SimulationCraft for Warlocks (4.0.3a numbers at 80 and 85) - Page 101

Bergtau · 02/26/10, 9:19 PM

Disregard, was looking at wrong value.

Nahlm · 02/27/10, 1:57 PM

If the scale factors change for each piece of gear that you swap, what is the true benefit of your current gear scale factors? Wouldn't there be more benefit from bis since that is generally what people are aiming for in upgrades?

I do understand that current gear could result in a different optimal spec than the bis gear.

Originally Posted by Warlocomotif

Wouldn't it be better to not have scale factors in there at all? IE: To discourage people from just assuming those scale factors for themselves?

Warlocomotif · 02/27/10, 6:22 PM

Originally Posted by Nahlm

If the scale factors change for each piece of gear that you swap, what is the true benefit of your current gear scale factors? Wouldn't there be more benefit from bis since that is generally what people are aiming for in upgrades?

I do understand that current gear could result in a different optimal spec than the bis gear.

They don't change wildly unless under very specific conditions- however they do change enough for the stats to be pretty different from 1 person to another if the stats on their current gear are somewhat different, and frankly- they tend to be.

• Zakalwe · 02/28/10, 8:20 AM

Originally Posted by Nahlm

If the scale factors change for each piece of gear that you swap, what is the true benefit of your current gear scale factors? Wouldn't there be more benefit from bis since that is generally what people are aiming for in upgrades?

I do understand that current gear could result in a different optimal spec than the bis gear.

I'm not sure, but it seems like you're trying to say that the only scale factors that are interesting for gearing choices are the ones generated using the BiS gear set. That is exactly the opposite of what's true - for gearing choices, what matters is how good each stat is relative to your *current* gear, not to some hoped-for future BiS gear set.

People generally don't wait to upgrade gear in each slot until they get their BiS piece for that slot. If they did, they wouldn't need scale factors at all, they could just look directly at the posted BiS gear set.

Lancehead · 02/28/10, 2:05 PM

Originally Posted by Seiru

Life Tap is currently bugged on the PTR, so no testing can be done yet.

Is Life Tap still bugged or does someone have results how Life Tap scales with sp on the PTR?

Seiru · 02/28/10, 6:15 PM

Originally Posted by Lancehead

Is Life Tap still bugged or does someone have results how Life Tap scales with sp on the PTR?

It is still bugged.

We most likely won't see any fixes made to the PTR until tomorrow at the earliest.

~Thalia~ · 03/03/10, 4:39 AM

Is there a way to customize the timing of bloodlust\herosim during a simulation?
I've been looking forward to testing different combinations of Meta and BL regarding special fight lengths, but I can't find any satisfying way to do that.

Seiru · 03/03/10, 6:49 AM

Life Tap was fixed on the PTR, here are some numbers:

(without Improved Life Tap)
2726 sp - 4233 mana
2582 sp - 4161 mana
2471 sp - 4106 mana
2253 sp - 3936 mana
2007 sp - 3753 mana
1807 sp - 3359 mana

jibi · 03/03/10, 8:29 AM

as per 3.3.3 PTR build 11623 patchnotes:

* Unstable Affliction - Only one Unstable Affliction or Immolate per Warlock can be active on any one target.
* Life Tap - Now converts [ 150% of Spirit + 1490 ] health into [1490 + Spell Power * 0.5 ] mana. (Old - [300% of Spirit + 1490] health into [1490 + Spirit * 3 Mana]

by the wording of the change on UA, it could be either a tooltip update or a nerf. Don't have a lock toon on the PTR to confirm either of the two. I guess I'll copy one tonight.

• Zakalwe · 03/03/10, 8:34 AM

Neither the tooltip nor the current PTR behavior are likely to be correct. Having the health loss scale with spirit makes no sense at all, and the current PTR behavior has the mana gain scaling both with spirit *and* with SP. (3 * Spirit + SP * 0.5).

