Correct. The first page is still out of date as I'm still working on it. Things have loosened up for me now so I should have a lot more time to re-write the OP but since I'm putting a lot of time in it (the goal is to get it in to the TTT) it might take a while before it's up.

The correct rotation is COD -> Immolate -> Conflagrate -> CB -> Incinerate. Note however that some players experience lag between Immo and Conflag which might give you a second of "dead time" so you can cast COD/Corruption here or just wait for Conlag (hopefully to proc a Pyroclasm) and then put down COD.

As for Corruption or not... Corruption has slightly lower DPCT than Incinerate but if you still carry around 2pT7 it's still worth casting it somewhat. Once that is gone however, Corruption can be left out entirely (but cast on heavy movement fights).

I think on some thread has already been posted that it may be better to cast CoD after Conflag because of the Pyroclasm proc

I am not arguing with your results, but I thought the entire point of the rotation was to cast CB AFTER conflag, to have CB benefit from the possible bonus damage proc of Conflag (pyroclasm.)

In your rotation you are casting CB before.

Are we arguing rotation or priority? Starting rotation seems mostly unimportant when after those 5 casts its down to priority.

My personal priority: CoD, Immolate, Conflag, Chaos Bolt, Incinerate. I suffer from the immo lag (sometimes, it seems to go away with another destro lock in raid somewhat), so I generally delay CoD initially to between immo and conflag, and then afterword fill that gap with a lifetap, corruption (still using 4p T7), or an incinerate.

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Do you mean 2pT7?
I am doing the same, and I generally find that I can cast CoD as I run in.
Another warlock here slightly confused about glyphs, and am eagerly awaiting updated Destro post.

I see alot people use this CoD, Immolate, Conflag, Chaos Bolt, Incinerate.

anyone can tell what is with COE is it still usefull to cast?

Well I use CotE all the time... And for some reason I can't get higher dps when I use CoA or CoD (maybe I'm a twat :P)

The thing is, and I may be wrong, I get the feeling that Ebon PLague and Earth and the Moon uptimes aren't so hawt...

So I keep CotE up and do the normal rotation, without Corr either. That's how I got better results.

If you strive to maximize your performance you should only use CoE if there is no unholy DK or balance Druid present to keep their respective spell damage debuff on the target. CoD is the best option for us as long as the target has more than 60 seconds to live. CoA is also a dps increase (although a minor one) over no curse at all but I tend to not use it as I prefer the simpler rotation without it.

Also, when using the CoD "rotation", if boss fight < 1 min left, is it still worth throwing in Corr (some suggest CoA) as filler even if you don't have 2pt7? Ive tried both and the gains seem to be marginal if any really.

I think it is incinerate and conflag, with immolate being replaced by LT glyph without soul leech.

Re: 'rotation' - I have slightly higher lag than others and find that doing immo, CB, conflag, incin spam works best for me. I tend to have what I perceive to be too long between casting immolate and when I can cast conflag so I throw CB in there. The timing works out well in that CB is off cooldown about the time I need to refresh immolate.

Dagaves I think you may have misunderstood.
It is the Incinerate glyph that gets replaced by Lifetap Glyph in a build with ISL.
In a destro build your #1 glyph is your immolate glyph as it boosts both immolate and your conflag spells.
Just don't want anyone confused.

You are confused. The Incinerate glyph is always better than the Immolate glyph.

About conflag, are we doing this every time it's off CD such as..

Imm/Curse/Conflag/Chaos/Incinx3-4/Conflag/Imm/Chaos/Incin etc ?

Conflagrate should be put on CD as soon as it refreshes, without cancelling a currently casted spell of course.

With the changes to Fire and Brimstone I was wondering if it is still better to cast soulfire while under the effects of both heroism and backdraft or to continue with chaos bolt/incinerates?

If your Boomkin is alive and not afk then Earth and Moon will be up.

And the same goes with Ebon Plague and your Unholy DK. If you have either one of those in your raid, you should never have to even think about using CoE. Especially since while CoE can often be a DPS decrease for a warlock, those other effects are from talents which are actually DPS increases for their respective classes, and effectively cost nothing to keep up on the mob you're fighting.

It appears that krilz is banned. What is the correct process now for getting the original post updated? I guess the first question would be whether or not the ban is temporary. If so, then I'm sure he can handle it once he returns. If not, should someone create a new thread? Or, is a separate thread for each tree really necessary? We could always just combine everything into the PVE Raiding Compendium V3.1

I have an issue where my Chaos Bolt is not doing the correct amount of damage and is hurting my dps. I somewhat noticed it the other night just from peripheral vision noticing the numbers going up above the boss' heads after firing off Conflags, Incinerates, and CBs and seeing amazingly low numbers when CB hits. Its hitting for around 40% as hard as Incinerate is.

But my CBs, in a fully buffed raid-environment, are doing less than half of the damage that Incinerate does. My Conflag is hitting like a dumptruck as well as Incinerate, but Chaos Bolt is hitting for 2.5k and critting for 5.5k max. And my rotation is Immo ---> CB ----> Conflag ----> CoD ----> Incinerate. It is hitting with Immo up - there is no question about it.

I took screenshots of my Recount last night and will post them as soon as I get home, but the guy who parses raids for WMO/WWS is on vacation right now, so the screenshots is all I have. But this has been the case for a few days at least.

Actually, heres an old parse that shows it (I’ve upgraded gear considerably since this parse, but you get the point)

WoW Meter Online - Combatlog Replay

This is every single raid, every encounter, 24/7. My CB is limp

MarcAntony: You are using Rank 1 Chaosbolt. (at least in that WoW Meter Online log).

And this is why I waited a few days before posting this - because I figured it was something obvious or strange like this. Its definately bugged then. I noticed last night after raid that when I do not have "Show all spell ranks" selected that the option it gives for CB is rnk1. But then when I select the show all ranks option I can see 1-3 and pull 3 onto the hotbar and fired a couple mobs and the damage didn't increase so I mistakenly scratched that off as the reason for the discrepancy. It would appear I am unable to access anything except rnk1 CB.

Could be a keybindings issue I suppose. Either way, I'll open a ticket about it if I can't fix it. Gracias