The only thing that I can think of is maybe casting CoA also to help improve your Molten Core uptime (but you mentioned the CoE thing so you already know this). Also the DoTs that you casted Immolate (87% uptime) and Corr (81% uptime) could be up a little more than you had them. Granted in my findings, dot uptimes for 80%+ are in the 'very good' category and means you are still doing pretty well. I dont think obtaining 100% is reasonable, I'd say 90% is perfect and your Immo was excellent.
Might consider re-gemming with + Dmg, if not in every slot then at least in those it matches. Also, why did you put that into your gloves?
On the hit rating.
Spell Hit Rating Quick Reference
10% - 263 Hit Rating
11% - 289 Hit Rating
13% - 342 Hit Rating
14% - 368 Hit Rating
Hit hard caps at 17% (446). Take it down 3%(78) for misery and 1%(26) for Draenei puts us at 13% (342) cap without talents. With 3 into cataclysm you start to leave itemization points on the table after 10% (263).
You should try and use CoA instead of CoD. I'm almost 100% sure that it should help you out, but would be great to see a parse of you just changing that and seeing what the difference is. [Potion of Speed] are what I use for the fight too.
Will change it up and w/ CoA and a [Potion of Speed] come next reset and ill post.
A lot of people are using patchwerk as a dps benchmark because it's a fight where you stand in one place, is quite short so you get a lot of heroism skew that makes your dps look better then it would be on most boss fights, and just is fairly uninteresting in a lot of ways. I'm proposing looking at some other fights that aren't as say, intensive movement wise as Sartharion but still have a bit of movement here and there and more then that, are longer fights. Kel'thuzad is a fairly straight forward stand and nuke fight in most cases (outside of void zones and frost blasts but there's always going to be bad luck in fights).
I'm not so sure KT is a good benchmark because phase one isn't the same for everyone. There are multiple targets to choose from.
Might consider re-gemming with + Dmg, if not in every slot then at least in those it matches. Also, why did you put that into your gloves?
On the hit rating.
thanks for the feedback guys.
i was being conservative w/ my +hit since our raiding crew was a little unpredictable when we began raiding in wotlk, but i'm going to start calculating each raid how much hit i need and only run that much on the bosses. in tbc i was a serious +dmg fan. in wotlk, up until recently, i had been trying to get my crit % up since it was pretty horrible when i hit 80. all my hybrid gems are green i believe, and i'm planning to replace them all with blue +dmg gems.
as for my gloves, are you talking about the enchant or the gems? i'll assume the gem-- i needed 2 blue gems to meet the meta requirement in my helm.... i couldn't find anything else better at the time. what should i be using?
I was messing up on the spell rotation due to not being use to it. Just switched to Destro after hitting 80. I lvled as SL/FG.
some feedback & some helpful tips if you can would be appreciated. thanks
My gear will improve once I do more Heriocs on non raid days & hopefully the drops will drop when im actually in the raid. Last night, all the gear i could of used dropped when I wasn't in the raid. my luck to be AFK and not in the raid.
Might consider re-gemming with + Dmg, if not in every slot then at least in those it matches. Also, why did you put that into your gloves?
On the hit rating.
Hit hard caps at 17% (446). Take it down 3%(78) for misery and 1%(26) for Draenei puts us at 13% (342) cap without talents. With 3 into cataclysm you start to leave itemization points on the table after 10% (263).
Ok, I get the Hit cap. But for raiding and currently I have 300 hit, Is that enough? I dont miss on the boss fights with the boomkin in the raid, and he always is. or should i keep getting more hit gear. I mean should i start stacking Sp instead of hit after 300?
Unfortunately that gem isn't in-game yet. Probably won't be long though I think.
Anyway, here's my WWS from last night: Kel'Thuzad Heroic -- 3502 DPS
You can see my gear in the armory link to my profile to your left.
Some comments: I was the only warlock that night so my Drain Soul didn't get as high as I was hoping for and this was a first kill so things might've been a little hectic but the uptime seems pretty good nonetheless. I got the [Item not found!] from Sapphiron just before and wanted to try it out because what I've read in the trinket-thread. It did a 2% of my total damage. It seems rather low considering how much people have been praising it but I saw someone else that had 2% as well. Am I missing something or...?
Also MC only procced 8 times during the entire fight so I'm thinking of reducing a point there.
As a last thing; I know that my gear isn't as good as for example nikitabanana but I've never once come close to 5k DPS as him or others (except for Thaddius but that's a different story). Am I doing something terribly wrong or is it just gear? I'm starting to think I've put too much into crit rating and need to put much, much more into raw spell power. Hell, even spirit seems better than it.
Unfortunately that gem isn't in-game yet. Probably won't be long though I think.
Anyway, here's my WWS from last night: Kel'Thuzad Heroic -- 3502 DPS
You can see my gear in the armory link to my profile to your left.
