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In the past week I've been writing a mod that lets you plug in the scaling values obtained from simulationcrafts just like the ones in this post, and once those are saved, it displays the dps gain of the tooltipped item in the tooltip itself.

If you want to take a look at it, you can find it at RhadaTip. As soon as I get enough posts to open a thread myself, I'll open one in the addons forum and come back to your every questions!

Kinda like Pawn?

Hodir: just normal destruction is fine, I don't think you'll get that much more (if at all) by going shadowbolt.

Vezax: Probably something like this:
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warl...0&version=9947

Its basically a demonology build which uses the imp, without the felguard and mana feed. The reason for this being that the imp benefits from standing in a crash (!) and regens mana normally . Also, this means that you can use the shadowbolt glyph and soul fire (cheap spell, mana wise! (9% base mana, compared to 17% for shadow bolt and 14% for incinerate, 7% chaos bolt, 17% immolate)).

tbh, I got a vezax hard mode kill (25 man) being just destruction with a twist. (took points from the mana regeneration and put them in affliction / improved curse of weakness because our arms warrior complained he couldn't get the 5 points in improved demoralizing shout and reach his 'must have' talent points). Wanded the last bit of vezax down .

It looks as though their intention is to reduce pvp damage while keeping pve dps about the same. I would not expect it
to have any significant impact on viability of the spec.

I agree, it'll probably be more or less about the same. It seems like they are encouraging destro to use the imp even more than before.

There is also the lifetap glyph change, is this going to change the glyph set up or is it designed for affliction?

I took a damage report from simcraft for my gear and this 5% from two spells resulted in a 32dps loss from Chaos Bolt and 156dps loss from incinerate.

Taking out Empowered imp resulted in a net dps loss of 119 for 20% crit bonus. I'm not very good with probability, but considering my lowest crit rate was 42%, there is a 38% chance that my spells did not crit with the old Empowered Imp proc. I am of the opinion that this will result in at least a wash, if not a net increase.

There is that. But also, it may be something to look at with 3/13/55 being a better spec choice than 0/13/58, due to the lifetap glyph change and the changes to replenishment. This may also affect our optimal gear choices, since we won't have to gear for hit as much.

Those are live numbers, correct, not sims for the 3.2 patch? Because if so, you'll have changes with empowered imp proccing the same amount of time, but giving us a guaranteed crit every time.

Initial tests show the destro changes being a DPS increase, about 2-3%.

This while using Life Tap Glyph?

That means the change to the formula for haunt on the Affliction thread should be (and needed updating anyway because it counted scorch as 10%)

(1+0.15(Shadow Mastery))
*1.13(CoE)
*1.03(Malediction)
*1.03(Sanctified Retribution)
*(1+0.12*0.35) (Death's Embrace) //1.4365424111
*( (645+753)/2(base) = 699 + (1291.7142=(1.5/3.5*spell power(3014)))) //1990.71428571
*(1+0.26(base)+.05(shadow bolt) + 0.03(heart))

2667.5571

cast time: 1.5s*(1/(1+Haste)) = 1.5*(1/1+0.15+0.0421+0.0183) = 1.20s / 1.12s
damage / cast time = 2381.7474

*using info such as spell power and crit chance from the Affliction thread's first post