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Old 02/05/09, 2:09 PM   #376
NinjaSquirrel
Von Kaiser
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Kel'Thuzad
Is it only possible to achieve greater than 15K drain soul ticks if you are in top of the line gear, have the optimal raid make up, pop a potion and have another affliction lock in the raid? This last part is the main part that I am concerned with as I am currently the only raiding lock in my guild.

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Old 02/05/09, 6:07 PM   #377
Grimtale
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Warlock
 
Aszune (EU)
Time poor loc

Please help - I really need some help...

I was felguard spec and doing ok in raids and after reading dots and you on this forum I decided to change - I wanted to go from being a tap tap girl to being a dps goddess! I arrived at the raid late (been at uni doing an exam) but my dps seems to have dived rather than gone up... Im guessing this is either a not pressing the buttons issue or a wrong items / enchants problem

Here are the bosses I did (plague quarter)

Heigan the Unclean death
http://wowwebstats.com/d1pt2kkb1j1jo?s=363078-384439

Loatheb death
http://wowwebstats.com/d1pt2kkb1j1jo?s=388303-429075

Here is my profile
The World of Warcraft Armory

I know you all know way more than me so im after simple advise... can any of you brainboxes help me?

Thanks,

Fel.

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Old 02/05/09, 6:15 PM   #378
Emolate
Bald Bull
 
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Goblin Warlock
 
Mal'Ganis
You have entry level gear for Naxx10 and Naxx25. A lot of Heroic stuff, whatever. You have good Emblem acquisitions and rep rewards.

But you're not using Drain Soul when the target is < 25%, and you're not using a Pet. Or, you're using a Doomguard, and your DPS is actually 1000 DPS higher than what you will see on the WWS due to WWS not assigning the Doomguard to you. Regardless, if you're not using a minion, that's a DPS loss.

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Old 02/05/09, 7:10 PM   #379
Deceptionx
Glass Joe
 
Human Warlock
 
Stormreaver
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doomguards are dumb

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Old 02/05/09, 9:06 PM   #380
Phearbot
Glass Joe
 
Undead Warlock
 
Spirestone
Originally Posted by Deceptionx View Post
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doomguards are dumb
Doesn't make any sense... Haunt only hit 5 times, that means 60 seconds of the fight, haunt was up. Fight lasted a little over 2 minutes...

Can someone explain, that's less than 50% haunt up time, yet 7k+ DPS?

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Old 02/05/09, 10:32 PM   #381
Trickykid
Don Flamenco
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Turalyon
Originally Posted by Phearbot View Post
Doesn't make any sense... Haunt only hit 5 times, that means 60 seconds of the fight, haunt was up. Fight lasted a little over 2 minutes...

Can someone explain, that's less than 50% haunt up time, yet 7k+ DPS?
I see 10 haunts. Are you just looking at non-crits?

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Old 02/05/09, 10:51 PM   #382
Phearbot
Glass Joe
 
Undead Warlock
 
Spirestone
Appears so thank you.

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Old 02/06/09, 1:11 AM   #383
Tumah
Glass Joe
 
Human Warlock
 
Norgannon
Just did 25 man Naxx for my first time last night, I'm reading all the time about locks getting 4k and up on Patchwerk, and I just dont understand how.

I'm FG/Emberstorm (I know people are going to say that's my problem and that I should switch to affliction, but this has worked for me) with 15.35% (including talents) hit, about 30% crit in the raid, and 490 haste. I think my spellpower was in the range of 2.8 for the raid.

This is my WWS http://wowwebstats.com/gpdjcku2rybew I'm the only Warlock.
My armory The World of Warcraft Armory

I know the up time on my Immolate could have been a little better, and I realized after that I had forgotten to use my doomguard. I put extra effort on Patchwerk to see how high I can get my DPS, I even through in a 15 second haste potion that I had on me. Is there anything I can do to get my DPS higher then that short of speccing Affliction and getting better gear.

