The first boss of NR beasts Gormock isn't procing demonic pact. Based on my 10man ToC/H:ToC

This is not boss related, the problem is sometimes demonic pact simply not proccing. This is supposedly related to divine spirit, but as far as I know no one has found an exact way to reproduce the issue.

This is the WOL link with 2x T8.5 and 2x T9.5 - Only present buff was Fel Armor, cloak and trinkets removed and Pyroclasm was cancelled before casting any other spell:

UPDATED 3 MINUTE DUMMY FIGHT: World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

Average conflag hit: 5611 - 2991 spellpower without cloak and trinket

This is the WOL link with 4x T9.5 - Only present buff was Fel Armor, cloak and trinkets removed and Pyroclasm was cancelled before casting any other spell:

UPDATED 3 MINUTE DUMMY FIGHT: World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

Average conflag hit: 5568.8 - 3009 spellpower without cloak and trinket

It should be impossible to have a lower conflag hit if you spellpower increases. Even if it's a marginal increase.

You only casted 9 conflags in each dummy fight. That sample size is WAY too small - you need at *least* 1000 or 2000 conflags in order to get reasonable data.

I understand... But I can't spend 3 hours on dummies. You should have a look at it when you get your last 2 tier 9 pieces. It's really strange.

But doesn't it strike you as odd, that my conflags hit for lower while all my stats increase? I mean, you don't need 1000 conflags to notice it's a bug.

Example:

4set t9: My conflag hits for 6k

2set t8+t9: My conflag hits for 6.1k - but I lost roughly 100sp

How can my conflag damage increase when I lose spell power, for 9 times? How can my conflag hits be lower, while my immolate ticks are higher? All indicates towards a buggy set bonus. I might be missing something, but I honestly don't think I am.

If we were trying to use brute force statistics to determine previously undetermined behavior, this would be accurate. Since we have an accurate model of the base spell's behavior, it is not true in this case. In particular, because there is no random variabilty in conflagrate if you filter out the crits, we need only a few samples. You do have to query the logs to get the raw data.

If you query the first log with 2xT8 and 2xT9, all immolate ticks were 1327-1328. Non-crit conflagrates all hit for 5610.

The known formula for an immolate tick is The known formula for conflag with 2Tx8 is Given a standard destro spec (without immolate glyph), the predicted ratio of conflag to immo tick with 2xT8 is The observed ratio of conflag to immo tick is 5610/1327.5 = 4.226

So far, so good.

Now, if the 4xT9 bonus affect conflag the same way 2xT8 does, we should expect a conflagto immo tick ratio of ~4.22. If it is bugged and doesn't affect conflag we should expect a ratio of In the second data set with 4xT9, we see immo ticks for 1334 and conflag hits for 5568. The ratio of conflag to immo tick is 5568/1334 = 4.174

So we're definitely not ignoring, the bonus, but something is different. If we take the intuitive leap of "maybe they stuck the coefficient in the other set of parentheses", we can hypothesize that the fomula might be Doing so would give us a conflag to immo tick ratio of Which leads me to believe that the 4 piece T9 bonus works, but the proper formula for conflagrate before modifiers is:

Since the wording is quite similar to Malediction, I'd expect it to be a flat 5% damage multiplier rather than a spell power increase.

Conflag looks like it's currently bugged on PTR:

http://mcalister.cc/wow/conf.jpg

11 Total dmg out of 5 hits...

I'm not sure if this is necessarily the right place for this but from looking on the Tech Support forums recently I have noticed that there are a rather large number of demo locks suffering the same problem as me and Blizz don't seem to have noticed yet. Maybe if we have lots of people comment they might take notice.

Basically the problem is that since Sept sometime I always get disconnected when I first login to my lock (around the same time I took a demo spec). It's pretty frequent on taking other portals in game too. A few other classes have the same problems but a rather large majority seem to be people with demo specs. And some even report the problem stopping when they respecc.

i have also noticed this problem, it occurs on my first login on any given session. i get DC`d and have to relog

Conflag is now fixed today in PTR patch.

Demo, get DC on EVERY first connect as well. Will test if this applies to my secondary Destruction spec as well.

EDIT: Just tested it repeatedly. Exiting game in destruction-spec and all is ok. Demo, on the other hand, DCs me everytime.

Quoting my own post from the official forums on the topic of Demonic Pact not proccing. Perhaps someone here is able to find any reasons for this bug based on the combat log.

The Warlock Demonology disconnect problem is caused by the talent "Improved Demonic Tactics".
I had been working with Tech support / GM's regarding this problem until we found the resolution.

I have also been experiencing a large number of disconnects anytime the game has to load a zone while Meta spec. The main culprit is Dalaran, although for me it isn't just the first time entering the game, it seems to periodically happen throughout the night (and only while in meta spec on my warlock).

I have not had any problems with the spirit buff elsewhere than Anub'Arak but using Divine Spirit instead of Prayer of Spirit seems to fix the problem.

Tested without any addons.

The warlock talent Backdraft (rank 3)states:

When you cast Conflagrate, the cast time and global cooldown of your next three Destruction spells is reduced by 30%. Lasts 15 sec.

This talent is not working correctly with the following Destruction spells however:

Rain of Fire(rank 7) and Hellfire (rank 5). I did not test lower ranks of these, but can if necessary.

Rain of Fire does not consume a charge of Backdraft, and does not receive 30% haste from the proc.

Hellfire, however, DOES consume a charge of Backdraft, but does not receive 30% haste from the proc.

Not gamebreaking..but still a bug

Just thought I'd chime in (for the first time) because I had this issue as well when I was Demo, and when I did some research another blue post suggested the DC is a "currently a known issue where players with a Felguard summoned will disconnect upon logging in":
World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums -> WoW disconnects as soon as my warlock logs in

I tried dismissing before logging off and it worked for me, but I had no idea about the Imp Demonic Tactics bug. I have since respecced out of Demo (for other reasons), but which issue was it? Or was it a combo of both?

EDIT: It makes sense it could be Demonic Tactics since without a demon summoned, the buff was not active on login...just wondering...

Interestingly, ShadowFury seems to not consume a charge of backdraft, AND DOES get the +30% haste.

Rather strange behaviour! All 3 AoE Spells work differently with backdraft, and none of them work the way the tooltip says!

[Edit] I am an idiot, Shadowfury has a stupidly fast GCD anyway, so I don't think backdraft is affecting it. Or if it is, its rather hard to tell![/Edit]

Does anyone know if the Demonic Tactics disconnect bug has been repaired?

No, I was still getting disconnects last night.

Same here. However it can be avoided by logging another character in and then logging over to the Warlock without logging out the account. Works every time for me, and I do get 1~2 disconnects from the Warlock otherwise.