If the tooltip mana gain is the intended behavior, that seems weird as well, since it would make dark pact benefit almost twice as much from SP as life tap.

Lancehead · 03/03/10, 8:45 AM

Originally Posted by Seiru

Life Tap was fixed on the PTR, here are some numbers:

(without Improved Life Tap)
2726 sp - 4233 mana
2582 sp - 4161 mana
2471 sp - 4106 mana
2253 sp - 3936 mana
2007 sp - 3753 mana
1807 sp - 3359 mana

PTR patch notes for Build 11623 (MMO-champion) states "(Life Tap) Now converts [ 150% of Spirit + 1490 ] health into [1490 + Spell Power * 0.5 ] mana."

So it seems they have already "nerfed" it. For destruction, haste and crit will be better stats than spirit and it's likely there won't be any spirit in destruction lock's gear (except chest and leg enchants + 2 blue gems) and raid buffed spirit will be below 400.

For example, with 376 spirit and 4000 spell power, 3.3.2 Life Tap gives 2618 mana and 3.3.3 Life Tap gives 3490 mana. This means 3x 3.3.3 taps will give the same amount than 4x 3.3.2 taps give at the moment.

Seiru · 03/03/10, 9:26 AM

I attempted to test different values of spirit on the PTR as well, and didn't notice any difference in mana gained.

I'll go try and test it again, but I suppose it's better to rely on the patchnotes for now as far as interpreting their intent.

• Zakalwe · 03/03/10, 6:40 PM

I went ahead and updated the OP with results reflecting a life tap working as indicated in the tooltip - that is, scaling with 0.5 * SP.

gregorian · 03/04/10, 1:27 AM

If my ingame reported latency is 450ms, and I can bash keys at a rate of 4x per second, how do I reflect this in gcd_lag and queue_lag in the globals file? Also if I just select one of the Latency options in the GUI, what variables are affected and what values are actually being used?

reality_check · 03/04/10, 7:22 AM

I am trying to figure out how to model Simcraft with Strength of Wrynn / Hellscream's Warsong auras only on yourself since your pet does not benefit from this buff. This will become more important and noticeable in the coming days as the buff reaches its maxima (upto 30% damage increase), and we may see Destro outdpsing Demo since the latter is more pet dependent.

Demi9OD · 03/04/10, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by Zakalwe

I went ahead and updated the OP with results reflecting a life tap working as indicated in the tooltip - that is, scaling with 0.5 * SP.

Does Simcraft currently model Immolate crits powered by Empowered Imp as tested on PTR? That is that an Immolate cast while buffed by Empowered Imp will have 100% crit rate on ticks?

dedmonwakeen · 03/04/10, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by Demi9OD

Does Simcraft currently model Immolate crits powered by Empowered Imp as tested on PTR? That is that an Immolate cast while buffed by Empowered Imp will have 100% crit rate on ticks?

Yes. The crit chance for a DoT is calculated at cast time and maintained throughout the duration of the ticks.

xeonight · 03/04/10, 5:32 PM

What is the command line parameter for making the fight style as Helter Skelter on the COMMAND LINE? I know it's in the GUI, but it's a lot easier (for me) using the command line version of the program, and i haven't been able to find out how to do it, I've searched through these forums and Google many times, i even looked through a lot of the source files from both the current version, and the SVN version.

I thought it would be something like 'fight_style=helter_skelter' or something similar, maybe with a value of 0 or 1, but none of those work...

dedmonwakeen · 03/04/10, 6:35 PM

Originally Posted by xeonight

What is the command line parameter for making the fight style as Helter Skelter on the COMMAND LINE? I know it's in the GUI, but it's a lot easier (for me) using the command line version of the program, and i haven't been able to find out how to do it, I've searched through these forums and Google many times, i even looked through a lot of the source files from both the current version, and the SVN version.

I thought it would be something like 'fight_style=helter_skelter' or something similar, maybe with a value of 0 or 1, but none of those work...