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Old 02/06/09, 1:29 AM   #384
zeroavix
Glass Joe
 
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Draenei Shaman
 
Arthas
Heres 2 of my latest WWS from naxx. Im usually the only lock in the raids, but im wondering if there's a way I can increase my dps on these fights, mainly Patchwerk and Razuvious. Im not using doomguard or infernal (forget usually) in these, but do they make THAT much of a difference from these 6k+ WWS I see from other locks?

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Old 02/06/09, 2:04 AM   #385
Grimtale
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Warlock
 
Aszune (EU)
Originally Posted by Emolate View Post
You have entry level gear for Naxx10 and Naxx25. A lot of Heroic stuff, whatever. You have good Emblem acquisitions and rep rewards.

But you're not using Drain Soul when the target is < 25%, and you're not using a Pet. Or, you're using a Doomguard, and your DPS is actually 1000 DPS higher than what you will see on the WWS due to WWS not assigning the Doomguard to you. Regardless, if you're not using a minion, that's a DPS loss.
Thanks Emolate - your right I did just have my pet on passive. I will make sure he is attacking the boss next time. I did try to do the drain soul thing but found that while I was doing that most of my dots dropped off. I will attempt to fix that for the next raid.

Many thanks for your time and help,

Fel.

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Old 02/06/09, 2:16 AM   #386
highwaystar9
Glass Joe
 
Human Warlock
 
The Venture Co (EU)
Hello,

I was trying out affliction tonight in Naxx, but didn’t really get the result I wanted. Seeing how people manage to make 6.5-7k dps on Patchwerk stuns me, as I was only able to squeeze out 5.6k with a doomguard. My gear is quite top-notch, hitcapped with 2300 spelldmg and 726 haste. I’ve studied people’s rotations in here and came to the conclusion that SB -> Haunt -> UA -> Immolate -> Corr -> CoA -> SL would be a good solution.

Here’s my breakdown:
WoW Meter Online - The Best World of Warcraft Combat Log Analyse System!Fully support Wrath of the Lich King!
and
Wow Web Stats (where doomguard isn’t counted)


Could anyone comment on that and tell me how it should be/what % the perfect breakdown is at? Only thing that looks a bit too low to me is the drain soul ticks, which I persume should have been higher (the number of ticks that is).

As for the other fights I’d appreciate some feedback too, if any, since I feel some of them turned out quite lackluster. The Doomguard was used on 4 fights (Patchwerk, Grobbolus, Razuvious and Kel’thuzad). However, while I think Doomguard is a nice little gimmick, I don’t feel it’s a reliable tool. It felt more like covering up for some obvious shortcomings.
And please, disregard Sapphiron, it ended up really messy due to one of the ever-present lagspikes.

Thanks in advance.

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Old 02/06/09, 2:34 AM   #387
xaoc.
Banned
 
Orc Warrior
 
Cho'gall
Originally Posted by Tumah View Post
Just did 25 man Naxx for my first time last night, I'm reading all the time about locks getting 4k and up on Patchwerk, and I just dont understand how.

I'm FG/Emberstorm (I know people are going to say that's my problem and that I should switch to affliction, but this has worked for me) with 15.35% (including talents) hit, about 30% crit in the raid, and 490 haste. I think my spellpower was in the range of 2.8 for the raid.

This is my WWS Wow Web Stats I'm the only Warlock.
My armory The World of Warcraft Armory

I know the up time on my Immolate could have been a little better, and I realized after that I had forgotten to use my doomguard. I put extra effort on Patchwerk to see how high I can get my DPS, I even through in a 15 second haste potion that I had on me. Is there anything I can do to get my DPS higher then that short of speccing Affliction and getting better gear.
1) Couple gear upgrades still available 10man nax etc. You have too much hit 289 is your target(with sp), throw a cheap perfect bloodstone in those boots till you get a upgrade. Belt too

