TheRabidSniper

I was having problems with this just last night. Between the switch from his body back to his right arm, he ran off the edge of the map and despawned. Several guildmates made fun of my pet. =<




Avoidance is not working on many of the AEs in the instance: Light Bomb, Tympanic Tantrum (sometimes; very buggy), Firey Runes.

 

Andoron

[quote=TheRabidSniper;1208151]I was having problems with this just last night. Between the switch from his body back to his right arm, he ran off the edge of the map and despawned. Several guildmates made fun of my pet. =<

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For what it is worth my felguard never had a problem with this last night. I had mine on defensive, what was yours on?

Also for what it is worth I had 2 guildies fall off the edge by the boss last night. I'd gladly trade you that issue for your pet issue. One was even tanking the rubble adds at the time.

Also, correct me if i'm wrong but I didn't think that aviodance worked on targeted spells like the Fiery Rune. My FG died to KT's Void Zones a couple times and I felt like a noob.

 

TheRabidSniper

It was on Passive. I've been micromanaging the guy since fairly early on when I noticed most AE-type abillities smushing him.

And I hear ya... A tank in a friend's guild Charged in, forgot he had auto-run on, and slipped off the edge. >.>

 

corsair

FWIW, I was draining soul on the dummy, walked away from it (so drain soul was no longer casting), and I still had random drain soul damage going off on it. I think the last dot went off about 15 seconds after I had left.

 

Fnords

The same pet pathing bug causes pets on defensive to stand underneath Razorscale when she's airbourne. This causes problems as most of the time her devouring flame goes on the target nearest to the middle of her hitbox, which can cause devouring flames cast near the ground phase to get in the way of the melee. I've personally started leaving my imp shifted and passive near the harpoons to slightly increase the survivability of the mage doing our launching.

 

Warlocomotif

I should've probably posted here originally, anyway. There's a problem with Demonic pact not proccing properly, seemingly related to Prayer of Spirit. For more info/some sample data see:

World of Warcraft (en) Forums -> Demonic Pact not proccing

I'd really like for anyone with a demonic pact spec to try have a look at their WWS and perhaps also post it. And if someone could find out what exactly causes the problem that'd be great.

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TheRabidSniper

I read about this yesterday and did some preliminary testing. I'll do more extensive testing today, if people would like me to. Feel free to PM.

I'm not going to bother to post the WWS, since for every test, all crits procced/refreshed DP.

What I tried:

Fully unbuffed (not even Fel Armor, nor Fire-/Spellstone). All tests ran for one minute only.

- priest out of party; DS cast on me
- priest out of party; DS cast on pet
- priest in party; PoS
- converted to raid
- PoS re-cast
- priest kicked from raid
- priest added back to raid (same party); PoS re-cast
- priest changed to second party of raid
- PoS re-cast


Edit:
NOTE: this was with a priest who had not previously been specced into ImpDS.
NOTE: the priest was only level 72; if they get a higher rank of PoS in later levels, that was not tested

 

Siph

I too noticed some issues with Demonic Pact last week, so I started paying closer attention to it. I can confirm the bug being somehow related to Prayer of Spirit.

However, I also noticed something weird about it not proccing on certain targets. I started paying attention to it on dozens of Freya 25 tries (fully raidbuffed). Demonic Pact NEVER appeared when my pet critted on Freya, but it appeared everytime when my pet did a crit on any of the 6 or so different adds in the fight.

 

Warlocomotif

I've finally gotten a blue response to the issue, lets hope they can figure out exactly what's causing it.

Until then though it'd be good if we could figure out what *exactly* causes the problem. Do you have a wws of that siph?

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Leibniz

A guildmate and I discovered an interesting bug in Haunt that I haven't been able to find mention of anywhere. It appears Haunt will occasionally return twice the life it should when it is the killing blow or the target otherwise dies while the debuff is being applied. This actually appears in the combat log as two separate returns of Haunt from the same target.

My intuition is that it is some sort of server-client latency issue (hence it's very intermittent). It is very easy to reproduce by killing low-level NPCs with a single cast of Haunt but testing it on higher level mobs to determine the exact parameters of when this bug can be triggered has been difficult. On targets I can 1-shot with Haunt it appears to happen roughly once every 5 or 6 casts.

Has anyone else noticed this issue, and is this a known issue I've somehow completely missed discussion of?

 

Nap

New one tonight. Didn't see anything posted here yet, but repeated it three times tonight.

1. Cast Soulstone
2. Change Talent Sets (Activate Secondary)
3. Soulstone fades on target.
4. SS Cooldown unchanged.

So it seems that if you cast SS in one talent set, then swap to the other set, the SS fades on your target (perhaps it is the same mechanism as leaving a group). So if you juggle specs to get 2/2 Imp HS, make sure to save the SS until AFTER you summon the Soulwell.

