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Old 09/16/09, 6:58 PM   1 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #451
vsop
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Gilneas
Originally Posted by pelux View Post
For Excel 2007:
1 - Click the Microsoft Office Button, click Excel Options, and then click the Formulas category.
2 - In the Calculation options section, select the Enable iterative calculation check box.

The default values for Maximum iterations and Maximum change should be fine.

Perhaps this can be added to the Beginner's Guide on the Sheet Home Page?

Thank you so much. Now I can totally geek out at work.
 
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Old 09/17/09, 2:43 PM   #452
Dalmasca
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Duskwood
Originally Posted by zeroavix View Post
Anyone know if anyone has put in the t9 2pc/4pc values yet? Atm im just going off the basis that if my dps is within 220~ with my 2pc on of what i had with previous pieces then the 2pc is worth it.
From what I can tell, the T9 bonuses are not active yet in the spreadsheet, but I have found similar results of a ~200 dps increase from 4pc-T8.5 to 2pc-T9.0

In addition, with some favorable RNG, you might potentially notice a high burst difference between the two. Think of it as the lock version of Hot-Streak, but for your imp, lol. Mages will be green with envy... or chaos bolts to the face.
 
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Old 09/17/09, 9:07 PM   #453
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Staghelm
Originally Posted by pelux View Post
For Excel 2007:
1 - Click the Microsoft Office Button, click Excel Options, and then click the Formulas category.
2 - In the Calculation options section, select the Enable iterative calculation check box.

The default values for Maximum iterations and Maximum change should be fine.

Perhaps this can be added to the Beginner's Guide on the Sheet Home Page?
I am still getting #### on a couple items like the Talisman of Volatile Power.... I'm also not entirely sure what the two columns are even for. The DPS column and Hit column.... does anyone care to explain (sorry for being a nub with the spreadsheet). I also find it strange that some items are inconsistent... example: most items are default normal versions, however the Talisman of Volatile power is the heroic version

Also, the trinket: Flare of Heavens does not have the correct value of crit on it.

another question i have is whether the dps values for the trinkets are accurate.... I'm not seeing any values listed for procs... Its very strange to see the scaling of stats listing spell power being worth 2x other stats, yet Talisman of Volatile Power is listed as a HUGE dps increase over Scale of fates.... 125sp < 126crit?

sorry for the big post
 
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Old 09/21/09, 1:14 PM   #454
Marklar
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Uldum
Since Duffry seems to be busy at the moment, I have posted a developmental version on the spreadsheet wiki, with support for T9 bonuses and implementation of the patch 3.2 empowered imp changes, along with a few bug fixes.

Warlock DPS Spreadsheet : Developmental_variants
 
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Old 09/21/09, 1:26 PM   #455
Mordekhuul
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Terenas
Originally Posted by Marklar View Post
Since Duffry seems to be busy at the moment, I have posted a developmental version on the spreadsheet wiki, with support for T9 bonuses and implementation of the patch 3.2 empowered imp changes, along with a few bug fixes.

Warlock DPS Spreadsheet : Developmental_variants
After entering my character name, region, and server, I go to the gear_buffs sheet and click "Load from Armory". I get a pop-up error window reading:

Run-time error '91':

Object variable or With block variable not set
It only partially loads the gear.

Stand in the fire? CHAOS BOLT!
 
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Old 09/21/09, 1:33 PM   #456
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Eonar (EU)
Originally Posted by Marklar View Post
Since Duffry seems to be busy at the moment, I have posted a developmental version on the spreadsheet wiki, with support for T9 bonuses and implementation of the patch 3.2 empowered imp changes, along with a few bug fixes.

Warlock DPS Spreadsheet : Developmental_variants
Thanks for this Marklar.

I doubt anyone follows my site but any who do might have seen that it's been a bit of a weird time for me recently. This is now on the up with time to work on this project opening up again. I've not forgotten the sheet though and have been looking over the things that need doing with a mind to addressing them (or some of them at least) this week. It's been too long without an update especially with so many things left half done. Sorry to all for the hassle.

