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Old 10/18/10, 5:53 PM   #451
moop
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Worgen Warlock
 
The Maelstrom (EU)
Cross-posting here from my original post in the SimulationCraft thread for further discussion. I assume it's a bug since Improved Soul Fire can only occur above 80% health, and most guilds use their Bloodlust/Heroism at the start of a fight, rendering the talent less useful than I originally thought, albeit still useful.

Originally Posted by moop
I'm not sure how it's being modelled by SimulationCraft, but it seems that Bloodlust/Heroism and Improved Soul Fire are mutually exclusive, i.e. if I have the Improved Soul Fire buff and a Bloodlust/Heroism is used, it will remove the buff. Is the Destruction profile taking this "issue" (not sure if it's intended by Blizzard) into account? Since I can't seem to see anything in the action list which would suggest so.

Here are some extracts from my guild's World of Logs to back it up:

[19:11:54.783] Moop gains Improved Soul Fire from Moop
[19:11:59.378] Moop's Improved Soul Fire fades
[19:11:59.378] Moop gains Heroism from Trivial
[19:11:59.378] Moop afflicted by Exhaustion from Moop

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Old 10/19/10, 1:02 AM   #452
Saufsoldat
Von Kaiser
 
Undead Warlock
 
Madmortem (EU)
In the Dreamwalker encounter I noticed that my Shards do not get replenished when I use Shadowburn. I was able to reproduce this on every add type during the encounter, but I'm not sure what's causing it. My only explanation is that the adds died so quickly after my using Shadowburn on them, that it somehow didn't count.

Can anyone confirm this behavior?

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Old 10/19/10, 1:57 AM   #453
Fuqup
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warlock
 
Dark Iron
Originally Posted by Saufsoldat View Post
In the Dreamwalker encounter I noticed that my Shards do not get replenished when I use Shadowburn. I was able to reproduce this on every add type during the encounter, but I'm not sure what's causing it. My only explanation is that the adds died so quickly after my using Shadowburn on them, that it somehow didn't count.

Can anyone confirm this behavior?
I haven't been to VDW on my warlock since 4.0.1 hit, but prior to the patch Drain Soul did not grant shards on those adds, so either this is a persistent/related bug or it is intended behavior.

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Old 10/19/10, 2:52 AM   #454
 Zakalwe
The Chairmaker
 
Orc Warlock
 
Balnazzar
This has always been the case - spawned adds during boss encounters are not considered to grant XP or honor.

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Old 10/19/10, 4:09 AM   #455
realCool
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warlock
 
Anetheron (EU)
I noticed during the raid yesterday that only I was able to buff my pet with Unending breath, but none of my raidmembers could use any other buff on it (i.e. Arcane Intellect, Blessing of Kings, ...) Is this intended or a bug?

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Old 10/19/10, 4:59 AM   #456
vo1os
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Human Warlock
 
Черный Шрам (EU)
Haste aura not affecting imp too

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Old 10/19/10, 6:20 AM   #457
 Zakalwe
The Chairmaker
 
Orc Warlock
 
Balnazzar
Originally Posted by vo1os View Post
Haste aura not affecting imp too
This is only true for Wrath of Air and possibly Moonkin Aura. Shadow Form does affect the imp.

Last edited by Zakalwe : 10/19/10 at 7:17 AM.

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Old 10/19/10, 10:43 AM   #458
Saufsoldat
Von Kaiser
 
Undead Warlock
 
Madmortem (EU)
Originally Posted by Zakalwe View Post
This has always been the case - spawned adds during boss encounters are not considered to grant XP or honor.
My bad then, does this apply to all encounters? If so then gaining Shards during an encounter seems impossible, which makes me a sad warlock.

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Old 10/19/10, 12:19 PM   #459
Flamingcloud
Great Tiger
 
Goblin Warlock
 
Cho'gall
Originally Posted by Zakalwe View Post
This has always been the case - spawned adds during boss encounters are not considered to grant XP or honor.
This is completely false. It has always been something that needed to be tested on a case by case basis.

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Old 10/19/10, 12:29 PM   #460
 Zakalwe
The Chairmaker
 
Orc Warlock
 
Balnazzar
Originally Posted by Flamingcloud View Post
This is completely false. It has always been something that needed to be tested on a case by case basis.
My blanket statement may be unwarranted, but it's certainly the norm for continuously spawning adds like in the VDW encounter. There's no bug here.

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Old 10/19/10, 12:38 PM   #461
Nartas
Von Kaiser
 
Human Warlock
 
Eonar
Originally Posted by Zakalwe View Post
This has always been the case - spawned adds during boss encounters are not considered to grant XP or honor.
I was able to replenish all shards with a shadowburn on the living flames (big adds) on halion this week 100% positive

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Old 10/19/10, 12:50 PM   #462
Padraigh
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Scarlet Crusade
Originally Posted by Flamingcloud View Post
...something that needed to be tested on a case by case basis.
Success on Ice Tombs during Sindragosa.

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Old 10/19/10, 12:56 PM   #463
mcgriff871
Glass Joe
 
Goblin Warlock
 
Shattered Halls
I can report that Raging Spirits also regenerate soul shards if you use shadowburn. However, sometimes shadowburn will go on cooldown and won't regenerate the shards. I think if you wait too long to hit the spell, and its either the killing blow or the target dies in the split seconds before the debuff is applied you won't receive the shards.