Helter Skelter is not a boolean toggle. It is a combination of raid_events+= settings.

When you run from the GUI it creates a file simc_gui.simc that is fed to the sim when you press Simulate! button. You can examine that file to see what settings are being used. Alternatively, you can bring up the GUI and go to the Examples tab which will walk you through the possible raid events.

darlokdd · 03/05/10, 6:33 AM

I get some weird numbers when switching glyphs in simcraft. With lifetap glyph the imp does ~480 dps, with immolate glyph ~940dps, with imp glyph the imp does ~1080dps. With glyph of lifetap, 480 dps from the imp seem so low. It seems with lifetap glyph the imp casts firebolt 80 times during the sim and with the other two glyphs 160 times. Is that a bug?

It is a standerd 0_13_58 ISL build (imported from Rawr). Gear is the same in all cases (imported from Rawr), simc files are also the same (only glyphs change) and actions+=/life_tap,buff_refresh=1 is removed for immolate and imp glyph.

Output:

SimulationCraft for World of Warcraft release 3.3.2 ( iterations=1000, max_time=300, optimal_raid=1, smooth_rng=0 )

DPS Ranking:
  29635 100.0%  Raid
  10058  33.9%  destro_immolate
  10049  33.9%  destro_imp
   9560  32.2%  destro

