3.1 Patch notes discussion - Page 31

Vux · 02/28/09, 8:39 PM

Originally Posted by cognomon

As for getting them in, I didn't remember that enslaved demons despawned in instances, I'll try in a bit, but if anyone wants to confirm before then that would be great.

If you get on a flying mount, a CoD Doomguard doesn't disappear like normal pets. Then if you fly upwards, the DG will simply un-enslave and sit there in the world as a normal mob. (If you fly back down, he attacks you.)

I also tried hearthing with an enslaved DG, and the DG does *not* hearth with you. I would assume that summoning would yield the same result.

Basically this means it would be impossible to get any other type of enslaved Demon into an instance unless you enslaved, traveled to the instance by foot, and ran into the portal. Assuming that they won't disappear during the load.

Ravelvan · 02/28/09, 8:49 PM

Originally Posted by cognomon

As for getting them in, I didn't remember that enslaved demons despawned in instances, I'll try in a bit, but if anyone wants to confirm before then that would be great.

Just tried zoning in to Normal Drak'Tharon Keep (was the most convenient zone-in) on the PTR and my Doomguard did not follow me into the instance.

In addition to that, depending on the specific dungeon it may be impossible to even get a Doomguard to the zone-in point, as he does not despawn/respawn when you get on/off your flying mount. You simply leave him behind. At least, I don't remember seeing any mobs accessible without flying from Ulduar.

Malathar · 02/28/09, 10:03 PM

I'm pretty sure he will follow you (run 280% if you have epic flyer) as long as you don't go too high.

Ravelvan · 02/28/09, 10:37 PM

Right, but my point was that there is a big chasm that you wouldn't be able to get him over in front of Ulduar. Although I suppose you could use the nearby 5-man dungeons if there was a change allowing him to zone in/out with you.

He also seems to run slower than epic land mount speed.

Emolokz · 02/28/09, 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by henslaved

A Felhunter is worse than a Succy for Affliction.

This is something I was entirely unaware of. Anyone else have the numbers for this, because this is somewhat difficult to believe for affliction.

Issa · 03/01/09, 2:50 AM

We're currently adding pets in Rawr.warlock beta and it did indeed tell us that the succubus is better than the felpuppy, even when you take into account that you will lose the Fel intelligence buff. However, that is the case for soloing, in a raid you should consider that taking the succubus means that everyone will lack the spirit buff, so perhaps that would make it worthwhile to use the puppy.
The new Rawr.warlock beta will hopefully be available soon so you can check for yourself, but can't promise when. It will contain a lot of fixes compared to the one that is up now though.

PSGarak · 03/01/09, 3:06 AM

Remember, it doesn't stack with DS, which is becoming baseline in 3.1 rather than talented.

LockApologist · 03/01/09, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by Issa

We're currently adding pets in Rawr.warlock beta and it did indeed tell us that the succubus is better than the felpuppy, even when you take into account that you will lose the Fel intelligence buff. However, that is the case for soloing, in a raid you should consider that taking the succubus means that everyone will lack the spirit buff, so perhaps that would make it worthwhile to use the puppy.
The new Rawr.warlock beta will hopefully be available soon so you can check for yourself, but can't promise when. It will contain a lot of fixes compared to the one that is up now though.

With Priests getting Divine Spirit baseline, it's much less likely that you will not have a spirit buff.

Dappa · 03/01/09, 1:05 PM

Did the Felguard's Demonic Frenzy previously update its tooltip when Demonic Brutality is used?
The tooltip says 50% even with that talent point, and I think it used to update to 80% on the tooltip.

Could anyone confirm if it's always been the case (50% tooltip /w Demonic Brutality).

Lightner · 03/01/09, 1:16 PM

Ghostcrawler posted some info on the new 32 max soulshard change: MMO-Champion BlueTracker - 32 shards max [Might be huge buff?]

Drain Soul will produce enough shards that you should never be without them. Even if you are learning a boss through repeated wiping, you should be able to get the new shards you need each attempt.

In fact, it produces so many shards that we figured you'd end up having to delete them constantly, which would be annoying. The 32 limit will fill up your largest bag (which only holds shards anyway) without spilling over into the rest of your inventory. We figured very few locks carried around a lot more shards than that, and like I said, they are easy enough to replace now for those of you who do manage to go through them quickly.

Syllex · 03/01/09, 2:23 PM

Originally Posted by Lightner

Ghostcrawler posted some info on the new 32 max soulshard change: MMO-Champion BlueTracker - 32 shards max [Might be huge buff?]

WTB stacking shards that fit in the ammo slot on the paper doll, PST

Vux · 03/01/09, 2:40 PM

Anyone know if dual-speccing into Master Conjuror, applying a Spellstone, and speccing out of it will keep the specced bonus?

ostoles · 03/01/09, 2:47 PM

Originally Posted by Vux

Anyone know if dual-speccing into Master Conjuror, applying a Spellstone, and speccing out of it will keep the specced bonus?

This was covered on post 280 of this thread. In any case, no the bonus is updated upon the spec change.

Turbo Moses · 03/01/09, 6:46 PM

Originally Posted by Orgath

it has been tested and found inferior to 41/30 as conflag does not outperform FG over IMP without Backdraft.

They looked awfully close from simcraft, but is simcraft running the best possible rotation? I know destruction was supposed to keep up CoA and Corruption for Molten Core, but could CoA be a DPS loss for the 30/41 build? Either way I'm probably gonna play that build, it seems a lot more appealing than 41/30 as of now. But I guess it depends on difficulty of pet management in Ulduar.

I remember playing Demo in T5 content was one of the most challenging specs (in my opinion, this is also when aff scaled terribly and was only really good in Karazhan levels of gear when you could stack damage) due to a lot of the pet management that had to be done, but that doesn't seem to be much of an issue anymore with how things like avoidance work these days.

We'll see, I suppose, but the conflag build just seems more entertaining to play, I was struggling with the rotations my first couple of attempts, it's odd changing my internal rhythm that I've got with affliction.

Malathar · 03/01/09, 7:47 PM

I actually have no trouble at all keeping my FG alive. I just simply bound my 4 key to do lifetap and /petfollow. Problem solved. Sure he might not do the absolute best dps he could, but I promise you he won't die unless he pulls aggro.