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Old 03/02/09, 3:09 PM   #331
Eeks
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Nordrassil
I don't think the life tap glyph has been implemented yet so no testing can be done quite yet

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Old 03/02/09, 3:42 PM   #332
Darklawdog
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Arthas
GC has commented on DoT crits likely being 200%.

World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums -> Change Ruin to affect all spells

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Old 03/02/09, 4:55 PM   #333
Naforce
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Frostmane (EU)
Originally Posted by Darklawdog View Post
This would result in a somewhat of a 150 dps or so increase I guess? Basically putting all specs on par. I'm not sure what I'm going for as specs yet, I do know one of my specs will be 0/56/15 for the raid buffs as well as good dps, however I've always liked affliction but with all the lag and such in the beginning of ulduar maybe there are better choices..

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Old 03/02/09, 5:30 PM   #334
supplicium
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Originally Posted by Naforce View Post
This would result in a somewhat of a 150 dps or so increase I guess? Basically putting all specs on par. I'm not sure what I'm going for as specs yet, I do know one of my specs will be 0/56/15 for the raid buffs as well as good dps, however I've always liked affliction but with all the lag and such in the beginning of ulduar maybe there are better choices..
It would put aff and demo builds on level ground, destro still has the intrinsic problem of A) no execute and B) poor scaling in it's lower third of the tree. Though To be honest the trees are closer than they have been in a long time and thats really good to see.

The character linked in your profile appears to be below level 10. This may account for your poor Patchwerk DPS.

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Old 03/02/09, 6:22 PM   #335
Naforce
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Originally Posted by supplicium View Post
It would put aff and demo builds on level ground, destro still has the intrinsic problem of A) no execute and B) poor scaling in it's lower third of the tree. Though To be honest the trees are closer than they have been in a long time and thats really good to see.
It's too bad some scale significantly worse then others, once we know what stats T8 brings we'll know which specs land on top in ulduar-gear.

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Old 03/02/09, 6:43 PM   #336
Darkmantle
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Spinebreaker
Originally Posted by Zakalwe View Post
Yep. DE needs a buff
The blue quote was classic.

We realise that spending a GCD on Demonic Empowerment is a dps loss so we are going to take it off the GCD.

Not

We realise that spending a GCD on Demonic Empowerment is a dps loss so we are doing to buff it a bit to make it actually worth casting in a raid environment.

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Old 03/02/09, 10:12 PM   #337
sandwiches
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Hey Zakalwe,
How would the Meta spec do without Soul fire or with a SB,X,SF weave instead of SB,SF?

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Old 03/02/09, 10:19 PM   #338
Trickykid
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Originally Posted by sandwiches View Post
Hey Zakalwe,
How would the Meta spec do without Soul fire or with a SB,X,SF weave instead of SB,SF?
Right up the page: http://elitistjerks.com/1129290-post336.html. Maybe it's worth cluttering the original post a bit more to prevent the same question multiple times!

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Old 03/02/09, 10:21 PM   #339
sandwiches
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Originally Posted by Trickykid View Post
Right up the page: http://elitistjerks.com/1129290-post336.html. Maybe it's worth cluttering the original post a bit more to prevent the same question multiple times!
Sorry! I'm an idiot! I actually saw that chart and completely missed it. Thanks for responding.

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Old 03/03/09, 12:19 AM   #340
shanrak06
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Alleria (EU)
is there any chance to try 3/44/24 build?
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warl...0&version=9614

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Old 03/03/09, 1:27 AM   #341
Eeks
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I probably wrote this wrong (I can't really read C++)
But basically have it so first priority is keeping Haunt up and second priority is keeping the life tap glyph effect up. Maybe it looks like this? Could you try running that? I feel it'd be a marginal dps increase.

warlock=Warlock_T8_53_00_18
level=80
talents=http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warl...0&version=9614
actions=flask,type=frost_wyrm/food,type=tender_shoveltusk_steak/spell_stone/fel_armor/summon_pet,succubus
actions+=/haunt,debuff=1/life_tap,life_tap_glyph=1/curse_of_agony/corruption/unstable_affliction
actions+=/drain_soul,health_percentage<=25,interrupt=1/immolate/shadow_bolt/life_tap
Caster_T7_Base_Gear.simcraft
glyph_haunt=1
glyph_curse_of_agony=1
glyph_life_tap=1


It might be life_tap_glyph=0?

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Old 03/03/09, 1:57 AM   #342
 Zakalwe
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Balnazzar
I've tried that already, it's a marginal DPS loss.

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Old 03/03/09, 2:26 AM   #343
Eeks
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Hmmm... for the T7 base caster gear only 350 spirit is being used. I feel like that's much lower than most warlocks have. I wonder what the breaking point for that rotation is to be a dps gain.

A seemingly ideal gear setup, assuming taking the new suppression, would yield around 575 spirit before buffs

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Old 03/03/09, 2:51 AM   #344
Naforce
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Originally Posted by Eeks View Post
Hmmm... for the T7 base caster gear only 350 spirit is being used. I feel like that's much lower than most warlocks have. I wonder what the breaking point for that rotation is to be a dps gain.

A seemingly ideal gear setup, assuming taking the new suppression, would yield around 575 spirit before buffs
I feel most of the stats in there are a bit low for wellgeared warlocks... and I think it changes things too, since they all scale differently! I would prefer optimum stats since we are trying to digure out max dps output, right?

Last edited by Naforce : 03/03/09 at 2:58 AM.

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Old 03/03/09, 3:19 AM   #345
 Zakalwe
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Balnazzar
It's important to realize that the stat values are what you get from gear, it should not include base values etc. As an example, I've been working towards this gear set in 3.0.X: chardev.org v6 ~ a World of Warcraft character planner

That set has 360 spirit from gear, not very different from the 350 spirit being used for my simulations.

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