Stealing Haunt actually makes a lot of sense. Look at this:

Wow Web Stats

Notice that whenever I have the latest Haunt, my Corruption ticks for around the 2.2k range. Whenever Nosfaratu has the latest Haunt, my Corruption ticks for around 1.8k. I'm finding the same results for UA, Siphon Life, Immolate, and Curse of Agony

Looking at this log with Shadowbolt included: Wow Web Stats

I don't think its an SE stealing thing.

No, this is normal. 4 seconds wouldn't happen. But 2 could happen yes. Understand how haunt refreshes corruption. It does not reset the ticks, but merely resets the timer to 18 seconds. What this means is that it's possible to have a tick with 2.99 seconds left on corruption. Which means no more ticks would happen. When this occurs, the dot truncates and falls off, making it look like it's falling off early, but it's not.

You need to refresh your haunt sooner if that is happening.


I'm actually glad to see you post this. Yesterday I was doing some testing and at first thought malediction was bugged, which is wasn't. Anyways, the point being, I tested every single talent and spell we have. Solo, all talents, spells, and coefficients are working as they should, so the problem is not there.

Then I was doing some SE testing with another lock, and it does look like either SE and/or Haunt was being "stolen" as you mentioned here. Unfortunately our server underwent a "reset" and when I logged back on, I had to get to raid, so I was unable to conclusively do any more testing.

I will definitely be digging through WWS logs today and probably do more testing tonight. Expect a post on the wow forums if I find something.

It's a DPS loss, yes, but you should still be able to overwrite anything you lay down. When the class hinges on constantly rotating spells over and over, missing a single spell because of a more powerful message is going to mean a bigger DPS loss than simply missing the last tick of the previous one. It needs to be fixed.

I also saw Haunt not refresh Corruption lastnight with over 2 seconds left of Corruption finishing when a fresh Haunt was applied. I found myself having to manually refresh Corruption almost all the time. It may as well be a manual spell at this time. They have a lot of bugs to fix now, and I hope they make it a priority.

Conflagrate spell button is "available" while another's warlock immo/SF debuff at the target.

I'm sorry but I'm not seeing the same results you are. The only time I have seen corruption fall off "early" is when there has been less than 3 seconds left on it, and it ticks, and my haunt doesn't get there in time to refresh it.

As for the more powerful spell thing, that's just a game mechanic. You should ALWAYS let a dot finish, even if it means having a few seconds before you can recast it.


Also, continuing the Haunt "stealing" discussion. I created a separate thread, and yes it looks like you can "steal" another afflock's haunt. I created a new thread as I think the discussion might be quite lengthy.

Haunt "stolen" Affliction Bug?

I agree with this. However, it only effects people who can't play the class to perfection. Those that can, it doesn't matter much.

Problem being, that I only noticed this happening before the patch when I was under a second of tick on Corruption. I really had no issues with being ahead of the curve with Haunt refreshing it in the past. The only thing that has changed since, is the new patch.

I agree that it is always better to let a dot finish, but sometimes under heroism/haste you accidentally make a mistake and recast immolate slightly too early, so the DD component hits but the DOT component is not refreshed, wasting your mana and cast time, so you have to recast it, use up more mana and another cast time and likely lose immolate uptime, resulting in a dps loss.

Did those people saying that the immolate bug is not a bug because you can't overwrite a more powerful dot also test this with Siphon Life? Because I could replace my siphon life + trinket proc easily with a non-trinket proc on the dummies but couldn't do the same with a +proc corruption or immolate. Now that is what I call weird. I want to either be able to overwrite all more powerfull ones (please) or none (I can settle for that as well if need be).
And with the immolate it is just pretty annoying because you just spend a whole cooldown on only the direct damage part, which we all lowered with a glyph. Yes you should not overwrite a dot in theory but I don't time hasteprocs, plus occasionally I do like to overwrite them early to get a longer Drain Soul in. I don't really like the idea of the game protecting my against myself.

Sorry, not true int he case of immolate, only in the case of instant casts. Let me give some examples

Heigen - you need to refresh immolate just before you dance, ie. as you get off the platform, you cannot refresh during dance
Gothik - putting up all your dots just before he ports to the other side is more DPS
Anub - throwing up all your dots just before the add comes out (if you are on duty to DPS add)

I won't go on but you get the point. And in PVP, without a doubt refreshing a cast time DOT early is often a far better tactic if you have breathing room for some lucky reason.

Gotta be careful with absolutes

Actually you can refresh it during the dance same with UA & Haunt. Just not at the same time.

The improved health funnel talent appears to be bugged. The increase in healing provided by improved health funnel does not appear to match the tooltip. The damage reduction part of the talent appears to be working correctly, but the talented health funnel does not appear to provide 20% more healing. Healing provided without the talent was 1474, and with the talent it was 1577. According to the tooltip if my health funnel is 1474 unimproved I would expect it to be 1769 when improved (20%), if the phrase "Increases the amount of health transfered" means that it should increase healing by that amount.