Dots and you: The Affliction Warlock Thread - Page 11

Melbuframa · 12/17/08, 3:31 PM

Originally Posted by dedmonwakeen

What exactly is the buggy behaviour?

If it looks like a fix won't be incoming any time soon, then I prefer to add the same "bug" to the simulator.

SE only applies to the first lock to get the debuff up. So if you are running more then 1 aff lock only 1 gets the 10% bonus.

duhwhat · 12/17/08, 3:56 PM

Originally Posted by Nicarras

Yeah I guess I could have expanded my statement. Yes its ok to clip it. But you should not cast on CD, thats silly. You do have a window to refresh after that you should use to try and ensure it keeps your Corr up...meaning casting before Corr is done ticking. All good points.

To cast it on cooldown is mostly impossible, since I'm usually casting something else at the instant that Haunt comes off cooldown. The window when factoring flight time and reaction time to the cooldown occurring is shorter than 4 seconds, and most likely comes down to a split second decision to cast refresh a UA/Immo if they're going to fall off, cast and instant (Curse, SL, or Nightfall proc) or go ahead and eat the 2 seconds by clipping Haunt. I feel most comfortable clipping Haunt rather than possibly letting it fall off (and possibly letting Corr fall off as a result).

Vondem · 12/17/08, 7:57 PM

Just kind of interested in the glyphs section of this guide...

Does Glyph of Corruption stack with Nightfall, or should I replace it with a different Glyph?

• Nicarras · 12/17/08, 8:39 PM

Yes it stacks.

Vondem · 12/17/08, 8:48 PM

So how would Glyph of Corruption stand against Glyph of Immolate, DPS-Wise?

I'm thinking that the Glyph of Immolate would clearly outdo the Glyph of Corruption since the Glyph of Immolate is consistent whereas Glyph of Corruption is not, right?

• Nicarras · 12/17/08, 9:11 PM

Its listed out in the glyph thread check for more info there.

I use both since im usually the only lock in the raid, so i cant run CoA. I'll do SL/Immo/Corr.

Kabale · 12/18/08, 4:51 AM

DPS is definately related to fight length. For ages, I'd been hitting a ceiling at 5k DPS as we were taking up to 4 min to take down Patchwerk, but our Rogues decided to abuse HAT and managed to drop it to 3:03, at which point my DPS went up to 5.6k~. Missing an Elemental Shaman unfortunately.

krilz · 12/18/08, 5:14 AM

Originally Posted by Nicarras

Its listed out in the glyph thread check for more info there.

I use both since im usually the only lock in the raid, so i cant run CoA. I'll do SL/Immo/Corr.

Worth mentioning is as an affliction lock those are the best glyphs for higher DPS. CoA isn't remotely comparable. (sp?)

Raged · 12/18/08, 5:52 AM

I wonder if CoE is somewhat superior to Druid's Earth & Moon and DK's Ebon Plaguebringer because CoE lowers resistances in addition.
Can someone tell me if the DPS gain from CoE is greater than from the other two alternatives?

Namnalia · 12/18/08, 6:00 AM

Actually, this is not a question that belongs here, but the answer is no. Bosses in general do not have resistances you could lower.

Mystearica · 12/18/08, 7:18 AM

Am I blind or did my eradication not proc at all during patchwerk? Wow Web Stats

groin · 12/18/08, 8:55 AM

the best way to use the Infernal is a one minute after the death of the boss right? such as a patchwerk lasting 3 minutes, you'll use for the first two minutes the pet and towards the end (one minute before) summon the Infernal?

Cigaras · 12/18/08, 9:21 AM

OK I have a big question and I need some theorycrafting help:

I cant decide between Cataclysm and Molten Core talents.

If I don't take Cataclysm then I need 3% more hit rating from gear, that almost 5 hit rating gems (5*16=80/26=3,07%), so putting 5 yellow sockets instead of 5 red ones would cost me like 5*19=95 spell power, so there is the question, with is better, 95 spell power or Molten Core?

P.S. my rotation: 100-25% all dots available SB as a filler, 25-0% all dots except Immo and Drain Soul as a filler.

mocnor · 12/18/08, 10:51 AM

I have a level 80 warlock that is imo decently geared and from what i have read should be putting out more damage in raids. Here is a link to my armory The World of Warcraft Armory
I am raiding as affliction (55/0/16) with the Curse of Agony, SL, and Corruption glyphs on. My cast sequence is Haunt>Curse of Agony>Corruption>UA>Immo>SL sb spam and keeping haunt and dots up at all times trying not to clip themm except for maybe SL, and then using DS at 25% or lower instead of SB. I am getting around 3k dps on boss fights and wonder if there is anything i can do better.I also use the fel puppy and put him on defensive. I also only life tap when moving or completely oom or close to it. I raid with a warlock that is 0/30/41 imp spec(immo>incin spammer) i suppose and he is doing more dps. Is that spec one of the better ones because i haven't seen many people talk about it?

rutiene · 12/18/08, 10:55 AM

This is what you do: You calculate your DPS loss of having -3% hit rating on your Shadowbolt and your Immolate. Then calculate how much your Immolate DPS is boosted with Molten Core. I do this with WWS values, although it is doable with pure theorycrafting values, but your margin of error is increased because you have to make a few assumptions.

From my personal theorycrafting, putting 2 points into Molten Core is much better than anything in Cataclysm. You already have 3/3 in Suppression, since Cataclysm only effect your Shadowbolt and your Immolate, it really is not worth it to max hitcap yourself for both destro and affliction.