I'll try and pick out the changes from the version above and include them as appropriate but if you have a changelog that would help.
 
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Old 09/21/09, 7:16 PM   #457
Marklar
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Uldum
Originally Posted by Mordekhuul View Post
After entering my character name, region, and server, I go to the gear_buffs sheet and click "Load from Armory". I get a pop-up error window reading:
It seems the new lines for the OH gem socket broke the gear loaders. Fixed in new version, download link replaced.
 
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Old 09/22/09, 11:42 AM   #458
Aer
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Draka
Using Marklar's latest developmental version, I loaded my gear from the Armory and tried to save it to one of the custom gear sets, but locked Excel in an endless loop. I tracked the problem down to the VBA code for the Save Item Set button. The Save_item_set subprocedure is missing code that temporarily disable automatic recalculations. These 2 lines of code can be copy/pasted from the Load_item_set subprocedure to the Save_item_set sub. This fixed the problem for me.

Line 148 in Load_item_set inserted as Line 169 in Save_item_set:
    Application.Calculation = xlCalculationManual
Line 161 in Load_item_set inserted as Line 169 in Save_item_set:
    Application.Calculation = xlCalculationAutomatic
 
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Old 09/22/09, 1:58 PM   #459
Aer
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Draka
Now I am also getting the same Run-time error '91' as Mordekhuul when I click the Load From Armory button in the warlock_dps_v320a.marklar1.xls file.
 
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Old 09/22/09, 2:04 PM   #460
Zaeolos
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Blood Elf Warlock
 
Kilrogg
I believe it may be because the armory is down or something. I get the same thing with the warlock_dps_v320a version.

After checking things out a little more. The item-info.xml page on the Armory is not returning any data. This is causing the issue.

Last edited by Zaeolos : 09/22/09 at 2:26 PM.
 
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Old 09/22/09, 5:31 PM   #461
Marklar
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Originally Posted by Aer View Post
Using Marklar's latest developmental version, I loaded my gear from the Armory and tried to save it to one of the custom gear sets, but locked Excel in an endless loop. I tracked the problem down to the VBA code for the Save Item Set button. The Save_item_set subprocedure is missing code that temporarily disable automatic recalculations.
While it never locked up on me, the save macro was extremely slow. Good catch, implemented in new version.

Also according to Ghostcrawler, the T9 4pc bonus is fixed now. It's not confirmed on live yet, but I've put the change in for now. If it turns out to be wrong, I'll take it back out.

New version posted.
 
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Old 10/01/09, 3:50 PM   #462
cynics
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Frostwolf
Originally Posted by Marklar View Post
While it never locked up on me, the save macro was extremely slow. Good catch, implemented in new version.

Also according to Ghostcrawler, the T9 4pc bonus is fixed now. It's not confirmed on live yet, but I've put the change in for now. If it turns out to be wrong, I'll take it back out.

New version posted.

Thanks for the update Mark.

one question i am seeing a bug or some sort of DPS discrepancy when I use the "Talent" Dropdown loader on the "DPS" page.

For example if i leave that page untouched using the default gear and stats you have saved it is 8145.07 DPS for the spec 0/13/58. however it if hit the load button for the exact same spec it drops down to 6744.18.

i am not sure if it is a bug or not but might want to take a look as i tried looking at the hidden pages to see what was a miss but was unable to find anything.
 
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Old 10/01/09, 8:45 PM   #463
Aaliyäh
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Blood Elf Warlock
 
Boulderfist (EU)
Originally Posted by cynics View Post
one question i am seeing a bug or some sort of DPS discrepancy when I use the "Talent" Dropdown loader on the "DPS" page.
This is because the glyphs are reset.
 
