Anthraxx

From my experience (WWS reports from 3 weeks of naxx) boomkin brings ~600 dps worth of buffs for warlock, so your reports are correct.

 

dcpwns

How does a boomkin bring so much dps to a raid.The only thing I can think of that they bring is the 5% crit seeing how the 3% hit is covered by a SP

 

rutiene

Earth and Moon.

 

Klades

WWS

A few things about this WWS.

My Armory: The World of Warcraft Armory
Spec: 56/0/15 with Malediction instead of Fel Conc.
With Fel Armor and the Fel Hunter out, I'm at exactly 2k spell damage. Glyphs are Corruption / SL / Immolate.

My hit rating is low, I know. I just can't get +hit items to drop (though I'm working on the badge belt.) Basically, that's the gear I've been able to see drop, not necessarily what I'd ideally wear, obviously. For the WWS above, I was using [Snapper Extreme], which left me at exactly 263 hit. (We have a shadow priest, but no Balance Druid.) I see a lot of missed affliction spells on Patches, but none on Loatheb or Grobbulus. The raid didn't change at all, so I'm not sure what's up there.

Still working on shoulder/head reputation enchants, and rare gems.

It looks like my dot uptimes need a little work. Just from looking at a few of the deaths/attempts, the uptimes vary from 85ish percent to just above 90.

So what do you think? What needs work?

Edit: Should add this was the guild's first Naxx 25, so some of these folk had just hit 80 in the last couple of days.

 

Drison

Wow Web Stats

Ok this my wws for all of naxx up to 4 horsemen. What im not understanding is I had a 1.1% miss rate and my pet had a 6.6% miss rate. That night i had 450 hit rating plus we had a shadow priest in the raid. So my question is how am I missing 1% of my SB and do pets get full hit rating from us or only like half our hit rating?

 

ShaidarLock

This could be an artifact of the immolate bug where clipping causes no Dot to be applied at all. WWS is catching the initial DD but there are no ticks that follow so it makes for weird numbers.

 

Trickykid

If you click on the entries, you'll see the breakdown of "misses" and you'll note that neither you or your pet actually missed at all. The 1.1% came from immunes/evades/etc, and your pet had parries/dodges.

 

Blacksen

Wow Web Stats

For some reason I just can't break 5k. I've been trying pretty damn hard, and I just can never clinch it. Last week I ended up at 4.8k as well. I'm running with a 55/0/16 spec, armory here: The World of Warcraft Armory

Completely unbuffed, I'm at 1852 spell power, 589 spirit, and 473 haste.

 

DiamondTear

Are you aware that castsequence macros do not benefit from lag compensation?

 

dcpwns

Two ways to do it one being fairly easy and the other being easy but not as easy as the first.Use a doomgaurd, plain and simple. Or time your infernal to one minute left in the fight to and you should break 5k. The first will not show on WWS because the doomgaurd wont show up as your dmg on it.

 

rutiene

Use an Imp, then an Infernal for the last 30% or so. Use a Potion of Wild Magic during Bloodlust. Your Haunt up-time could also be a bit better. (At 77.8% right now)

With your hit rating, you can afford to drop a point from Suppression and Cataclysm. MC has also been theorycrafted to show that it is better point by point than Cataclysm. If you wish to stay hitcapped with Destruction I'd go with something WorldofWarcraft.com -> Info -> Classes -> Warlock -> Talent Calculator

If you don't care about that 2% miss on SB, try this:
WorldofWarcraft.com -> Info -> Classes -> Warlock -> Talent Calculator

 

Mandalay

This does not hold true for conflag locks who deliberately clip the last tic of immol. In trying to calculate my uptime for PW I came up with the following calculation. Could one of the gurus check my math please?

Using 11.25% haste, fight duration(FD) of 317sec and my rotation of conflag/CB/Immol/Incin.

H_Conflag = (1.5/(1+(11.25/100))) = 1.35sec
H_BL_CB = ((2/(1+(11.25/100)))*0.7) = 1.26sec
H_BL_Immol = ((1.5/(1+(11.25/100)))*0.7) = 0.94sec <--- GCD capped = 1sec

Max#Immolcasts = FD/(12 + 3 + H_conflag + H_BL_CB + H_BL_Immol) = 17

MaxImmolDoTtime = FD - ((Max#Immolcasts * (H_conflag + H_BL_CB + H_BL_Immol + 3)) = 204.63sec

MaxImmolDoTticks = MaxImmolDoTtime/3 = 68.21

Uptime = (Actualticks/MaxImmolDoTticks) * 100 = 100%


Since not even my ego will allow me to believe I went 5min17sec without missing a single tic, I can only assume I have stuffed up the maths somewhere. I know that this model is simplistic in that it doesn't factor in haste raid buffs like Bloodlust, but it should be close. Any help appreciated.

Also does anyone know if the PTR backlash change allows GCD < 1sec (to mitigate the GCD cap clipping of immolate)?

1sec GCD cap Immol = x * 0.7
x = 1.43sec hasted Immol cast time
1.43sec = 1.5/(1+(y/100))
y = (((1.5/1.43)-1)*100) = 5% haste = 164 haste rating

which is retardedly easy to get these days. Thoughts, assertions or (preferably) facts?


