Dots and you: The Affliction Warlock Thread - Page 59

Nnayr · 04/08/09, 2:41 AM

Originally Posted by RoyalBoss

Just a quick question I've been thinking about and tried to search for it a little bit but it's kind of hard to search for.

Do you need to refresh your corruption when the boss is below 35% for your corruption to get the extra 12% damage from Death's Embrace? Or will it automatically refresh with the 12% extra dmg from DE when the target is below 35%?

Thanks,

Shouldn't need too they fixed that in a recent hotfix i'm pretty sure.

kaib · 04/08/09, 4:00 AM

Every haunt refreshes your Corruption. If it didn't, you'd blow a use trinket before casting the first one and then 'roll' the powered up Cor the entire fight. Each time it gets 'reapplied', the spellpower bonus gets checked.

Yagamoth · 04/08/09, 7:41 AM

While I agree, that range is comfortable and helps in several fights (e.g. Heigan) I'd like to ask why most people tend to max out these talents. I've always struggled on fights like Heigan, Sapphiron or even Malygos without any range talents. By now I've dropped nightfall and put one point in both talents - The range seems absolutely sufficient.

As it has been stated so far: I'd like know which talent I should drop - I'm not sure whether nightfall was the right choice.

Zasz · 04/09/09, 1:38 AM

Originally Posted by Yagamoth

While I agree, that range is comfortable and helps in several fights (e.g. Heigan) I'd like to ask why most people tend to max out these talents. I've always struggled on fights like Heigan, Sapphiron or even Malygos without any range talents. By now I've dropped nightfall and put one point in both talents - The range seems absolutely sufficient.

I tried speccing without the talents a long time ago while raiding karazan and noticed that it did make a difference having less range. Besides the destruction range comes with a thread reduction which is always nice to have especially on heigan. I personally dont want to miss both.

The other question is, who is getting screwed? The client shows 6 yards for english clients and 6 meters for my german client. The difference is not much but still...

* international yard (defined 1956):

1 yard = 3 feet = 36 inches = 0,9144 Meter

Originally Posted by Yagamoth

As it has been stated so far: I'd like know which talent I should drop - I'm not sure whether nightfall was the right choice.

You dont really have to drop nightfall. You can always use the glyph. I dont have the talent but use the glyph and from the logs it looks that it doesnt affect the random proc. I checked with one fight 3 weeks in a row with 2 other warlocks and the uptime is total random. In one fight my uptime was higher than theirs and they have the glyph AND talent.

bpmhell · 04/09/09, 1:57 AM

I'm thinking a lot about the 4pcT7 bonus. But I don't know how to answer my question, perhaps anybody in here can?
1. Shall I take Life Tap into my rotation to hold the buff up?
(I usually do that, always after casting Haunt. I do it after Haunt because of the returning life i get from the Haunt before. It makes Life Tapping safer...)
2. Let's say, it's good for dps... I'm tapping in perfect rotation every 8 seconds. -> Are 2 points in Improved Life Tap wasted?
3. or am I only wasting a global cooldown instead of spamming Shadowbolts?

Eruantien · 04/09/09, 3:03 AM

Originally Posted by Zasz

The other question is, who is getting screwed? The client shows 6 yards for english clients and 6 meters for my german client. The difference is not much but still...

* international yard (defined 1956):

1 yard = 3 feet = 36 inches = 0,9144 Meter

I don't think it actually measures a different distance in game-feet and game-meters; it just uses whatever the standard unit is in the country of the language's origin in tooltips.

valheran · 04/09/09, 3:35 AM

Check "Value of 4pT7" thread for math, but tapping every 8 secs is clearly waste of DPS. Mind you, once 3,1 hits, tapping every 20 secs with LT glyph will be optimal.

Leenie · 04/09/09, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by bpmhell

I'm thinking a lot about the 4pcT7 bonus. But I don't know how to answer my question, perhaps anybody in here can?
1. Shall I take Life Tap into my rotation to hold the buff up?
(I usually do that, always after casting Haunt. I do it after Haunt because of the returning life i get from the Haunt before. It makes Life Tapping safer...)

If you don't have the 4pc this makes sense, but if you do, remember that haunt refreshes corruption's buffs. ie, if you continue to life tap after haunt, your corruption will never benefit from the increased spell power.

Kalle · 04/09/09, 2:20 PM

Originally Posted by Nnayr

> Just a quick question I've been thinking about and tried to search for it a little bit but it's kind of hard to search for.
>
> Do you need to refresh your corruption when the boss is below 35% for your corruption to get the extra 12% damage
> from Death's Embrace? Or will it automatically refresh with the 12% extra dmg from DE when the target is below 35%?
>
> Thanks,

Shouldn't need too they fixed that in a recent hotfix i'm pretty sure.

I just tested this, I still have to recast corruption, both on the ptr and on the (european) live realms.

Originally Posted by kaib

Every haunt refreshes your Corruption. If it didn't, you'd blow a use trinket before casting the first one and then 'roll' the powered up Cor the entire fight. Each time it gets 'reapplied', the spellpower bonus gets checked.

Yes, a spell power bonus is updated at every refresh. But Death's Embrace is no spell power bonus.

Aeji · 04/09/09, 6:24 PM

I've had the same results as Kalle on US live and the ptr.

Haunt will properly recalculate Corruption's damage when a change to your spellpower occurs, but not when you receive a flat % damage increase buff - e.g., Thaddius, Malygos.

valheran · 04/10/09, 4:05 AM

What about other way around? If I recast corr in spark / with polarity, and keep haunting it after buff is gone, what then?

Vodrin · 04/11/09, 4:43 AM

Originally Posted by valheran

What about other way around? If I recast corr in spark / with polarity, and keep haunting it after buff is gone, what then?

The corruption keeps the multiplier.

Tyrova · 04/13/09, 4:21 PM

I'm currently not a warlock, though i used to be. For school and for a friend, and a little bit of fun, i have been compiling and computing giant wall of numbers words and thought processes about the rotation uptime vs shadowbolt time etc.. I was curious where the right place to post a 5+ page wall of text on affliction dps is.

Demi9OD · 04/13/09, 4:40 PM

This seems like as good a place as any for Affliction insights Tyrova. Though at 5 pages you may want to link to an external website from here :o.

TogTogTogTog · 04/14/09, 8:23 AM

Originally Posted by Tyrova

I'm currently not a warlock, though i used to be. For school and for a friend, and a little bit of fun, i have been compiling and computing giant wall of numbers words and thought processes about the rotation uptime vs shadowbolt time etc.. I was curious where the right place to post a 5+ page wall of text on affliction dps is.

I would recommend something like http://docs.google.com/ and putting it on there. That is probably your best bet.