 

Ravelvan

I was looking at a WWS of my guild's most recent Hodir kill, and noticed that my Demonic Pact uptime was remarkably low. Looking into it further, I noticed that it didn't proc at all during the first half of the fight, and then seems to have procced perfectly fine for the second half of the fight. I couldn't figure out what caused this on my own, but I figure maybe someone else who is more adept at digging through WWS than I am might find something. Seeing as how there is a sudden switch from OFF to ON, I thought it might be somewhat useful for narrowing the search.

The only strange thing I noticed was that during the first half of the fight, WWS shows that Prayer of Spirit was being constantly "refreshed" on random people at seemingly random times (a total of 66 times, by my count, during the first half of the fight). Prayer of Fortitude did not do this. This random refreshing of Prayer of Spirit seems to stop just before my Demonic Pact begins to work correctly, making me wonder if the two are related. Then again, maybe it's normal for Prayer of Spirit to refresh like this and I am just forgetting something obvious.

Demonic Pact not Proccing Skip to ~3mins in and it begins to proc normally.
Strange Prayer of Spirit Refreshing

 

Netfelix

Totem of Wrath was more powerful than Demonic Pact at the start of the fight. This caused it to proc, but, not give the buff because a more powerful effect was already in place. However, at about 3'04", your Pact became more powerful through Life Tap and Spirits of the Damned all at the same time. This put the buff up and it was simply refreshed from there on out. This lead me to believe that when it's refreshed the spell power buff is NOT recalculated though, it would need more testing.

 

Ravelvan

My Demonic Pact gives 274 SP with only Fel Armor and a flask, so worst case it didn't become better until I had 4 stacks of my Dragon Soul trinket up, but more likely it only took a few stacks to be better since I had raid buffs. I'm also sure that I had to Lifetap at least once before 3 minutes into the fight, so I don't think that explanation really works.

Edit: With just raid buffs and no procs, my Demonic Pact seems to give 294 SP, so better than Totem of Wrath at all times. Although on second thought, a gain of 200 spell power through raid buffs alone does seem a bit high, so it's possible I miscalculated this since I did it in the middle of an Archavon kill when I thought I had no other spell power buffs.

 

apropos

This should be the intended behavior. Haunt replaces previous debuff and returns to heal you, and if it kills the mob, it returns both the previous debuff and the current one that you just cast.

 

Netfelix

Demonic Pact doesn't count the spell power gained through the spirit portion of fel armor. Be sure to calculate that in as well.

 

Ravelvan

I didn't actually calculate anything that complicated, I simply observed my Spell Power amount before and after a Demonic Pact proc.

 

Splot

I'm searching blue posts on this and looking through the patch notes. All I have found so far is the acknowledgment that this is a bug in late March but no notes to say that this has been resolved. I'll get my raid's demo pact warlock to test this tonight and see if the bug is still in game.

 

olindra

What the guy before had said is he would get two heals from one shoting a mob with haunt, and I have noticed somthing just like this but on higher lvl mobs and the training dummy, I cast first sb then haunt and my dots, and mabey by the third or fourth refresh of haunt I will get two heals from it when it is refreshed instead of just the single heal, I also when finding this decided to let haunt drop off and got another heal like normal, no idea why this is happening but is it really a bug to mention to the gms lol

 

Warlocomotif

Yes it does, though it doesn't account foir demonic aegis (IE: wether or not you have the talent, demonic pact scales with 30% of your spirit while fel armor is active), this was "fixed" in 3.1. Please stop spreading misinformation- demonic pact misbehaviour has nothing to do with spellpower not being high enough as it happens in the complete absence of ToW aswell.

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hbalsack

I have noticed this as well. I drilled down through the WWS logs on attempts where DP seems low. DP would not procc on any crit during the first 1 minute to 1:30 of the fight, and then proc. Once it procced the remainder of the fight sees the Demonic pact buff up and refreshed with every Felguard Crit.

Definately a bug, I couldn't find a trigger - loss of another buff or specific action that allowed DP to start proccing corecctly. It reduces the effectiveness of this spec for raid damage to the point i may drop it until the bug is fixed.


I checked for Prayer of Spirit but no cases of random freshes going on before or after Demonic Pact started proccing correctly.

 

groovenak

I've noticed the same issue in my 10 man group. Here is my workaround:

1. With my Felgaurd out, we buff using all buffs except spirit
2. I quickly summon the Eye of Kilrogg
3. let the priest cast the spirit buff on the raid
4. finally I dismiss the Eye of Kilrogg.

 

hbalsack

So just to be clear, without the spirit buff Demonic Pact doesn't bug at all? I am guessing that a right click cannot remove pet buffs as that would be too easy, and I am sure you would have mentioned it.

 

Warlocomotif

Currently it is unknown what *exactly* triggers the bug- so it's hard to say. However I have had demonic pact bug in a party as small as 2 members (priest lock), I dont think I've seen it bug solo.

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Zultan

Prior to 3.1 there was an issue with Immolate where if you renewed it before it expired it may not actually reapply on the target wasting mana, cast time and a gcd. I've noticed that this bug still has not been fixed and there are no mentions of it in the 3.1.2 test realm patch notes. Is this something Blizzard intended to prevent precasting of immolate?