
Originally Posted by Jaradakar
I've not had a chance to test, but in the old days (BC) you could sac your pet with Demonic Sacrifice and gain the buff and then summon Infernal/Doomguard and have the best of both worlds. Assuming this is still the case, the question would be:
1) Do you need Demonic Sac to make using Infernal or Doomguard with demonology build worth while?
Of course you are correct some talents don't work with non-standard demons. I've not had a chance to test but I plan on respecing to get demonic sac (going to sack a Felguard) and try running with the combination with a doom guard to see what type of dps I can put out.
So from someones comment about Improved Enslave demon, it sounds like both Fel and Doom start off with the enslavement debuff but by having the talent Improved Enslave increases the dps of the special demons, is that true? If it is, I have to agree with one of the posters above, not sure 2 talent points is worth the short up time that you have those demons...
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Okay so I did a quick test last night. Doomguard is 15 mins and after that time (or if you summon a new pet) he just despawns!! So much nicer! The Doom & Infernal start with an enslaved debuff on them so if you do have the Improved Enslave Demon, it will increase these two pets dps.
Despite the fact that imo a demonologist spec warlock should be the best at using these two high end pets, it's currently exactly the opposite.
You lose the master demonologist buff, now if you have demonic sac this might make up for that loss, but you also lose demonic knowledge and I'm going to take a guess that the spell damage loss is not made up by the Doomguards damage. I'll try to get some numbers soonish. If anyone else gathers some dps statistics please post, as I'd be curious what the results are.
So I think summoning a doomguard is more a move for Destruction or Affliction locks (sadly).