Player: destro human warlock destruction 80
  DPS: 9560.0  Error=39.8  Range=1337  DPR=29.7  RPS=321.8/297.7  (mana)
  Origin: current.xml
  Core Stats:  strength=320|69(10)  agility=329|77(10)  stamina=1755|1285(1147)  intellect=1551|1306(1147)  spirit=923|711(526)  health=24591|20214  mana=27530|23745
  Spell Stats:  power=3917|2873(2873)  hit=14.23%|13.23%(347)  crit=34.94%|27.40%(682)  penetration=0|0(0)  haste=26.46%|16.93%(555)  mp5=0|0(0)
  Attack Stats  power=1186|59(0)  hit=11.58%|10.58%(347)  crit=29.02%|19.00%(682)  expertise=0.00|0.00(0)  penetration=0.00%|0.00%(0)  haste=44.52%|16.93%(555)
  Defense Stats:  armor=4598|2286(2132)  blockv=160|35(0)  defense=0|0(0)  miss=0.00%|0.00%  dodge=0.00%|0.00%(0)  parry=0.00%|0.00%(0)  block=0.00%|0.00%(0) crit=13.90%|13.90%
  Glyphs: conflagrate/incinerate/life_tap
  Priorities:
    flask,type=frost_wyrm/food,type=fish_feast/fire_stone/fel_armor/summon_pet,imp
    snapshot_stats/life_tap,buff_refresh=1/use_item,name=maghias_misguided_quill
    conflagrate/immolate/chaos_bolt/curse_of_doom,time_to_die>=80/incinerate
    corruption,time_to_die>=20,moving=1/curse_of_agony,time_to_die>=30,moving=1
    life_tap
  Actions:
    chaos_bolt     Count= 20.8|14.60sec  DPE= 14103|10%  DPET=  9989  DPR=  58.3  pDPS= 978  Miss=0.00%  Hit=8349|6866|10004  Crit=17474|14350|20908|63.1%
    conflagrate    Count= 28.0|10.75sec  DPE= 15604|15%  DPET= 12580  DPR=  28.1  pDPS=1459  Miss=0.00%  Hit=5255|4826|6307  Crit=10999|10087|13181|73.4%  TickCount=83  MissTick=0.0%  Tick=1141|810|1389  CritTick=2387|1692|2904|73.5%
    curse_of_doom  Count=  4.0|61.22sec  DPE= 19245| 3%  DPET= 14703  DPR=  33.3  pDPS= 257  Miss=0.00%  TickCount=4  MissTick=0.0%  Tick=19245|17235|21275
    immolate       Count= 19.2|15.87sec  DPE= 12510| 8%  DPET= 10396  DPR=  21.2  pDPS= 802  Miss=0.00%  Hit=2255|2030|2654  Crit= 4707| 4242| 5546|60.2%  TickCount=93  MissTick=0.0%  Tick=1808|1595|2209
    incinerate     Count=128.3| 2.28sec  DPE= 11750|53%  DPET=  7652  DPR=  24.2  pDPS=5030  Miss=0.00%  Hit=6955|5421|8523  Crit=14538|11330|17813|63.2%
