Leshrac89

Yeah, all the hit is because we have no SP or Moonkin in the guild atm, but also i socketed hit when i was low on it but now ive got some other hit gear so I'll resocket if i get lucky and get even more. And the stam socket is just for the Meta gem to work but whenever a better head item drops, Ill go with a better meta where I dont need the blue socket to match.
Ill check some other fight with the UA - Corruption Ratio but I think the 160-130 was just because Corruption is instant and i threw it out just before the Deep breath.

Thank you for the help!

 

Nicarras

Dont compare 'ticks' because of things like you said. Comparing 'ticks' is a nice way to go for a fight like Patchwerk or some stand and dps fight. But its best to just calculate uptimes. Uptimes dont change with gear You win a fight in 2 mins or 8 mins, uptimes will still tell you how well you played. A plain DPS number, or just judging 'ticks' isnt that great of a measure. They are good baselines, but if you are really looking to figure out whats going on I've found that calculating the uptimes, tracking them over a couple weeks, works very well. I'm tracking mine, as well as DS ticks, Haunt Casts and SB casts. Those things are just for an FYI factor as those things DO change with fight length.

 

Dinc

Here's a WWS from our latest Patch25 kill. The fight was much longer compared to some of the other reports here - 4:28. Infernal wasn't up since I used it during our last attempt but I wasted a few seconds trying to summon it anyway >.< Gear is 2 piece T7 (1 Heroes), various Naxx/Heroic gear, and a couple pieces of 70 raid gear. Glyphs were CoA, Corruption, and Immolate and Spec is 55/0/16:

Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

The World of Warcraft Armory

Wow Web Stats

4536 DPS - 4:28 kill time.

 

ImAShrubber

My first WWS report and faily new to this level raiding. I have attempted to studie many of the comments, builds, rotations etc and find this a very valuable site. I want to learn now to perform better and have actually been slowly creeping up the dps output.

What do these STATS tell you? (besides dying after the first two horseman downed:-) My current Armory. 53/0/18

Many thanks for reviewing.

 

Mindaika

Specifically this fight:

Wow Web Stats

for two reasons. First, I tried out a new 53/13/5 spec, which apparently worked great for the rest of the instance as well, but for PW I tried out the Doomguard, which was fantastic. But, Recount listed me as around 500DPS higher for that fight that WWS did, apparently due to WWS not picking up the DG. Did I just not see it in that parse?

 

Bessa

Armory Profile:The World of Warcraft Armory
Talents 2/14/55 (trying new spec usually 0/41/30) The World of Warcraft Armory

General rotation, CoA>Immo>Corr>Incin>Conflag>Immo> 3x Incin.....
Raid Stats:
~2400 Spell Dmg
+17% hit Aff
+17% hit Destro
25% Crit,
311 Haste [Armory in Profile as well]

WWS: WWS Loading...

Patchwerk speciffically, was trying a new spec, and only netted me a 100 dps increase over my old FG spec, i know i can do better as i messed up some Conflag timings missing the backdraft, but i cant see that boosting me to the 4700 other people running Destro are seeing.

Got my first piece of tier 7 heroic last night and a new belt which should perform better, hopefully my 2nd piece of tier 7 tonight, will the bonus help all that much dps wise? or should i be looking at myself in ways to increase my personal dps.

Also in many Warlock dps logs i see the buff "Demonic Soul" what is this as ive never seen it and looking on wowhead didnt reveal much apart from the spell tooltip.

 

Leshrac89

The Demonic soul buff is the 2 Piece set bonus from T7

I havnt read so much about 2/13/56 or in your case (2/14/55)
but im pretty sure that you should have Chaos Bolt and also full Backlash.

And my rotation on 70 when i was deep destro was about the same as yours now although i never started Backdraft with
Immolate, I threw the 3x Incinerates first and then refershed immolate, as i think one 30% hasted incinerate does more dps than you gain off the immolate bonus on 2x incinerate.

Also about adding Chaos bolt into the rotation aint hard, just swap it for an Incinerate whenever its up.

