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Old 03/10/09, 2:04 PM   #601
Shodan30
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Undead Warlock
 
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Kael'thas
In the 41/30 build, since you are buffing your felguard as much as you can, what would the dps look like if you went 1 point in molten core instead of 2 and put that other point into empowerment?

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Old 03/10/09, 2:07 PM   #602
Norber
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Gnome Warlock
 
Kael'thas
I keep seeing this build posted as the meta ruin build. http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warl...00000000000000

I was wondering why no one is moving points of of Suppression and into imp Agony. Then move the remaining point into aftermath also removing 1 pt from Cataclysm and moving it to aftermath as well. The build will look like this.
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warl...00000000000000

The reasons why i think this is better. Hit from gear is cheap and abundant even in tier 7 content, Mana is almost a non issue. as there will be 5 class/specks providing replenishment. Agony and Immolate will be in your priority list anyway why not boost their damage. I do not have the ability to test these in Simulationcraft ( lack of technical knowledge ). I do believe these will lead to a fairly decent DPS increase for the Meta/Ruin spec.

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Old 03/10/09, 2:48 PM   #603
MarcAntony
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Human Warlock
 
Alexstrasza
Originally Posted by Liania View Post
No wonder you get out dps'ed. None of your gear is gemmed or enchanted. And you got immortal titel... Carried much ? lol
As stated, its the armory

My normal raid set stats with FA and Spellstone are aournd 2420dmg, 11.5% crit, and 20% haste with 2pc (and hitcapped of course). And I came into Wrath way late after a 22 month retirement from WoW (hence no SoH rep and inferior gear)

Still.........I top the meters in every Naxx encounter, sometimes Maly, and 3D if I cheat (which I dont). But in 10man 3D I just get pwned on Tenebron dps by our top Hunter and Magii (~10% behind on Tenebron dps) who have Turning Tides, IotDS, etc etc.

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Old 03/10/09, 2:59 PM   #604
Loot
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Sporeggar (EU)
Zakalwe, remove the debuff=1 from affliction template and you get quite a dps increase. Why is that? Also, does the AI precast the spells like immo, ua, etc?

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Old 03/10/09, 3:02 PM   #605
supplicium
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Alterac Mountains
Originally Posted by Loot View Post
Zakalwe, remove the debuff=1 from affliction template and you get quite a dps increase. Why is that? Also, does the AI precast the spells like immo, ua, etc?
I believe it does which is why it was getting bugged with haunt some times. It works like this:


If the debuff has less than castime x left on it than cast else cast [priority spell] than cast debuff.

The character linked in your profile appears to be below level 10. This may account for your poor Patchwerk DPS.

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Old 03/10/09, 3:25 PM   #606
Emolate
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Mal'Ganis
Originally Posted by Norber View Post
I was wondering why no one is moving points of of Suppression and into imp Agony.
Because it's a DPS loss.

If you don't have to gem/gear for 3% hit you can gem/gear for more spellpower or other favorable stats. Improving CoA still doesn't make it as attractive as CoD.

Originally Posted by Zeln View Post
I'm pretty sure the only reason you're on this planet is the phone rang and startled your dad.

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Old 03/10/09, 3:37 PM   #607
Loot
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Sporeggar (EU)
Originally Posted by supplicium View Post
I believe it does which is why it was getting bugged with haunt some times. It works like this:


If the debuff has less than castime x left on it than cast else cast [priority spell] than cast debuff.
Okay, thats logical, thats what I do while playing too, but why removing this debuff=1 or making it debuff=0 *increases* the dps rather than decrease it?

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Old 03/10/09, 3:38 PM   #608
Ruic
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Dentarg
With the changes to affliction tree, how much DPS would it increase by if dots crit for 200% like they will most likely make it. I saw the charts before but im wondering how that has changed since the talent calc is different.

EDIT: nevermind i didn't look at the changes too hard... they already changed it

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Old 03/10/09, 3:41 PM   #609
henslaved
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Laughing Skull
How are you modelling Lifetap for the 41/30 build utilizing the glyph? Using it on cooldown, when needed, before the fight, etc.?

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Old 03/10/09, 4:16 PM   #610
 Zakalwe
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Balnazzar
When needed.

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Old 03/10/09, 4:22 PM   #611
Demi9OD
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Shadowmoon
I'd guess Decimation spec's would see the greatest benefit to dropping LT globals during execute. Does the current mana consumption modeled allow for 0 lifetaps for the last 35% of a fight provided you tap frequently enough to nearly top out before reaching 35%?

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Old 03/10/09, 4:37 PM   #612
Raugturi
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Korgath
Originally Posted by Shodan30 View Post
In the 41/30 build, since you are buffing your felguard as much as you can, what would the dps look like if you went 1 point in molten core instead of 2 and put that other point into empowerment?
Molten Core uptime drops by almost 25% and your Felguard gets about 2 extra swings per minute. Should be a DPS loss.

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Old 03/10/09, 5:07 PM   #613
gherkin
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Rexxar
Originally Posted by henslaved View Post
How are you modelling Lifetap for the 41/30 build utilizing the glyph? Using it on cooldown, when needed, before the fight, etc.?
Originally Posted by Zakalwe View Post
When needed.
This is the correct model. In a 5 minute fight, the difference between Lifetapping every 20 seconds and "As Needed" works out as almost balanced in a solo environment, and favoring "As Needed" in a raid environment (haste procs)

Quick example: In a 5 minute fight, 100% uptime is 15 Lifetaps, which results in a net gain of mana with the stats provided for simulationcraft projections. "As Needed" is approximately a 60% uptime (once per 32s), but you have time for 3-4 extra shadowbolts. Even without crits these bolts will make the gap between 100% and 60% almost zero. Factor in crits and haste procs (Heroism, Eradication) and we have a winner.

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Old 03/12/09, 3:59 AM   #614
Anyakfe
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Human Warlock
 
Vol'jin (EU)
Could you please add Darkmoon card : Death to the available trinkets ([Darkmoon Card: Death]) ?
It has been buffed from 744-956 to 1750-2250.
I don't think it will make it *the* trinket, but il will make it a little less useless.

EDIT:
Adding also Lightweave Embroidery - Spell - World of Warcraft will make me very happy too .

Last edited by Anyakfe : 03/12/09 at 4:16 AM.

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Old 03/12/09, 10:02 AM   #615
Talimar
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Undead Warlock
 
Kazzak (EU)
With the recent nerf to soul siphon, how does drain soul below 25% compare to sticking to shadowbolt?

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