    valkyr_smite   Count= 86.3| 2.62sec  DPE=  1909| 6%  DPET=     1  DPR=   0.0  pDPS= 550  Miss=0.00%  Hit=1793|1793|1793  Crit= 2689| 2689| 2689|12.9%
   imp  (DPS=484.3)
    fire_bolt      Count= 80.6| 1.85sec  DPE=  1798| 5%  DPET=   970  DPR=  10.0  pDPS= 484  Miss=0.00%  Hit=1367|1298|1524  Crit= 2733| 2596| 3047|31.6%
  Constant Buffs: arcane_brilliance/blessing_of_kings/blessing_of_might/blessing_of_wisdom/divine_spirit/fel_armor/fortitude
  Constant Buffs: heroic_presence/mark_of_the_wild/replenishment
  Dynamic Buffs:
    ashen_band_of_endless_destruction : start=4.6   refresh=0.0    interval= 70.2|70.2   uptime=15%  trigger=10%
    backdraft                         : start=28.0  refresh=0.0    interval= 10.7|10.7   uptime=48%  benefit=44%
    bloodlust                         : start=1.0   refresh=0.0    interval=  0.0|0.0    uptime=13%
    empowered_imp                     : start=49.5  refresh=1.2    interval=  6.0|5.8    uptime=15%  benefit=25%
    eye_of_the_broodmother            : start=1.0   refresh=285.6  interval=  0.0|1.0    uptime=99%
    life_tap_glyph                    : start=8.0   refresh=0.0    interval= 40.7|40.7   uptime=98%  benefit=98%
    lightweave_embroidery             : start=5.0   refresh=0.0    interval= 62.7|62.7   uptime=25%  trigger=35%
    maghias_misguided_quill           : start=3.0   refresh=0.0    interval=121.4|121.4  uptime=20%
    pyroclasm                         : start=20.6  refresh=0.0    interval= 14.4|14.4   uptime=67%  benefit=53%
  Procs:
    102.3 |   2.95sec : judgement_of_wisdom
      8.0 |  40.73sec : life_tap
      5.7 |  35.71sec : nibelung
  Gains:
     6436.9 : blessing_of_wisdom   (overflow=1.6%)
    27529.9 : initial_mana       
     7856.8 : judgement_of_wisdom
    29265.8 : life_tap             (overflow=13.8%)
    16236.7 : replenishment        (overflow=1.5%)
    29402.7 : soul_leech         
  Pet "imp" Gains:
     3601.1 : blessing_of_wisdom   (overflow=44.9%)
    17366.9 : initial_mana       
     4889.1 : judgement_of_wisdom
    12657.1 : mp5_regen            (overflow=46.4%)
     8860.9 : replenishment        (overflow=14.8%)

