What he means, in optimal setting you should be casting CoA. Theorycrafting for million non-optimal setups is futile.

While 0,5 sec every 24 is nothing amazing, it will still produce more dps than Imp. DS, in optimal setting.

Hey guys,

Isn't this Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft the spec with highest damage potential for the hitcapped Warlock?

From what I've tested it is; MC provided better DPS than ISB, the Imp is superior in damage output than the FH and 1 point in Eradication should be more than enough for a consistent uptime.

What I'm slightly unsure about it demonic power. Is decreasing the Imp's casting time by .5 seconds worth 2 talent points? If not, maybe one could fullup Eradication or ISB completely, depending on which talent provides the best damage per tp.

I would still put my points in improved drain soul or supression instead of fel concetration, just for the fact that supression still gives you more dps compared to fel concentration since it lowers the mana cost of your dots by a bit.

Hm, I guess so. Allthough DS being broken by splash damage is even worse.

Anyway, I still wonder whether it's best to fill out 5/5 ISB and completely leave out demonic power, or go with 3/5 ISB and 2/2 demo power

I don't understand why we would even bother with specing out of Suppression. You should not gear for it, period. The lower aff tree is very limited in the amount of useful talents given you MUST put 15 talent points to advance past it. It takes 79 hit to account for the 3% hit you are losing(26.2x3= 78.6). Gearing for that seems excessive since your only reward would be 2/2 DS + 2/3 Fel Conc or 1/2 DS + 3/3 Fel Conc. 2/2 DS is a nonissue on bosses and Fel Conc can't begin to measure up to Suppression.

TL;DR
Suppression's DPS > any alternative given you must spend 15 points in the 1st 3 tiers of Aff

Amp curse might be a very little of use talent, but compared to one point in Fel Conc, amp curse would be a hole lot better tbh. Its not like your tanking while in raids.

Honestly dont know why so many people put 2 or 3 points into it, when they can be used for imp DS or suppression and gear more for spellpower instead of +hit that way.

Because you can get the Hit needed for 14% without gemming for it very eaisily without sacing much at all.

with the pushback change, i don't really see a reason for it to ever to really be needed honestly

How is amp curse better than anything really?

Like a previous poster said, you don't need to sacrifice anything to get hitcapped when you're at a certain gear level. Fel concentration is a better filler in that case. I don't have mana issues and if you don't need the hit from talents, putting points in sup is wasted, just like putting points in Cataclysm.

Honestly I'd rather have our spell range increased/talent moved up. The short range of our magical spells without destructive reach and grim reach is annoying.

I'm not quite sure how you could see it this way. You're always sacrificing something for something else. Not having to get that 3% hit means you can get an item that puts those itemization points to use with more crit/haste/spellpower/ect.

For the main part you shouldn't usually be casting CoE, try convince your guild that a Boomkin/UnholyDK would really be worth it. Past that, it's not amazing, but it's better than the alternatives (assuming you're CoAing).