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Old 02/16/09, 7:57 PM   #421
dcpwns
Von Kaiser
 
Undead Warlock
 
Arthas
Originally Posted by Zakalwe View Post
6307 is actually really good considering the fight lasted for almost 4 minutes. If you've seen a lot better than that, my guess is they've been sub-3-minute kills.

Dot uptimes are quite good, the only potential for improvement I can see is your amount of drain soul ticks. You had 12 there - I can usually fit in 12 as well, but our kills tend to take around 2:45.
Anyone else thinking this is a little miss leading in general with the time it takes a guild to go from 25%>0. Like the above qoute where he got 12 DS ticks and in my 3:17 i got 14.It isn't that I don't know how to play or even that I forgot when to use it. I had 90% dot uptime on everything and I consider myself good with keeping track of DS ticks. But isn't there some possibility that even on a shorter fight the time saved on the boss is the pre BL time? Like your guild kills patch faster in the 100%>25% faster then my guild but when BL and 25%>0 we are closely even with each other?

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Old 02/16/09, 11:59 PM   #422
 Zakalwe
The Chairmaker
 
Orc Warlock
 
Balnazzar
Originally Posted by dcpwns View Post
Anyone else thinking this is a little miss leading in general with the time it takes a guild to go from 25%>0. Like the above qoute where he got 12 DS ticks and in my 3:17 i got 14.It isn't that I don't know how to play or even that I forgot when to use it. I had 90% dot uptime on everything and I consider myself good with keeping track of DS ticks. But isn't there some possibility that even on a shorter fight the time saved on the boss is the pre BL time? Like your guild kills patch faster in the 100%>25% faster then my guild but when BL and 25%>0 we are closely even with each other?
Of course there are tons of variables here and it's difficult to say anything on a general basis. I would never have commented on your 14 DS ticks in a 3:17 fight compared to my 12 in a 2:45 fight - the fight I was commenting on had 12 in a 3:48 fight, which is a huge difference.

Assuming a similar raid makeup and BL being popped around 30%, there's no reason to believe that all the difference between a 2:45 fight and a 3:48 fight lie in the first 75% of the boss's health.

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Old 02/17/09, 4:58 AM   #423
botan88
Glass Joe
 
Хелл
Human Warlock
 
Non-US/EU Server (EU)
hi guys
here is my WMO
how can i improve my dps? and i wonder why DG have only 800 dps, instead of last week's 1100 WMO

my stats unbuffed: 1993 spd, 362 hit, 13.9 crit, 614 haste, 425 spirit, 4t7


oh, i forgot to get food buff...but it couldn't give those 300 dps for me to hit 6k.

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Old 02/17/09, 12:12 PM   #424
NinjaSquirrel
Von Kaiser
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Kel'Thuzad
When reviewing my last Patchwerk kill, does every time I see "Patchwerk is afflicted by Haunt." mean that I let my Haunt fall off? I am the only warlock in the raid, so all the Haunt spells belong to me.

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Old 02/17/09, 1:10 PM   #425
Warlocomotif
Don Flamenco
 
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Human Warlock
 
Emerald Dream (EU)
Originally Posted by NinjaSquirrel View Post
When reviewing my last Patchwerk kill, does every time I see "Patchwerk is afflicted by Haunt." mean that I let my Haunt fall off? I am the only warlock in the raid, so all the Haunt spells belong to me.

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Technically- yes. But:
20:59'55.217	Patchwerk's Haunt is refreshed.
21:00'07.158	Patchwerk is afflicted by Haunt.
If you look at this, theres actually slightly less than 12 seconds in between those 2 haunts. This is probably the result of lag, and the real difference between the 2 might have actually existed. That is not to say that you refreshed haunt too late here, but more so that you were extremely close to refreshing it at the perfect time.

It is 'good' for haunt to be refreshed 0.1 second late, when the alternative is to refresh it 1.4 seconds early.

When it's 0.75s after vs 0.75s before- then yes it's probably better to refresh haunt 0.75s before. But seeing "Patchwerk is afflicted by haunt" really is not fundamentally 'wrong'.

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Old 02/17/09, 6:46 PM   #426
Darkmantle
King Hippo
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Spinebreaker
Originally Posted by botan88 View Post
hi guys
here is my WMO
how can i improve my dps? and i wonder why DG have only 800 dps, instead of last week's 1100 WMO

my stats unbuffed: 1993 spd, 362 hit, 13.9 crit, 614 haste, 425 spirit, 4t7


oh, i forgot to get food buff...but it couldn't give those 300 dps for me to hit 6k.
In the 1100 dps parse it did 109 attacks in 2:48, it also hit for an average of 1610 and had average crit of 3517.
In the 800 dps parse it did 99 attacks in 3:08, it also hit for an average of 1555 and crit for 3272.

I am not familiar enough with wowmeter to get right into the details but my guess would be a combination of luck and a missing melee buf. One possibility is the doomguard missout on heroism due to being under some obstruction when it was activated but since it should have been attacking patchwerk when heroism was hit that seems unusual.

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Old 02/18/09, 12:34 AM   #427
Clambo
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warrior
 
Khaz'goroth
I'm out of ideas and could use some help, I don't think I'm doing as well as I should.

WWS: Wow Web Stats
Arm: The World of Warcraft Armory

For these WWS logs I'm not using any consumables because I just got done power levelling blacksmithing to 375 and fuck I'm afraid to spend anymore money, also I'm a cheap-ass and nax doesn't need em. So yeah, any help would be much appreciated. My stats on armory are unbuffed, no stone or fel armor, any other info I'd be happy to provide. Oh yeah, I'm Cambo. (don't make fun of me for crossing charges on thaddius, mcaffee installed a update randomly and I locked up)

Last edited by Clambo : 02/18/09 at 12:44 AM.

