's current gear level) without having to account for DK, Fel Aegis, DT, etc...and we all have access to the same raid buffs. Plus, a lot of us can't access armory at work =(.

Although I didn't quote it, the list of consumables used was also helpful as there will be some variance in potion usage.

Drain Soul. The damage it does FAR surpasses Shadow Bolt as a filler spell sub-25%.


Keep all your dots up. Remember Drain Soul's damage is attributed to Soul Siphon, which means letting dots fall off directly decreases Drain Soul's damage output. Keep those dots up, then continue draining.

Yes, haste is actually quite nice now with Haunt, Shadow Bolt, and Drain Soul. Not to mention UA and Immolate. The current stat priority order is: Hit, Damage, Haste, Spirit, Crit.

Just wanted to add that if you are keeping Immolate up, you STOP at 25% since it is not an Affliction effect.

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0/14/57 - Patchwerk
Armory

I was having some CPU lag during this fight which may have had a slight impact on my overall DPS but I've seen a definite improvement over the last few weeks. However I still feel as though I should be doing a lot more.

I'm thinking I'll probably try out a affliction build next week and see how that compares. I'll update this post with the results when I get them.

You didn't link your WWS?



Can people please stop just posting random WWS with vague comments. This thread is "WWS Help and Analysis" - the format should be more like "Here is my WWS for boss X, I have Y concerns and Z things happened during the fight that affected my dps, how could I have done better?".

Edit:
The above post is a good example of how the format should be.

I've been playing 0/20/51 and 0/41/30 all my wotlk raiding and now i compared my dps with some of the other locks here.
So I decided to go affliction since most of you are I think.

I know sapphiron is not that good for comparing DPS although its the only WWS i've got for now.
WWS for Sapphiron
My Armory Profile
I'm Yuuku and I got 3 icebolts during the fight (maybe no big deal but I used Air phase time to refresh some dots when others had iceblock) Also i forgot to DS @ <25% and I might have clipped some dots.

Glyphs on this fight was Immolate / CoA / Corruption
Swapped CoA for Siphon Life yesterday

So I was wondering if I have an Average DPS and also if you can give me some tips.

Here is what i did last night as meta/ruin

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Thought i did pretty good. Im using CoA/Immo/Felguard glyphs but after reading the glyphs thread ill be getting the corr glyph and dropping CoA.

You're right - Sapphiron's a pretty awful fight to use to look at dps, because dot uptimes can be screwy during p2 etc. The one thing that stands out is that your Corruption ticked 160 times and your UA ticked 30 times less - ideally they should be the same. Again though, that could just be because of p2.
The main thing that sticks out about your gear is that you seem to be trying to socket-match for everything, even +stam. Also, you have far too much +hit especially if you raid with a shadow priest or balance druid with IFF (which you weren't in that parse but still).