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Old 10/01/09, 10:30 PM   #464
cynics
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Frostwolf
Originally Posted by Aaliyäh View Post
This is because the glyphs are reset.
Well Played!

thanks i swear i looked at that page and it was fine, but you are 100% correct. THANKS!
 
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Old 10/02/09, 12:02 AM   #465
kenneth20001
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Human Warlock
 
Mal'Ganis (EU)
•Enchant Weapon - Black Magic now cause your harmful spells to sometimes increase haste rating by 250.

will it not be better in 63 sp or 81 sp now and dps will go up? on p3.3

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Old 10/02/09, 6:54 AM   #466
Anthraxx
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Mazrigos (EU)
For a destro lock (rough numbers SP=1.56 Haste=1.15):

63 sp on 1-hander - weight 98,28
Haste needed to match that - 98.28/1.15 = 85.46.
Enchant uptime needed to match that - 86.46/250 = ~34%.

Seems a lot if you ask me. In fact, it should be maybe 40% (pure guesstimate) to cover for "wasted" procs (during transitions etc.).
 
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Old 10/07/09, 2:16 PM   #467
dazmar
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Gnome Warlock
 
Kil'Jaeden
I have noticed 3 items in my gear set are 'not supported' in the spreadsheet, and I must use the custom item.

Felspark Bindings (232)
Polished Dragonslayer's Signet
Symbol of Transgression (245)

Not sure if you keep a list to add on the next version, so if you do, here are 3.
 
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Old 10/07/09, 2:19 PM   #468
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The item list is my main concern for updates at the moment.
 
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Old 10/08/09, 2:13 AM   #470
vl0071
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Gnome Warlock
 
Nagrand
Thanks for doing this guys.

Mark I have a question regarding the spreadsheet. Is the calculation for the talisman of volatile power correct? According to the spreadsheet, the talisman would add approximately 200dps over my scales of fate with my current gear. This is unusually high.
 
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Old 10/08/09, 5:58 PM   #471
Marklar
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Originally Posted by vl0071 View Post
Thanks for doing this guys.

Mark I have a question regarding the spreadsheet. Is the calculation for the talisman of volatile power correct? According to the spreadsheet, the talisman would add approximately 200dps over my scales of fate with my current gear. This is unusually high.
The official version of the spreadsheet incorrectly implements the proc for talisman/fetish of volatile power as 100% uptime (ie 512 static haste). The proc from reign of the dead/unliving is also missing.
Both of these trinkets (including normal and heroic versions) are modeled in my latest developmental version.

I have released a new developmental version with a large number of new items from Onyxia and ToC, as well as more bug fixes. You can find it on Duffry's spreadsheet wiki here.
 
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Old 10/09/09, 11:52 AM   #472
Serok
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Orc Warlock
 
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I noticed an bug with the spreadsheet. I use the Sunreaver Disciple's Blade. When I select the 10N version (which is what I have) the spreadsheet will automatically switch it to the 25N version.
 
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Old 10/09/09, 12:11 PM   #473
Naforce
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Originally Posted by Serok View Post
I noticed an bug with the spreadsheet. I use the Sunreaver Disciple's Blade. When I select the 10N version (which is what I have) the spreadsheet will automatically switch it to the 25N version.
there is no such weapon from 25man. There is however another one with the same name from 10H!
 
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Old 10/09/09, 1:50 PM   #474
Syrophenikan
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That's because 10h and 25n have the same iLevel, hence why you see it that way on the spreadsheet.
 
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Old 10/09/09, 1:55 PM   #475
Marklar
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Originally Posted by Serok View Post
I noticed an bug with the spreadsheet. I use the Sunreaver Disciple's Blade. When I select the 10N version (which is what I have) the spreadsheet will automatically switch it to the 25N version.
Fixed. Sunreaver Disciple's Blade should be properly distinguished from Sunreaver Disciple's Blade (heroic). Also fixed a typo in crit calculations. Download has been updated.
 
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