Player: destro_immolate human warlock destruction 80
  DPS: 10058.1  Error=26.0  Range=1270  DPR=30.6  RPS=328.3/245.8  (mana)
  Origin: current.xml
  Core Stats:  strength=320|69(10)  agility=329|77(10)  stamina=1755|1285(1147)  intellect=1551|1306(1147)  spirit=923|711(526)  health=24591|20214  mana=27530|23745
  Spell Stats:  power=3917|2873(2873)  hit=14.23%|13.23%(347)  crit=34.94%|27.40%(682)  penetration=0|0(0)  haste=26.46%|16.93%(555)  mp5=0|0(0)
  Attack Stats  power=1186|59(0)  hit=11.58%|10.58%(347)  crit=29.02%|19.00%(682)  expertise=0.00|0.00(0)  penetration=0.00%|0.00%(0)  haste=44.52%|16.93%(555)
  Defense Stats:  armor=4598|2286(2132)  blockv=160|35(0)  defense=0|0(0)  miss=0.00%|0.00%  dodge=0.00%|0.00%(0)  parry=0.00%|0.00%(0)  block=0.00%|0.00%(0) crit=13.90%|13.90%
  Glyphs: conflagrate/incinerate/immolate
  Priorities:
    flask,type=frost_wyrm/food,type=fish_feast/fire_stone/fel_armor/summon_pet,imp
    snapshot_stats/life_tap,buff_refresh=1/use_item,name=maghias_misguided_quill
    conflagrate/immolate/chaos_bolt/curse_of_doom,time_to_die>=80/incinerate
    corruption,time_to_die>=20,moving=1/curse_of_agony,time_to_die>=30,moving=1
    life_tap
  Actions:
    chaos_bolt     Count= 21.1|14.47sec  DPE= 13772|10%  DPET=  9784  DPR=  56.9  pDPS= 968  Miss=0.00%  Hit=8103|6866|9755  Crit=16993|14350|20387|63.8%
    conflagrate    Count= 28.4|10.63sec  DPE= 16115|15%  DPET= 12993  DPR=  29.0  pDPS=1529  Miss=0.00%  Hit=5443|5146|6527  Crit=11350|10755|13642|73.7%  TickCount=85  MissTick=0.0%  Tick=1178|810|1438  CritTick=2459|1692|3006|73.4%
    curse_of_doom  Count=  4.0|61.58sec  DPE= 18833| 2%  DPET= 14363  DPR=  32.6  pDPS= 251  Miss=0.00%  TickCount=4  MissTick=0.0%  Tick=18833|16831|20847
    immolate       Count= 19.4|15.83sec  DPE= 12641| 8%  DPET= 10512  DPR=  21.5  pDPS= 818  Miss=0.00%  Hit=2202|2030|2591  Crit= 4594| 4242| 5415|57.4%  TickCount=94  MissTick=0.0%  Tick=1868|1701|2286
    incinerate     Count=131.4| 2.24sec  DPE= 11357|50%  DPET=  7373  DPR=  23.4  pDPS=4982  Miss=0.00%  Hit=6708|5421|8279  Crit=14030|11330|17303|63.5%
    valkyr_smite   Count= 87.9| 2.66sec  DPE=  1911| 6%  DPET=     1  DPR=   0.0  pDPS= 561  Miss=0.00%  Hit=1793|1793|1793  Crit= 2689| 2689| 2689|13.2%
   imp  (DPS=951.3)
    fire_bolt      Count=161.3| 1.85sec  DPE=  1764| 9%  DPET=   951  DPR=   9.8  pDPS= 949  Miss=0.00%  Hit=1339|1298|1495  Crit= 2678| 2596| 2991|31.7%
  Constant Buffs: arcane_brilliance/blessing_of_kings/blessing_of_might/blessing_of_wisdom/divine_spirit/fel_armor/fortitude
  Constant Buffs: heroic_presence/mark_of_the_wild/replenishment
  Dynamic Buffs:
    ashen_band_of_endless_destruction : start=4.6   refresh=0.0    interval= 70.2|70.2   uptime=15%  trigger=10%
    backdraft                         : start=28.4  refresh=0.0    interval= 10.6|10.6   uptime=48%  benefit=44%
    bloodlust                         : start=1.0   refresh=0.0    interval=  0.0|0.0    uptime=13%
    empowered_imp                     : start=49.9  refresh=1.3    interval=  5.9|5.8    uptime=16%  benefit=25%
    eye_of_the_broodmother            : start=1.0   refresh=291.2  interval=  0.0|1.0    uptime=100%
    lightweave_embroidery             : start=5.0   refresh=0.0    interval= 62.7|62.7   uptime=25%  trigger=35%
    maghias_misguided_quill           : start=3.0   refresh=0.0    interval=120.7|120.7  uptime=20%
    pyroclasm                         : start=21.0  refresh=0.0    interval= 14.3|14.3   uptime=69%  benefit=53%
  Procs:
    104.3 |   2.91sec : judgement_of_wisdom
      3.0 |  31.43sec : life_tap
      5.8 |  35.37sec : nibelung
  Gains:
     6514.7 : blessing_of_wisdom 
    27529.9 : initial_mana       
     8043.8 : judgement_of_wisdom
    12781.3 : life_tap           
    16427.1 : replenishment      
    29871.7 : soul_leech         
  Pet "imp" Gains:
      682.7 : blessing_of_wisdom   (overflow=89.6%)
     7203.8 : initial_mana       
     1691.5 : judgement_of_wisdom
    25320.5 : mp5_regen            (overflow=46.4%)
     1284.3 : replenishment        (overflow=70.2%)