2) No demonic empowerment ? its not even on the gcd, I break with people as I never get master summoner, if your pet dies you messed up just take the hit and promise yourself to be better, or know your going into a pet unfriendly fight and sac and run doomguard/infernal or something

3) Dps is a average over the duration of the fight, alot of these guys runing high dps have really short fights.

example
Premeditation did a 2 healer 25man nax on all but sap/kt where they ran 4 healer I belive had like 54 second anubrekan fight and that is basically a lust/speed pot full fight so ya their individual dps will be insane.

ps, I really don't like that spec personally. I haven't ran the numbers to see which is better for your gear level, I would advise you to go download simcraft (simulationcraft - Google Code) plug in your stats for the default values/spec/buffs and then run at least 10k simulations, I prefer to run 100k personally but I have dual quad core so it doesn't take anytime

and good luck



ps2: wowmeteronline.com > wws

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Old 02/06/09, 2:41 AM   #388
nuibank
Von Kaiser
 
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Blood Elf Warlock
 
Sen'jin
Originally Posted by Tumah View Post
Just did 25 man Naxx for my first time last night, I'm reading all the time about locks getting 4k and up on Patchwerk, and I just dont understand how.

I'm FG/Emberstorm (I know people are going to say that's my problem and that I should switch to affliction, but this has worked for me) with 15.35% (including talents) hit, about 30% crit in the raid, and 490 haste. I think my spellpower was in the range of 2.8 for the raid.

This is my WWS WWS Loading... I'm the only Warlock.
My armory The World of Warcraft Armory

I know the up time on my Immolate could have been a little better, and I realized after that I had forgotten to use my doomguard. I put extra effort on Patchwerk to see how high I can get my DPS, I even through in a 15 second haste potion that I had on me. Is there anything I can do to get my DPS higher then that short of speccing Affliction and getting better gear.
You dont want to use Doomguard if you have a felguard.

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Old 02/06/09, 3:59 AM   #389
Shannarra
Glass Joe
 
Human Mage
 
Eonar (EU)
Hi there,
I am posting on behalf of a fellow guild member. We are not a very advanced guild. We are 3/4 the way through Naxx 10 and have done OS and VOA heroic with some help from friends etc.

My friend has worked really hard on her gear but i can't help but think her dps is not as good as it should be. Not knowing locks i don't know about her spec, spell rotation etc so thought i would post here, ask for a little help, and then i can make some suggestions to her as i know she is keen to improve and i want to help if i can.

the lock in question is Fordawin. She has 1700 unbuffed spell damage but only put out 1300 dps.

thank you

Wow Web Stats

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Old 02/06/09, 4:09 AM   #390
Trickykid
Don Flamenco
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Turalyon
Originally Posted by Shannarra View Post
Hi there,
I am posting on behalf of a fellow guild member. We are not a very advanced guild. We are 3/4 the way through Naxx 10 and have done OS and VOA heroic with some help from friends etc.

My friend has worked really hard on her gear but i can't help but think her dps is not as good as it should be. Not knowing locks i don't know about her spec, spell rotation etc so thought i would post here, ask for a little help, and then i can make some suggestions to her as i know she is keen to improve and i want to help if i can.

the lock in question is Fordawin. She has 1700 unbuffed spell damage but only put out 1300 dps.

thank you

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1) Terrible uptimes. (53% corruption, 79% CoA, 38% immolate, 59% siphon life, 42% or lower haunt, 15% UA). Even with those low uptimes, she only cast 5 shadow bolts over the entire fight.
2) Didn't use Drain Soul
3) Didn't use a pet

I bet if you watched her on that fight she was not casting for 50% or more of the fight. If you ignore rain of fire for a minute, she only spent 50 seconds out of 200 second-long fight casting. Far more than 25% of her time should be on casting DoTs and Shadow bolts.

Sit her by a training dummy for 30 minutes and tell her to keep her rotation going while moving around now and then.

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