 

Bessa

Running numbers on new spreadsheet gives Conflag>Immo>Chaos>Incin as the top BD sequence so will try that see how it goes. Will try the copy/paste 2/13/56 next week and see if that is an improvement. Points i moved were some personal preferrence switches.

 

Leshrac89

WWS Patchwerk...

Again, I need the "how to 5.7k dps" Tips.

First Patchwerk with WWS so atm I have nothing to compare with. But anyway, I think I did pretty well although i totally forgot DS (started on 8%) and i didnt use an infernal.
Anyway the question is Why am I "low"?. Next week ill go with DS from 25% and maybe use an Infernal if i bother doing the quest But does it really do that much difference or does the gear limit me aswell?

Armory
Here is my Armory althought i didnt have [Gothik's Cowl] - [Heroes' Plagueheart Leggings] - [Cincture of Polarity] at PW

What I did have was [Forgotten Shadow Hood] - [Woven Bracae Leggings] - [Plush Sash of Guzbah] so there was some upgrades.

Any Comments will be appreciated!

 

Leshrac89

Was it because the raid wanted IMP HS? because i hate that, fuck the tanks

 

Bessa

No, i actually prefer 2/2 HS over 4% more Stamina

 

nikitabanana

A lot of people are using patchwerk as a dps benchmark because it's a fight where you stand in one place, is quite short so you get a lot of heroism skew that makes your dps look better then it would be on most boss fights, and just is fairly uninteresting in a lot of ways. I'm proposing looking at some other fights that aren't as say, intensive movement wise as Sartharion but still have a bit of movement here and there and more then that, are longer fights. Kel'thuzad is a fairly straight forward stand and nuke fight in most cases (outside of void zones and frost blasts but there's always going to be bad luck in fights).

So here's our KT from last night (our server sucks so raiding is rough due to lag, so we raid when we can and try to minimize lag since it never seems to go away). Post your results and I'll create an ordered list. Like I said, due to the fact that it's 3.5-4minutes for the quicker kills, it's a little easier to compare in a lot of ways. '

So yeah, to further help people looking at how to do things, post your wws, your name/guild, dps value, and if possible a link to your talent spec (mine for instance is what I consider to be the most optimal aff spec for my current gearset).


Kel'thuzad

12/11/08 - Rydya <vodka> - 55/0/16 - Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft - 5113 dps.
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• KingSpeedy

12/9/08 - Fyrgoth <Royalty> - 55/0/16 - Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft - 4205 dps

Wow Web Stats

Finally recruited a Moonkin, so next week I won't be CoE-bound, likewise a Disc priest so I'll get to play with the imp.

 

Mirtyl

Hi, long time reader first time poster as i read it often in this forum. And, please, forgive my english as it's not my native tongue.

Here's my wws report from our second 10 naxx week, i pulled 3185 dps on Patchwerk (wws does not take into account my doomguard who pulled 435 dps according to recount).

WWS

I know there is many things to say about my 3 deaths on Heigan (huhu) and some pretty low performances on some bosses but it was a discovery night for me.

I am pretty surprised by the low dammage percentage of my SB and the number of MC procs that seems low too.

Here's my profile on the armory :

Armory

I changed my gloves et robe today so i have a little bit more hit rating (but nothing significant) and a bit more spell power now.

Thanks for any comments inc !

 

Trickykid

Doomguards don't show up in WWS right now. Explains all of the warlock WWS reports without any pet DPS.

 

Nicarras

12/10/2008 - Nicarras <Death Wish> - 56/0/15 (standard) - 4071 - 4:19 kill time

Wow Web Stats

Armory doesnt reflect gear I had in the report.

Also, fight length greatly determines your DPS.

What we need is a DOT Uptime thread, to compare uptimes for fights like this. Raw DPS numbers do little.

 

Lillyanne

So this once again confirms that Haunt builds are great DPS. wow..I eally need to stop reading the WOW warlock forums and just post here.

 

Blacksen

Does this really warrant ANOTHER wws thread?