Player: destro_imp human warlock destruction 80
  DPS: 10048.8  Error=25.4  Range=1288  DPR=30.6  RPS=328.2/245.7  (mana)
  Origin: current.xml
  Core Stats:  strength=320|69(10)  agility=329|77(10)  stamina=1755|1285(1147)  intellect=1551|1306(1147)  spirit=923|711(526)  health=24591|20214  mana=27530|23745
  Spell Stats:  power=3917|2873(2873)  hit=14.23%|13.23%(347)  crit=34.94%|27.40%(682)  penetration=0|0(0)  haste=26.46%|16.93%(555)  mp5=0|0(0)
  Attack Stats  power=1186|59(0)  hit=11.58%|10.58%(347)  crit=29.02%|19.00%(682)  expertise=0.00|0.00(0)  penetration=0.00%|0.00%(0)  haste=44.52%|16.93%(555)
  Defense Stats:  armor=4598|2286(2132)  blockv=160|35(0)  defense=0|0(0)  miss=0.00%|0.00%  dodge=0.00%|0.00%(0)  parry=0.00%|0.00%(0)  block=0.00%|0.00%(0) crit=13.90%|13.90%
  Glyphs: conflagrate/incinerate/imp
  Priorities:
    flask,type=frost_wyrm/food,type=fish_feast/fire_stone/fel_armor/summon_pet,imp
    snapshot_stats/life_tap,buff_refresh=1/use_item,name=maghias_misguided_quill
    conflagrate/immolate/chaos_bolt/curse_of_doom,time_to_die>=80/incinerate
    corruption,time_to_die>=20,moving=1/curse_of_agony,time_to_die>=30,moving=1
    life_tap
  Actions:
    chaos_bolt     Count= 21.1|14.46sec  DPE= 13731|10%  DPET=  9738  DPR=  56.7  pDPS= 965  Miss=0.00%  Hit=8123|6866|9755  Crit=16973|14350|20387|63.4%
    conflagrate    Count= 28.4|10.64sec  DPE= 15099|14%  DPET= 12181  DPR=  27.2  pDPS=1432  Miss=0.00%  Hit=5096|4826|6122  Crit=10652|10087|12795|73.2%  TickCount=85  MissTick=0.0%  Tick=1106|810|1349  CritTick=2314|1692|2819|73.4%
    curse_of_doom  Count=  4.0|61.55sec  DPE= 18816| 2%  DPET= 14366  DPR=  32.6  pDPS= 251  Miss=0.00%  TickCount=4  MissTick=0.0%  Tick=18816|16831|20847
    immolate       Count= 19.4|15.83sec  DPE= 12064| 8%  DPET= 10032  DPR=  20.5  pDPS= 780  Miss=0.00%  Hit=2203|2030|2591  Crit= 4590| 4242| 5415|57.1%  TickCount=94  MissTick=0.0%  Tick=1752|1595|2144
    incinerate     Count=131.4| 2.24sec  DPE= 11336|49%  DPET=  7359  DPR=  23.4  pDPS=4973  Miss=0.00%  Hit=6706|5421|8279  Crit=14024|11330|17303|63.3%
    valkyr_smite   Count= 87.2| 2.59sec  DPE=  1908| 6%  DPET=     1  DPR=   0.0  pDPS= 555  Miss=0.00%  Hit=1793|1793|1793  Crit= 2689| 2689| 2689|12.8%
   imp  (DPS=1094.7)
    fire_bolt      Count=161.3| 1.85sec  DPE=  2030|11%  DPET=  1095  DPR=  11.3  pDPS=1093  Miss=0.00%  Hit=1545|1498|1725  Crit= 3089| 2995| 3451|31.4%
  Constant Buffs: arcane_brilliance/blessing_of_kings/blessing_of_might/blessing_of_wisdom/divine_spirit/fel_armor/fortitude
  Constant Buffs: heroic_presence/mark_of_the_wild/replenishment
  Dynamic Buffs:
    ashen_band_of_endless_destruction : start=4.6   refresh=0.0    interval= 70.4|70.4   uptime=15%  trigger=10%
    backdraft                         : start=28.4  refresh=0.0    interval= 10.6|10.6   uptime=48%  benefit=44%
    bloodlust                         : start=1.0   refresh=0.0    interval=  0.0|0.0    uptime=13%
    empowered_imp                     : start=49.5  refresh=1.2    interval=  6.0|5.8    uptime=16%  benefit=25%
    eye_of_the_broodmother            : start=1.0   refresh=290.4  interval=  0.0|1.0    uptime=100%
    lightweave_embroidery             : start=5.0   refresh=0.0    interval= 62.5|62.5   uptime=25%  trigger=35%
    maghias_misguided_quill           : start=3.0   refresh=0.0    interval=120.7|120.7  uptime=20%
    pyroclasm                         : start=20.8  refresh=0.0    interval= 14.3|14.3   uptime=68%  benefit=53%
  Procs:
    104.3 |   2.91sec : judgement_of_wisdom
      3.0 |  31.46sec : life_tap
      5.8 |  34.71sec : nibelung
  Gains:
     6514.3 : blessing_of_wisdom 
    27529.9 : initial_mana       
     8044.7 : judgement_of_wisdom
    12802.6 : life_tap           
    16426.6 : replenishment      
    29833.7 : soul_leech         
  Pet "imp" Gains:
      685.7 : blessing_of_wisdom   (overflow=89.5%)
     7203.8 : initial_mana       
     1682.6 : judgement_of_wisdom
    25323.6 : mp5_regen            (overflow=46.4%)
     1289.9 : replenishment        (overflow=70.1%)

