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Old 02/17/10, 12:13 PM   #631
Naforce
Piston Honda
 
Human Warlock
 
Frostmane (EU)
Originally Posted by Tinava View Post
You can stack Muradin's with rain of fire and hell fire pre-fight.

Unless they fixed that recently.
I have never been able to stack Muradin's with rain of fire, only hellfire. And because of phylactery, hellfire is no longer an option.

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Old 02/17/10, 2:23 PM   #632
Phayne2355
Von Kaiser
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Destromath
Originally Posted by Naforce View Post
I have never been able to stack Muradin's with rain of fire, only hellfire. And because of phylactery, hellfire is no longer an option.
You need only to re-equip the trinket to force trigger its internal cool down. It may take some effort to get the timing correct and some coordination with the act of entering combat. This is a trick frequently used to force trinkets to proc after ramp up mechanics are completed.

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Old 02/17/10, 2:47 PM   #633
Naforce
Piston Honda
 
Human Warlock
 
Frostmane (EU)
Originally Posted by Phayne2355 View Post
You need only to re-equip the trinket to force trigger its internal cool down. It may take some effort to get the timing correct and some coordination with the act of entering combat. This is a trick frequently used to force trinkets to proc after ramp up mechanics are completed.
Yeah, sure that would be very nice if I would know exactly 85 seconds before pull, but I really don't consider that a realistic option though. Muradin's ramp up time and the fact that phylactery only procs by periodic ticks still lets me get a few stacks though. Of course, re-equipping is the optimal solution, but I can't imagine it working out for the better of the raid very often.

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Old 02/17/10, 3:18 PM   #634
dallalr
Glass Joe
 
Human Warlock
 
Black Dragonflight
phylactery proc getting buffed in upcoming patch

MMO-Champion BlueTracker - Phylactery Underbudget?

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Old 02/22/10, 5:37 PM   #635
Burberri
Piston Honda
 
Orc Warlock
 
<G2>
Silvermoon
Muridan's spyglass stacks on damage not on spell cast. This is nice, in that if you SoC hits 6 mobs you get 6 stacks immediately. As HF and LT don't cause damage in the normal sense it won't trigger. So if you switched from IotDS to Muridan's thats why you can't use HF/LT. Both those still work with IotDS.

With Affliction you should base your trinkets depending on the fight. NMIC impressive numbers is based on stationary fighting with 100% time on boss and a "phase" change to sub 35% hp after 3 minutes. The further you move away from that type of fight the more attractive other trinkets look. For example, Blood princes. You have to change targets every 45 seconds NMIC is rather lackluster in this fight (Gunship also). But even on a fight like saurfang or putricide add priority is such that you may be away from the boss for more than the 8 second window a hasted corruption allows.

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Old 02/27/10, 3:41 PM   #636
angaroth
Piston Honda
 
Undead Warlock
 
Twisting Nether
Originally Posted by Burberri View Post
Muridan's spyglass stacks on damage not on spell cast. <snip> As HF and LT don't cause damage in the normal sense it won't trigger.
This is not true. I pre-stack using rank 1 Hellfire.

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Old 02/27/10, 5:18 PM   #637
Warlocomotif
Don Flamenco
 
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Human Warlock
 
Emerald Dream (EU)
Originally Posted by angaroth View Post
This is not true. I pre-stack using rank 1 Hellfire.
I think he's referring to health funnel.

The mind is like a parachute. It works best when it's open.

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Old 03/03/10, 4:32 PM   #638
Ragingpanda
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Norgannon
Using my wowhead profile for my gearlist, 3.3.3 patch and 0_13_58. The profile is all 264 gear as I won't be going into heroic 25 ICC anytime soon.
Glyphs were Immolate, Incinerate and Conflag.

Global options were as follows:
Latency Low
Iterations 1000
Length 300 seconds
Vary Length 10%
Adds: 3
Fightstyle Patchwerk

I included almost every 219+ caster trinket (including some healing ones just for comparison since they are mostly straight spellpower) that didn't have hit on them since between our set pieces and the ashen verdict ring its easy to make up the rest of the hit.


Trinket SimCraft DPS DPS Gain
none 10073
Fetish of Volatile Power (245) 10318 245
Nevermelting Ice (232) 10358 285
Battlemasters Ruination (245) 10373 300
Sliver of Pure Ice (251) 10388 315
Eye of the Broodmother (219) 10406 333
Sliver of Pure Ice (264) 10412 339
Althor's Abacus (264) 10415 342
Illustration of the Dragon Soul (213) 10454 381
Althor's Abacus (277) 10460 387
Flare of the Heavens (239) 10490 417
spyglass (251) 10576 503
Reign of the unliving (245) 10611 538
spyglass (264) 10631 558
Phylactery of the Nameless Lich (264) 10654 581
Reign of the unliving (258) 10661 588
Dislodged Foreign Object (264) 10670 597
Phylactery of the Nameless Lich (277) 10730 657
Dislodged Foreign Object (277) 10765 692

This isn't perfect as it's not a BIS list and my parameters are not default but did this mostly for my personal knowledge and figured I'd share.

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