Some comments: I was the only warlock that night so my Drain Soul didn't get as high as I was hoping for and this was a first kill so things might've been a little hectic but the uptime seems pretty good nonetheless. I got the [Item not found!] from Sapphiron just before and wanted to try it out because what I've read in the trinket-thread. It did a 2% of my total damage. It seems rather low considering how much people have been praising it but I saw someone else that had 2% as well. Am I missing something or...?
Also MC only procced 8 times during the entire fight so I'm thinking of reducing a point there.
As a last thing; I know that my gear isn't as good as for example nikitabanana but I've never once come close to 5k DPS as him or others (except for Thaddius but that's a different story). Am I doing something terribly wrong or is it just gear? I'm starting to think I've put too much into crit rating and need to put much, much more into raw spell power. Hell, even spirit seems better than it.
First, wrong, there is a dmg/spi gem. It is green, but its better than some silly gem with stam on it. [Perfect Purified Shadow Crystal]
Again, dont get hung up on DPS numbers. There are too many outside factors that push peoples up higher than others. What you need to look at are your DoT uptimes, trinket and talent procs and then what your group/raid buffs were at the time. These things vary a lot for groups. Heck some people on here might be Raid Leaders and they can stack things a lil for themselves
Also your kill was 6.5 mins long. Some of our kills are pushing sub 4 mins. Thats overall more DPS from everyone not just a warlock...so as your kill time shortens, your dps goes up
Honest feedback on your KT performance is this.
You cast too many SBs
You didnt refresh Haunt enough (probably missed about 4-5 Haunts)(part of why your SB count could be high)
Your dot uptimes are in the 'good' category by my personal standards aka 75%+ If you could squeeze out 3-5% more uptime that would be sweet. I can usually maintain low 80s on my dots for KT (granted Corr is always a bit higher)
You could have gotten more DS in the fight, not much but a few ticks (yeah that one is nit picking)(probably why your SB count is high)
It is nice to see your Immo/UA uptimes are similar. This means 2 things, one...you are probably casting them together and thats good, and 2...you didnt have any of that Immo bug creep into your fight. I've been looking at peoples WWS's for that bug
Some of that is nitpicking but thats how I read my WWS's too, so thats how I slam myself each week too lol.
I'm hoping to get some brutal and honest feedback as to why our warlocks are underperforming so much compared to other classes. Following are links to the most recent WWS parses we have, though the server has been plagued by horrible lag at raid times.
Wow Web Stats 12/14/08 Malygos, Thaddius, Sapph, KT Wow Web Stats 12/11/08 Abom Wing, lag started towards the end of Grobbulus Wow Web Stats Spider/DK wing, plague didn't parse properly, lag was strong throughout the night.
I'm mainly looking for what I should say when I approach them about their performance, and more specifically exactly what they're doing wrong.
I'm hoping to get some brutal and honest feedback as to why our warlocks are underperforming so much compared to other classes. Following are links to the most recent WWS parses we have, though the server has been plagued by horrible lag at raid times.
Wow Web Stats 12/14/08 Malygos, Thaddius, Sapph, KT Wow Web Stats 12/11/08 Abom Wing, lag started towards the end of Grobbulus Wow Web Stats Spider/DK wing, plague didn't parse properly, lag was strong throughout the night.
I'm mainly looking for what I should say when I approach them about their performance, and more specifically exactly what they're doing wrong.
I'm looking at your second link, specifically Patchwerk.
The obvious things that jump out at me:
* Orichimaru is using curse of doom, instead of curse of agony or corruption, to proc molten core. You want CoA at best because it ticks more often and lasts longer, giving more chance to proc the talent. Further, I would put that extra point in destro into empowered imp, to improve the lock's critchance on destro spells. Shadowfury doesn't really have much of a raid application, or at least, its really situational.
* Lockdwn I'd suggest the same thing for CoDoom/Agony - No need to cast doom, use agony instead. No need to cast corruption either, if agony is up. As far as talents go, he'd be better served to switch to a 2/13/56 destro spec, since he is using chaos bolt (the spec could have changed since the WWS, since he did not cast a single CB the entire fight).
I'll leave the afflocks to talk to Grandpa's rotation/spec, as I've not raided as affliction at all.
I'll try and help. You should have them come here and read some of these forums, that would be a good start it would seem. Warlocks shouldnt be losing to shadow priests, assuming equal gear and skill.
I'm just looking at the PW parse for starters.
Grandpa - His casting rotation is wrong. I'd go into more detail, but this is layed out nicely in the Aff thread in this forum. He's casting SB too much, hes not casting Immolate for starters.
Lockdwn - Is some odd Destro spec, maybe not so much odd in that there are other higher dps builds that he could spec. The PVE Spec thread would be helpful.