Auras and De-Buffs:
  Constant: abominations_might/arcane_empowerment/battle_shout/bleeding/blood_frenzy/blood_plague/crypt_fever
  Constant: curse_of_elements/devotion_aura/earth_and_moon/ebon_plaguebringer/elemental_oath/expose_armor/faerie_fire
  Constant: ferocious_inspiration/flametongue_totem/frost_fever/heart_of_the_crusader/horn_of_winter/hunters_mark
  Constant: improved_faerie_fire/improved_icy_talons/improved_moonkin/improved_scorch/improved_shadow_bolt
  Constant: infected_wounds/insect_swarm/judgement_of_wisdom/judgements_of_the_just/leader_of_the_pack
  Constant: mana_spring_totem/mangle/master_poisoner/misery/moonkin/poisoned/rampage/sanctified_retribution
  Constant: savage_combat/strength_of_earth/sunder_armor/swift_retribution/thunder_clap/totem_of_wrath
  Constant: totem_of_wrath_debuff/trauma/trueshot/unleashed_rage/windfury_totem/winters_chill/wrath_of_air
  Dynamic:

Waiting:
    All players active 100% of the time.

Baseline Performance:
  TotalEvents   = 4606675
  MaxEventQueue = 61
  TargetHealth  = 9021045
  SimSeconds    = 299936
  CpuSeconds    = 1.170
  SpeedUp       = 256356

RNG global Actual/Expected Roll=0.998915 Range=1.000000 Gauss=1.000042

Sample simc file:

rawr=current.xml
name=destro
glyphs=conflagrate/incinerate/life_tap
actions=flask,type=frost_wyrm
actions+=/food,type=fish_feast
actions+=/fire_stone
actions+=/fel_armor
actions+=/summon_pet,imp
actions+=/snapshot_stats
actions+=/life_tap,buff_refresh=1
#actions+=/wild_magic_potion,bloodlust=1
actions+=/use_item,name=maghias_misguided_quill
actions+=/conflagrate
actions+=/immolate
actions+=/chaos_bolt
actions+=/curse_of_doom,time_to_die>=80
actions+=/incinerate
#actions+=/life_tap,mana_percentage<=20,buff_refresh=1,moving=1
actions+=/corruption,time_to_die>=20,moving=1
actions+=/curse_of_agony,time_to_die>=30,moving=1
actions+=/life_tap

dedmonwakeen · 03/05/10, 8:30 AM

Originally Posted by Demonfire

I noticed something that strikes me as odd. When i simulate my warlock and calculate scale factors with standard options for demonology under 3.3.2 and 3.3.3 with Life Tap/Felguard/Quick Decay and Life Tap/Felguard/Metamorphosis glyphs, the following scale factors are shown for Stamina:
3.3.2 - Life Tap/Felguard/Metamorphosis: 0.2173
3.3.2 - Life Tap/Felguard/Quick Decay: 0.4088 (!!)
3.3.3 - Life Tap/Felguard/Metamorphosis: 0.1956
3.3.3 - Life Tap/Felguard/Quick Decay: 0.2222
while the SP-scaling stays relatively the same (+/- 0.05). How can this be if the only DPS-boost stamina gives is through more sp?

Please open an Issue and include the relevant .simc files. If you are running from the GUI, it will generate a simc_gui.simc each time you press Simulate.

tkoreaper · 03/08/10, 4:26 PM

I just ran simulations using the latest release of simcraft which includes all the recent changes that were discovered/made to this day. Here are the results:

The specs with the "Immolate" tagged on the end are using the Immolate glyph instead of Imp.

And changing the fight style to Helter Skelter gives these results:

• Zakalwe · 03/10/10, 2:24 PM

It's modeling it correctly, yes. Why were you expecting it to be much higher? It's only got a 15% chance to proc every 3 seconds.

Seiru · 03/10/10, 3:02 PM

Well, forgive me if my math is fuzzy, but given that there's no ICD on the effect:

15%/100% = average of 6.6~ ticks of UA to proc the effect

6.6~ * 3 sec per tick = average of 20 sec to proc each effect

10 sec duration / 20 sec time to proc = 50% uptime

I've probably overlooked something, but I'm not sure what.

matthewseidl · 03/10/10, 3:48 PM

Originally Posted by Seiru

Well, forgive me if my math is fuzzy, but given that there's no ICD on the effect:

15%/100% = average of 6.6~ ticks of UA to proc the effect

6.6~ * 3 sec per tick = average of 20 sec to proc each effect

10 sec duration / 20 sec time to proc = 50% uptime

I've probably overlooked something, but I'm not sure what.

At any point in time, the buff will be up if its been triggered in the last 10 seconds. In the last 10 seconds, there were 3 chances to trigger the buff, at 15% each. So the chance of it not being up is 0.85^3 ... or 0.61. So the chance it is up is 1 - 0.61. 0.39. So hitting a 37% uptime seems perfectly reasonable in practice with the occasional missed or delayed tick on refresh.