SimulationCraft for Warlocks (4.0.3a numbers at 80 and 85) - Page 101

nuibank · 05/18/09, 4:05 PM

The sim's fight length isn't guaranteed. It's a fudge factor thing.

dedmonwakeen · 05/18/09, 5:03 PM

Originally Posted by nuibank

The sim's fight length isn't guaranteed. It's a fudge factor thing.

SimulationCraft adjusts target health per iteration to converge towards the requested fight time. (There is a dampening effect to prevent any nasty swings.)

However..... some iterations end earlier than others even after target health has settled down due to lucky crit streaks, etc. When I simulate an entire raid, I find that 20-30 players are enough to smooth out the "luck", resulting in most iterations ending very very close to the requested fight time.

Grimrage · 05/18/09, 5:34 PM

Originally Posted by Fecys

I dont manage to pull more dps whit 3/13/55 then whit 41/30 on the dummy. Could this be because of my gear and the bigger scaling factors of this spec? And do you guys think I should be doing more dps whit 3/13/55 then whit 41/30 whit my gear?
Here is my armory:The World of Warcraft Armory

The rankings of specs on the first post are updated for the 3.1.2 patch, which isn't live yet.

duhwhat · 05/18/09, 6:26 PM

Originally Posted by shadestrider

For Warlock_T8_00_13_58, I see:

I am not familiar with the Simulationcraft's syntax, but it looks like you're only considering CoD if you have more than 90 secs left. Is CoA considered in case it's less than 90 secs? And why is this value not 60?

CoA is not included in the sim as stated. Including CoA when the target has less than 90 seconds to live results in an approximately 5 dps increase. The value is not 60 as to allow time for the "fudge factor" of fight length.

Injez · 05/19/09, 6:31 AM

Conflagrate updated: Consumes an Immolate or Shadowflame effect on the enemy target to instantly deal damage equal to 12 seconds of your Immolate, or 8 seconds of your Shadowflame. In addition, the increased critical strike chance of Conflagrate provided by this talent no longer requires the Immolate effect to have 5 seconds or fewer remaining on the target.

It does not look like "old" variant. Or i missed something?

Chuo · 05/19/09, 7:53 AM

Originally Posted by Injez

It does not look like "old" variant. Or i missed something?

Now Conflagrate has 25% crit everytime, not only on the last 5 seconds of Immolate

FunkyDemon · 05/19/09, 8:26 AM

Originally Posted by Chuo

Now Conflagrate has 25% crit everytime, not only on the last 5 seconds of Immolate

Which is pretty useless since it consumes the effect again.

• Zakalwe · 05/19/09, 8:37 AM

Not if glyphed.

Borodin · 05/19/09, 8:40 AM

Originally Posted by FunkyDemon

Which is pretty useless since it consumes the effect again.

The talent/spell always did - the Glyph was going to change but they canned that proposed change. So with the (mandatory) Conflag Glyph in place your Conflags won't consume Immolate.

Note there's no mention of the Conflag Glyph in the notes because it's staying as it is now.

That's how I've understood it as the changes rolled in and out of the notes anyway.

schnalle · 05/19/09, 8:49 AM

Deleted, wrong thread. :/

Reuben · 05/19/09, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by Borodin

Note there's no mention of the Conflag Glyph in the notes because it's staying as it is now.

The notes from todays patch show the changed Conflag Glyph? Was this not suppose to happen but did?

brashar · 05/19/09, 11:24 AM

That's what it looks like so far =((

Can anyone confirm?

rutiene · 05/19/09, 11:27 AM

Are you looking on the right page? WoW -> Test Realm Patch Notes has the 3.1.2 patch notes, and there is no mention of a Glyph of Conflag change.

brashar · 05/19/09, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by rutiene

Are you looking on the right page? WoW -> Test Realm Patch Notes has the 3.1.2 patch notes, and there is no mention of a Glyph of Conflag change.

It came from the patch itself today. Unless by a shadow of a doubt they left it in the actual client patch notes.

fallenman · 05/19/09, 11:31 AM

The glyph was not changed. Patch notes are often inaccurate and have old remnants from previous patch notes in them.