Thanks and Merry Christmas

 

Tinava

My turn for seeking recommendations.

Patchwerk, the past two weeks:
This week: Wow Web Stats
Last week: http://wowwebstats.com/6ydjiwa3f6j6g?s=87311-122666

Same spec (as my Armory currently is set - 0/30/41). Others are improving by leaps and bounds as gear improves, I have only seen a slight improvement. Glyphs are CoA, Corr, Imp. Thoughts?

 

Hexy

Both show no corruption up at all, right there you're losing a bit of molten core uptime and a little damage. I don't see the point in having the corruption glyph either if you aren't making use of it, maybe trade it for immolate?

 

Tinava

Probably a good idea. I only had it since sometimes there was a need to have CoE up, and I was the likely candidate to put it there, so I kept the corr for MC uptime in those situations. That seems less likely now.

Thanks for the suggestion.

 

Nicarras

How is this different than CoE or EP?

If you dont have E&M or EP in your raid you should be doing CoE, if you arent then you are just being selfish.

 

rutiene

dcpwns asked what else a boomkin could do for the raid in terms of increasing its dps, beyond what he'd listed. Since he was replying to a post specifically talking about the warlock increase in DPS, I thought he meant DPS to the warlock in the raid, since otherwise his post would be completely irrelevant.

And the answer is, the warlock wouldn't have to use CoE since the Boomkin would be using Earth and Moon instead, and could use CoA.

 

baku90

Been doing naxx10/25 a few weeks, and would like some help which could improve my dps, my current spec is felguard/emberstorm , I usually have this rotation -> Coa -> Corr -> Immo -> Incinerate , but when I go with that, another fellow lock in guild seems to do more dps/dmg than me by spamming immo and incinerate.. whats up with that? I'm doing something wrong?

(Felguard, Immo, CoA glyph)

25man Patchwerk: Wow Web Stats



Thanks for help.

EDIT: Armory says im full demo spec, but it's wrong :P I'm still Felguard/emberstorm

 

Andanas

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Quadette

I am going to assume you are Baq as you didnt post a link to your armory. so this is what i get from the log and such.

1.Dont know if you logged out in pvp gear or not but armory is showing ya @310 hit rating (11.8%) this could be better.13% as an ally 14% as horde. dont be afraid to break socket bonus's on some of the mediocre pieces IE. boots and chest.
2.Dot Uptime. Namely CoA and Corr uptime is horrible. Molten core uptime is the key to this build.
3.Hard to tell but you might be clipping the last tick of immolate, be srue to use ever last tick if ya can.

 

baku90

I've got enough hit rating to reach the cap, since we always have draenei and boomkin or SP in raid.


but thanks, I'll try to get better on the DoTTing

 

Bessa

The hit is 50/50, as Destro your capped at 10% with draenei and misery/boomkin,tho your curses CoA/Corr suffer a 3% loss. I personally like to run 13%, but if im the only Lock there and have to CoE, i will drop to 10% to increase my personal dps, while only Corr Suffers.

 

Iamminimal

After looking over some of the other WWS that some of the Felguard/Emberstorm (0/41/30) locks have been posting I was certain that they were doing something wrong or I just got a little lucky.

Wow Web Stats

Have been trying out a couple of specs, Mhrdette was using 53/0/18 as affliction and was only using Haunt, SB, UA, Corr and CoD. I have recently tried 0/31/40 and hated it, lol..

Can anyone comment on things that I need to pick up to get into higher parts of the 4000's?

We were unlucky to not get the 3minute achievement as we did not have a hunter that put up the % AP and neither did we have an enhance shaman, for the 10% AP bonus, with that I believe we could have done it. Maybe next week.

The guild is currently 6th alliance and 9th overall for the server: Barthilas - Oceanic.

Would be great to get some comments on what Iamminimal (myself) did wrong or things I can improve. Ta.

EDIT: Glyphs I use: Corruption, Immolate, Felguard. I use CoD > CoA as CoD does more damage untalented and Corruption seems to keep up MC just fine, and gives me the Glyph of Corruption Procs. (equal to Shadow Trace of the Affliction tree).
I had no pieces of tier for this fight and the rest of my gear is stray Non-set Naxx25 epics and a few blues. (lol)

 

Mindaika

Drop Corruption and Switch CoD to CoA. The majority of your damage in this build is coming from Incinerate. CoA ticks at 2sec, over Corr's 3sec, so it'll improve MC uptime [see math in other threads]. The damage increase of CoD over CoA would be offset by the gain from a higher MC uptime more time on Incin. I'd also switch out the Corr glyph for CoA.

That's my suggestions at least.

Tastes like Awesome, because it's made of Awesome(TM)

 

• Zakalwe

I second those suggestions, they're exactly the changes you need to make. And two whoever advocated hit capping affliction spells as demo/destro: That'll rarely be optimal, since each hit rating beyond the destro cap will be worth only around 0.1-0.2 spell power.

For comparison, here's our Patchwerk kill for the week, without boomkin and elemental shaman: Wow Web Stats