Orichamaru - He is way below the hit cap, so while he is the highest dps of the three, more hit would gain him the 5% he was missing on PW. The hit cap thread would be helpful.
They can also just buzz me in game if they have questions too Maij.
Grandpa -- Doesn't cast Immolate and Curse of Agony. That's a huge loss. Also his spec seems more oriented to PvP with Shadowburn, Curse of Exhaustion and Imp. Howl instead of Death's Embrace which is really good on bosses.
Lockdwn -- Shadowfury isn't as bad as people says as it's very good on fights like Gluth, Maexxna and Anub'Rekhan, but as said, very situational. If not going for it, I'd suggest Demonic Empowerment instead of Empowered Imp, but that's pretty subjective. I think the Demonology thread has some real numbers. Also stated already, lose CoD and cast CoA instead. Seems to be very weird rotation overall. Just keep Immo, CoA and Corr up while pumping Incinerates. Drain Soul isn't worth it unless you're Affliction.
Orichamaru -- Probably been deep Destruction since I see Chaos Bolt. Again CoA instead of CoD. Cast Chaos Bolts alot more often, it seems he only kept it up for 1/3 of the fight.
Concur with the above post - picking on Granpa (as he's Afflock like me), he seems to have one foot in PvP - which is fine of course, but not if you are wanting to up your PvE dps. Hit Rating is under 10% in his Armory gear (not an accurate assessment of someones Hit Rating) - but that's low, especially as he's not talented Suppression. Haunt missed 10% of the time. Death's Embrace and Imp. CoA are other noticeable talent gaps.
He's also running +12 dmg gems... even the +14 dmg are practically free on the AH. Icewalker would be a better boot enchant, he hasn't socketed his belt, or enchanted his bracers, or his chestpiece.
Could be coincidence, but the WWS also shows him buffed with Pure Death of Shattrath, which I don't think would help much.
Not sure what Curse he casted either - looks like Exasperate is specced into Ebon Plaguebringer, so Granpa should have been on Agony rather than CoE.
Hey all, not a huge poster on EJ but a fan and a reader. Couple of links to the past 2 weeks of our Naxx 25 clears, my name is Iamminimal and with the links here I have tried two specs, ever since I hit 80 I was 0/41/30 (Felguard/Emberstorm incinerate spam) but last night I tried out 56/0/15.
Sorry to not have a Patchwerk for affliction but I figured that Instructor Raz was as close as I could get to another stand still nuke boss. Mind you, it was my first boss that I had ever had anything to do with affliction on since I was level 30 in gnomer :P..
I enjoyed the playstyle of affliction and was wondering if I could get some advice on my DoT uptime, starting rotation, fillers, etc.
0/41/30, I use corruption as I have the Glyph of Corruption, giving a Nightfall proc effect and still keeping Molten Core up as much as I can while still getting a decent amount of damage from a trinketed Curse of Doom for the cost of only one GCD rather than 4 or 5 in the minute of using Curse of Agony.
56/0/15. I followed Fallenman's suggested rotation as Shadowbolt->Haunt->UA->Immolate->CoA->Corruption->SL. As we had a Boomkin with 'Earth Sea and Moon' in the raid I did not see it fit to get the extra 3% damage on Curse of Elements so I think I put 3/3 in the corruption giving % chance to give haste or something and one point somewhere else, but that hardly matters.
I have early naxx 25 gear, no tier pieces, have yet to do naxx 10 but will start this week on PuG runs, you can find my Armory at The World of Warcraft Armory
Would be great to get some constructive criticism over how I went as affliction and how I could improve what I did, remembering that the Instructor Razuvious fight was the first ever fight I had played as afflic. Will post a Patchwerk of afflic after the 25man raid this Wednesday/Thursday.
Would be great to get some constructive criticism over how I went as affliction and how I could improve what I did, remembering that the Instructor Razuvious fight was the first ever fight I had played as afflic. Will post a Patchwerk of afflic after the 25man raid this Wednesday/Thursday.
From the look of it, you did well. I was going to suggest you consider Drain Soul instead of Bolting when the boss is under 25% - but from the bosses after Raz it looked like you started doing that. Also, if your Raid doesn't need Fel Intelligence, an Infernal for the last minute of the fight will add to your output too.
There is one thing I am curious about, from several WWS that I went through in this thread, especially of those folks that have high ammount of haste/damage, the contribution of shadow bolt falls in the neighborhood of 30% roughly.
This is what I had last week (our 1st official 25 raid after some break, that time I had only 200+ haste and 1,8K self buffed, not raid buffed, sp. power)
My SB is only ~ 20% of my damage, would it be correct to assume that 10% gap is ammounted to gear difference and maybe raid coposition? We do not have ele. shaman for example, just a boomkin.