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Old 02/18/09, 2:11 AM   #428
botan88
Glass Joe
 
Хелл
Human Warlock
 
Non-US/EU Server (EU)
Originally Posted by Darkmantle View Post
In the 1100 dps parse it did 109 attacks in 2:48, it also hit for an average of 1610 and had average crit of 3517.
In the 800 dps parse it did 99 attacks in 3:08, it also hit for an average of 1555 and crit for 3272.

I am not familiar enough with wowmeter to get right into the details but my guess would be a combination of luck and a missing melee buf. One possibility is the doomguard missout on heroism due to being under some obstruction when it was activated but since it should have been attacking patchwerk when heroism was hit that seems unusual.
ofc he got heroism, cause i popped him out before fight...

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Old 02/18/09, 3:40 AM   #429
Opposite
Glass Joe
 
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Gnome Warlock
 
The Venture Co (EU)
Originally Posted by Clambo View Post
I'm out of ideas and could use some help, I don't think I'm doing as well as I should.

WWS: Wow Web Stats
Arm: The World of Warcraft Armory

For these WWS logs I'm not using any consumables because I just got done power levelling blacksmithing to 375 and fuck I'm afraid to spend anymore money, also I'm a cheap-ass and nax doesn't need em. So yeah, any help would be much appreciated. My stats on armory are unbuffed, no stone or fel armor, any other info I'd be happy to provide. Oh yeah, I'm Cambo. (don't make fun of me for crossing charges on thaddius, mcaffee installed a update randomly and I locked up)
I'll only comment your gear and talents since I'm not that good at judging WWS.

First of all you have way too much hit rating. I don't know the particularities of your raid but it's safe to assume a shadow priest or a balance druid are present in a 25 mans raid just like a draenei. So there's no reason to be at 424 hit rating. Have a look on Spell Hit Discussion to see how much you should have.

Also, don't look to the socket bonuses. Just pick a Ember Skyflare Diamond and replace everything with Runed Scarlet Rubies.

As for talents: you don't need fel concentration. Put those points in Suppresion or at least one if you still need hit. As well as switching from ISB one/two points into Cataclysm.

Last edited by Opposite : 02/18/09 at 4:54 AM.

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Old 02/18/09, 3:46 AM   #430
Clambo
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warrior
 
Khaz'goroth
Yeah, I only recently got dying curse which bumped me way over hit cap, and am looking to replace all my hit gear, just haven't gotten the drops yet.

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Old 02/18/09, 5:50 AM   #431
Asmoddia
Glass Joe
 
Undead Warlock
 
Kirin Tor (EU)
Dear Warlocks,

I would like to have your opinion on this template 00/21/50; a template which uses the demonic sacrifice.

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warl...h=120204000000

Previously I have tried many other destruction or hybrid templates such as 00/41/30, 00/19/52 or 00/31/40.

I tried yesterday the 00/21/50 and I have to say that this template was pretty efficient:
- Your are independent from your imp
- You have a permanent increase of the fire damage by 10%
- Your damage cycle is pretty easy and flexible

PVEmaster gives me an average DPS of 5157 …far more than the other hybrid templates.

I wish I could have your opinions and advises,

Warlocky,

A

(Sorry for my English)

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Old 02/18/09, 6:46 AM   #432
Orgath
Von Kaiser
 
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Orc Warlock
 
Kargath (EU)
Your Imp is >10% of your total damage in a 0/20/51 or 2/13/56 spec (not counting EmpImp feedback ~5% more crit for you)
So what you are basicly doing with that spec is spending 7 points in Demo on nothing as the Demon gets sacked and 1 Point in Destro goes to Searing Pain for no DPS increase and no Chaos Bolt.

DS can currently be considered a situational Talent for deeper Demo Builds, to be used when pets are not viable at all or you have something worthwhile to enslave.

If you want a simple 1 spell spam spec, i'd suggest Deep Demo instead of Deep Destro but don't expect it to outperform more complex setups.

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Old 02/18/09, 9:40 AM   #433
Fatsummoner
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warlock
 
Mal'Ganis
Recently theres been a serious lack in DPS on my part. I havn't done any major changes to anything but i've lost near 500 dps. I havn't done any major changes, i do need to go back in a glyph though, i replaced siphon life glyph with Voidwalker cause i was trying the VW tank setup. =P (curiosity)

I highly doubt that it's going to amount to a 500 dps loss though.

My gear: Armory
Recent WWS: Wow Web Stats

Rotation is SB - Haunt - UA - Immolate - CoA - Corr - SL

I don't clip often, but i do sometimes miss a refresh of a dot by a second or so.

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Old 02/18/09, 4:20 PM   #434
gne
Glass Joe
 
Human Warlock
 
Twilight's Hammer (EU)
hmm

Dps 6535

http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/...tm_3fbf9a6.jpg

Combat time 2:29

Bit annoyed that i actually forgot to use doomguard lolz and my food buff had ran out and hadnt even noticed.

So i got that without a food buff or using doomguard. Impressive imo.

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Old 02/19/09, 3:26 AM   #435
Korah
Glass Joe
 
Human Warlock
 
Nordrassil (EU)
Originally Posted by gne View Post
Dps 6535

http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/...tm_3fbf9a6.jpg

Combat time 2:29

Bit annoyed that i actually forgot to use doomguard lolz and my food buff had ran out and hadnt even noticed.

So i got that without a food buff or using doomguard. Impressive imo.

Nice one - I got 5992 DPS on patchwerk last nite without using doomguard or flask

Armory - The World of Warcraft Armory

Glyph choice - CoA, SL, Immol

Pet Choice - Imp

Rotation - SB -> Haun -> UA -> Immol -> CoA -> Corr -> SL then obviously Drain soul at 25%

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