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Old 10/19/10, 1:34 PM   #464
Flamingcloud
Great Tiger
 
Goblin Warlock
 
Cho'gall
Originally Posted by Zakalwe View Post
My blanket statement may be unwarranted, but it's certainly the norm for continuously spawning adds like in the VDW encounter. There's no bug here.
It is certainly possible that it is a bug/oversight on the part of the developers. If Demon Soul was still based on shards I would say it was critical to make developers aware of all instances they may have forgotten to attach experience, however with only soul burn attached to shards I think it hardly matters.

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Old 10/19/10, 1:40 PM   #465
Ankhyus
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Sporeggar (EU)
I gained Soul Shards using Shadowburn from the Volatile Ooze and Gas Cloud in the Putricide encounter. I can also confirm that Raging Spirits also grant Soul Shards.

During Valithria, most adds did not grant soul shards. However, I recall that the abominations did, but it is best if someone checks this to confirm it.

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Old 10/19/10, 1:42 PM   #466
Demmy
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Orc Warlock
 
Turalyon (EU)
A target with your Shadowflame debuff on it will 'light up' your Conflagrate as useable, without Immolate being up.

I assume this is because Conflagrate could be used to consume ones Shadowflame (pre 4.0), though this is no longer the case.

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Old 10/19/10, 4:20 PM   #467
Itsbacon
Glass Joe
 
Orc Rogue
 
Ghostlands
I did a search and didn't see this bug posted anywhere, so I'll be posting it both here and on the oForums for
Blizzard to hopefully get fixed.

The talent 'Ancient Grimoire' (deep demo) when specced 2/2 states that it increases the duration of the Infernal
and Doomguard summons by 20 seconds. Noticed that the tooltip on both of those only reads '1.08' minute
summon time. So I did some testing, and as I thought the talent only gives a bonus of ~5 seconds.

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Old 10/19/10, 4:44 PM   #468
Innulock
Von Kaiser
 
Human Warlock
 
Draenor (EU)
1.08 minutes or 65 seconds would be about exactely 20 seconds more then the usual 45 second doomguard/infernal other specs have

Summon Doomguard - Spell - World of Warcraft
Summon Infernal - Spell - World of Warcraft

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Old 10/20/10, 9:54 AM   #469
FunkyDemon
Glass Joe
 
Goblin Warlock
 
Nathrezim (EU)
Soul Swap

During Halion 25 Heroic I experienced that Halion (aswell as the Living Flame adds) targets me for like half a second after I cast soul swap (to remove DoTs).

Since Halion breaths and cleaves this bug may result irreparable damage to your raid. Unfotunately I didn't attend any other raid this ID to find out whether or not it only appears there.

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Old 10/20/10, 3:11 PM   #470
Poppaperm
Glass Joe
 
Human Warlock
 
Ner'zhul
Originally Posted by FunkyDemon View Post
During Halion 25 Heroic I experienced that Halion (aswell as the Living Flame adds) targets me for like half a second after I cast soul swap (to remove DoTs).

Since Halion breaths and cleaves this bug may result irreparable damage to your raid. Unfotunately I didn't attend any other raid this ID to find out whether or not it only appears there.

I noticed this same bug last night on HLK. I would SS to get a set of DoTs on one of the Valks, and LK would give me a "look" everytime I did. This was particularly troublesum for the 2nd valk/defile combo.

I am also noticing another bug involving SS. If I Swap a target that has Corruption on it via SB: SoC, it does not copy the Corruption.

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Old 10/21/10, 10:13 AM   #471
vo1os
Banned
 
Human Warlock
 
Черный Шрам (EU)
Is it a bug that pet's(felguard) base spell damage is negative(naked warlock).
Click Here ← Click Here

After pet's death bug disappeared. Hope it won't be back.

Last edited by vo1os : 10/21/10 at 10:37 AM.

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Old 10/21/10, 7:01 PM   #472
Fuqup
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warlock
 
Dark Iron
Small bug but definitely worth noting - if you are casting a Soul Fire and Empowered Imp procs during your cast, you will lose your instant SF at the end of the cast.

e: Additionally, dismissing an Imp with Soul Link, then resummoning it with soulburn does not remove the Soul Link buff from your character.

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Old 10/22/10, 5:26 AM   #473
Talimar
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Gnome Warlock
 
Nagrand (EU)
If you are specced into nether ward it will still proc nether protection even if you don't have the extra points in it.
When I saw the animation I thought I was getting free damage reduction but the tooltip said otherwise:


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Old 10/22/10, 12:34 PM   #474
vo1os
Banned
 
Human Warlock
 
Черный Шрам (EU)
Found new one. Not the warlock bug, but:
If we first use frost wyrm flask, and then scroll of intellect(now counts as offensive elixir) - we gain +30 Int(scaled with passive and buffs more). Use sequence matters.

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Old 10/24/10, 6:15 PM   #475
Enigmafury
Glass Joe
 
Human Warlock
 
Разувий (EU)
During Halion 25 Heroic I experienced that Halion (aswell as the Living Flame adds) targets me for like half a second after I cast soul swap (to remove DoTs).

Since Halion breaths and cleaves this bug may result irreparable damage to your raid.
I noticed this same bug last night on HLK. I would SS to get a set of DoTs on one of the Valks, and LK would give me a "look" everytime I did. This was particularly troublesum for the 2nd valk/defile combo.
Can someone with a us wow account post this bug in the official forum's thead, because this thing wreaked havok and destruction on halion before we realised where did it come from.

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