Some random thoughts I have been mulling over:

0/13/58 is lagging by about 5% at the moment, which is roughly equal to the increase in damage it would receive if Fire and Brimstone lost the now archaic "if the immolate on the target has 5 or fewer seconds remaining" qualifier. If I'm doing my maths correctly, removing that would a) Make Fire and Brimstone a talent people want to take, b) increase the DPET of Conflagrate by about 17% and c) increase the uptime of Pyroclasm by about 17% as well. I call the current wording archaic because it dates from a time when there was no conflagrate glyph, and therefore it was desirable to try and time conflagrate in that 5 second window in the first place.

3/52/16 and 0/56/15 are assuming that you are always in range to use immolation aura when it's available. That necessitates that you either conduct the entire fight from melee range, which is both unsafe on some bosses and impractical on others, or alternatively charge into melee and then retreat (or teleport away) later. Either way, I anticipate that the effective in-game output of these specs will be a little lower than the simulation predicts, except under ideal circumstances.

Decimation is headed for a change of some sort, I cannot see the existing implementation being permitted to go live. The devs are quite intolerant (and I think rightly so) of abilities which have an effectiveness that is influenced by latency to some degree. Arcane mages will know exactly what I am referring to.

I was referring to the talent, not the buff.

Please update simcraft to reflect these results for conflag.

http://elitistjerks.com/1132079-post500.html

Thanks.

I've just tried and got 5 procs (spamming coa) :
09:18:41
09:19:27 00:00:46
09:20:12 00:00:45
09:21:03 00:00:51
09:21:37 00:00:34
09:21:52 00:00:15
(avg time betweend 2 procs : 38sec)

It seams that there is not internal cooldown.
Based on my (very very small) set of data it should be around the proc should be around ... 4% (38/1.5) ?
But I agree that we need a bigger set of data .

Maybe the proc rate hasn't changed from the live one and no internal cooldown.

If you would have read the previous posts, you would have understood since I asked the exact same question earlier. The simulartor assumes that when you spec hit cap instead of gear it, you switch 75 hit rating vs 75 crit rating (I think those was the numbers).

Go read this post.

Thanks, re-reading that page. I'm not exactly sure how fair it is to mantain the ilvl by swapping the best scaling stat with one of the worst stats though, but thanks for the link.

EDIT: just for the sake of it, I swapped the crit gain from the 3% hit from talents with a haste gain. The result is a 6.4 dps increase (the sum of the used crit and haste net 600,53312 dps, swapping the crit gain to a haste gain to preserve the ilvl nets 606,99652), so a very marginal one. Converting the full free budget in spellpower would up the 03_52_16 value more, converting it in intellect would up 03_52_16 less, I guess we can say that with crit being in the middle of the spectrum, it's a reasonable assumption, so I'll retract my previous comment and agree with the numbers here.

My tests show that it has a very high proc rate with a 45 sec CD

PTR 0.1.0.9637
20:01:39> [Your] Lightweave applied [You].
20:02:25> [Your] Lightweave applied [You].
20:03:10> [Your] Lightweave applied [You].
20:04:00> [Your] Lightweave applied [You].
20:04:45> [Your] Lightweave applied [You].
20:05:33> [Your] Lightweave applied [You].
20:06:20> [Your] Lightweave applied [You].
20:07:07> [Your] Lightweave applied [You].
20:07:55> [Your] Lightweave applied [You].
20:08:42> [Your] Lightweave applied [You].
20:09:31> [Your] Lightweave applied [You].

Excellent. I'm glad I gave Blizzard the chance to do something with Tailoring. I hope it goes live as it is.

Been playing around with the new talentcalc today and a 30/0/41 shadowdestro with coe+corruption+SP for pyroclasm+SB spam looks like it could do some decent damage.

Has anyone done simulations with this to se how it would turn out?

That would make tailoring overpowered :/
Between
20:01:39 and 20:09:31 there are 10 non-overlapping procs.
Total time in seconds:
(7*60) + 52=472
Uptime in seconds:
10*15=150
Uptime in %:
150/472=32%

32% of 250 Spellpower = ~79.45 Spellpower.
If I went by scale factors from post 1:
23 haste * 0.9 = 20.7 dps
79.45 spellpower * 1.29 = 102.49 dps
DPS gain from lightweave = 81.79 DPS

In comparison, enhcanting gives you:
38 * 1.29 = 49.02 DPS

Why can't blizzard just... Make tailoring balanced? It *really* wouldn't be difficult.

I doubt that shadow destruction would still be viable. There are just too many talents in the destruction tree that involve fire.

To be honest, I can see them buffing all profession bonuses. If you take a look at Jewelcrafting in 3.1, with the new epic gems, the bonus of using Dragon's Eyes is going to go down significantly.

Considering it has been massively underpowered for so long and that new patterns will be out for other professions i have no problem with it being OP. At least for a time. Lets be honest here, right now this one ability is the only reason someone has to level tailoring to 450 and this only helps casters.

That does not make the entire profession OP. It makes it viable for the people already at 450 and have had nothing to do with it since they made their last glacial bag (which is still not a profession only perk).

31/0/40

Yeah this would make more sense to me if it was to be tried at all, the added fire talents in destro would strengthen it, but it's probably not better then deep affliction.

Luckily - at least for us jewelcrafters that would change their profession if its subpar - those are not "epic gems" as we know them from bt/mh. More likely some kind of quest reward similiar to tbc's mgt ones, as they're unique-equipped(as can be seen here) and all the cuts have the same gem name(stormjewel) which seems really unlikely for jewelcrafting.

Not really. You can only have one epic gem.

Should should be a non-argument. Something being underpowered at any point in time is not a good reason to make it overpowered for the next period of time. If that methodology were used we'd never even come close to approaching a balanced game.

As for the rest of your post, if other professions are indeed also getting buffed- then yes it makes sense. However no other professions currently seem to be getting buffed.

That wouldn't necessarily be productive as the DG is not only the highest dps pet but also makes the largest difference for affliction specs as they invest nothing (or almost nothing) in their pets while all other Warlock specs invest some significant number of talent points buffing their pet and creating synergies.

It's been demonstrated that DG is a loss for some specs, so it's only been included from specs that gain dps from it.

useing dual specs to run both 41/30 and haunt doomguard when cooldown is up has been discussed.

If you read through this thread, the topic of adding DG to each spec has been brought up several times and explained why it's not logical to do so. Mainly, for specs that use FG or a buffed up imp (like 0/40/31), it's not a DPS gain to use a DG.

And yes, the graph does show that affliction with a DG summoned is the highest DPS spec. Obviously you can't have a DG out for the majority of fights, but it's worth knowing the DPS potential of affliction even if it's only available for 15 minutes every hour.