 

Mystearica

Wow Web Stats

KT 12/09 <Whatever We're Awesome> 4min 10sec

Mystearica - 55/0/18 - 4700dps

Feel your pain with the lag. Server is collectively called Lagtheridon. Often times we get 2-3sec delays between casts. Thaddius is fun when the everything freezes during Phase Shifts.

 

fane

hi guys

patchwerk 10man lastnight

WWS Patchwerk - Haroldbishop

i did just under 3.8k dps but i was running only 274hit (with a boomkin in the group). I was running 274 hit because I decided to test out some new bits of gear to compare my last dps run in naxx. I also picked up a ring as you will see from my armory so now my hit is bang on 289 so that should be sweet.

we dont have any other classes that contribute to spell dmg dps in our group so I am a bit of a lone ranger... i was wondering if 3.8k dps is ok considering no other buffs like crit from mage or ele shammy totems - or am i still falling behind?

all feedback is appreciated

 

Leshrac89

You did fine, I did 10 man yesterday too and was around 4,7k however the difference is mostly based on our fight length vs yours and gear i guess. We did him in just above 3 minutes so the bloodlust percentage is higher and so on.

If I were you, I'd swap some crit parts of my gear for Hit -> Cap and then get some Spelldamage or Haste.
However I'm not really an expert yet

 

Quadette

Hello fellas 1st time poster and long time reader.

Been checking here for some time and wanted to share the numbers on a demo/fire build im currently using, haven't seen really any good numbers from demo posted so here goes!


Boss: Patchwerk
DPS: 4636
Build: Demo/fire Wow Web Stats
Gear: The World of Warcraft Armory

Pretty much standard 3 dots: Doom,Corr. and Imo. while spamming incinerate.

Buffs: BL and [Potion of Wild Magic]

With hopefully the next tier set having more crit and haste on it these numbers should improve, making demo a viable raid spec for the future.

 

Nicarras

You should try and use CoA instead of CoD. I'm almost 100% sure that it should help you out, but would be great to see a parse of you just changing that and seeing what the difference is. [Potion of Speed] are what I use for the fight too.

 

Jhesus

4454dps on patchwerk -- 25man WWS

my armory

spec: 0/31/40
gear: couple heroic pieces, 4pc t7 badge/10man, and a couple 25man pieces.
trinkets: mark of the war prisoner, egg of mortal essence
glyphs: agony, immolate, imp
stone: spellstone on bosses, firestone on trash and in heroics.

for boss fights, including the above, i swap the forge ember trinket for mark of the war prisoner and my neck for a +hit neck (i forget the name of it). i trade about 2% crit to reach 310 hit. i have other items to reach the hit cap, but everytime i've done it my dps has suffered as it seems to trade too much dmg/haste/crit. with my current gear this seems to be the sweet spot (wish i could find a spread sheet that worked on my macbook....)...

also for the fight above, i forgot we had brought our moonkin back in so i was still casting coe like a nub. woops.

i've tried about a dozen different demo/destro specs since i hit 80 (haven't tried any affliction builds), and this one seems to perform the best for me rite now, given my play style and gear. this spec also seems to be the most flexible for me for all the fights in wotlk, including heroics. when i first hit 80 and we started running 10/25mans, chaos bolt builds seemed to be the best. once my gear improved i was seeing almost *zero* increase during boss fights so i started trying the hybrid builds, and they seem to have scaled much better.

however, after reading a bunch of other threads and looking at some other wws reports, i think i might be leaving some dps on the table. anyone have any advice besides my hit cap?

-mike

 

• Emolate

Try Open Office, it has had some good results at times. Or use Parallels/CrossOver and Excel.

You're carrying way too much hit. It's a wasted stat after a certain point, and you have a Shadow Priest, a Shaman, and Boomkin and spacegoats.

I'll let you figure out what hit rating you should zero in on. Hint: 3% hit comes from Misery and 1% from a Spacegoat.

AKA: Sememe (Alliance Paladin: Eitrigg)

[W From] [Ollivan] we refer to that as "fail" in the community