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Old 07/28/11, 3:54 AM   #316
Schryver
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Orc Warrior
 
Burning Legion
Originally Posted by Gulvak View Post
It looks like DW will now be effected by damage reduction and presumably amplification effects.

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I'm curious as to if anyone is seeing buffed deep wounds on alyzrazor and the like?
It was essentially my first time flying in the air tonight so not sure what the percentage would have been before the change, but DW was my second-best ability on our kill with 15.9% of my damage (melee swings were first with 16.5%). I'm Arms btw.

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Old 07/28/11, 5:16 PM   #317
Gulvak
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Dwarf Warrior
 
Antonidas
Originally Posted by Schryver View Post
It was essentially my first time flying in the air tonight so not sure what the percentage would have been before the change, but DW was my second-best ability on our kill with 15.9% of my damage (melee swings were first with 16.5%). I'm Arms btw.
I feel like deep wounds is indeed benefiting from damage increase effects. It didn't occur to me but the most surefire way to test this would be tanking on Alyzrazor. So I'll check and edit in after I run it tonight.

Defintely getting more damage out of Deep Wounds on Alyzrazor.

Last edited by Gulvak : 07/29/11 at 3:00 AM.

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Old 07/28/11, 6:34 PM   #318
Elerine
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Night Elf Warrior
 
Uldaman
I do have a question:

For gemming as Fury, I'm currently using the Heroic version of Alpha Bracers. It has a yellow socket bonus that has a +10 Mastery rating socket bonus.

Is it worth gemming for that socket bonus or is it better off just dropping a +40 Strength gem on it instead?

Also, to avoid asking similiar questions in the near future, would that be the same answer if the socket bonus was either Hit or Crit?

Currently can't find a solid answer to this.

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Old 07/28/11, 7:10 PM   #319
Ulrezaj
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Tauren Warrior
 
Stormreaver
Generally the only socket bonus worth using anything other than +40str for is a +20 str bonus. Anything else is not worth the loss of str. Since there are a number of different colors/bonuses that can occur with any given piece of gear, the best way to get an answer for sure is to sim it or use Landsoul's spreadsheet to check.
40str for anything other than +20str socket bonus is a good general rule though.

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Old 07/28/11, 9:40 PM   #320
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Worgen Warrior
 
Alterac Mountains
You can use 20 STR + 20 Hit or 20 Crit for a 10 STR bonus!

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Old 08/01/11, 7:09 AM   #321
Ivanvenove
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Azralon
@Arms

I've read about Arms recently, but I did not understand if as Arms is worth to stance dance(nowdays 4.2) and if it is, which is the best macros to use on it?

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Old 08/01/11, 9:32 AM   #322
FearMeMortals
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Barthilas
#showtooltip Colossus Smash
/cast [stance:3] Colossus Smash; Berserker Stance;
/startattack

Edit for each ability and remember to change to stance:1 for battle stance abilities.

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Old 08/01/11, 5:48 PM   #323
Schryver
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Orc Warrior
 
Burning Legion
Thinking about finally trying out the stance dancing for Arms tonight. What is the best way to deal with Taste for Blood procs? I'm assuming you are supposed to delay the first Overpower until the last second to get the double overpower off (since they never implemented that Ptr change with the OP cooldown) and minimize the time in Battle Stance correct?

Also, did we ever decide the best way to deal with execute and the executioner buff below 20%? For Arms, is it best to spam execute to get the 5 stacks right away? Or should I basically replace slam with execute and get those first 5 stacks more slowly but avoid delaying a MS and Overpower or two (what I am currently doing)? Thanks!

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Old 08/02/11, 7:34 PM   #324
Kuratorn
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Human Warrior
 
Kor'gall (EU)
Does Heroic Leap do increased damage if you use it with Colossus Smash up?

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Old 08/03/11, 11:39 AM   #325
Ivanvenove
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Azralon
What is the most common tool used for fury/arms warriors actually?

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Old 08/03/11, 4:52 PM   #326
Rynok
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Originally Posted by Kuratorn View Post
Does Heroic Leap do increased damage if you use it with Colossus Smash up?
Colossus Smash applies a de-buff to the target that allows all of the Warrior's attacks for the next 6 seconds to by-pass 100% of the target's armor. Theoretically, this affects all attacks made by the Warrior. Note, also, that it does not increase damage- it negates armor. A small point, but a point nonetheless.

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Old 08/07/11, 10:38 AM   #327
greez
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Orc Shaman
 
Ravencrest (EU)
Does anyone have any idea why there are no sub-2.6 weapons with strenght on them? I remember when I started playing WoW in late WotLK and was testing some weird stuff, I went for SMF Fury with PvP weapons, which included a quick OH.
Rage income was insane with it (double Mongoose also, just because I wanted to see if that makes sense) and I could match dps of better geared TG warriors, most of the time even being ahead with damage done.

To the point, is there any way for quick Agi OH to be somehow useful? Removal of sub-2.6 Str weapons was pretty annoying, at this point Im ready to try anything.

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Old 08/09/11, 4:50 AM   #328
Asmalya
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Gnome Warrior
 
Perenolde (EU)
Originally Posted by greez View Post
Does anyone have any idea why there are no sub-2.6 weapons with strenght on them? I remember when I started playing WoW in late WotLK and was testing some weird stuff, I went for SMF Fury with PvP weapons, which included a quick OH.
Rage income was insane with it (double Mongoose also, just because I wanted to see if that makes sense) and I could match dps of better geared TG warriors, most of the time even being ahead with damage done.

To the point, is there any way for quick Agi OH to be somehow useful? Removal of sub-2.6 Str weapons was pretty annoying, at this point Im ready to try anything.
Only point in using a fast offhand EVER was just to smoothen your rage gain before rage was normalized. While it would still help to get rage a little more constant it just does not make that lot sense anymore. And dont forget faster weaps = lower weap dmg.

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Old 08/10/11, 3:39 PM   #329
Bijaelo
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Gnome Warrior
 
Tarren Mill (EU)
I've been looking all over, so either i'm blind or it just isnt here to find:

What are the stat ratings currently being accepted as the stat weight for warriors? If several are accepted then i would love a name placed on who gave each of the values. (Aka: Landsoul or someone else.)

Note:
I know the stat priority but the values are missing for my own calculations.

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Old 08/10/11, 3:51 PM   #330
Runtime
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Troll Warrior
 
Hyjal
The stat weights change pretty dramatically with your current gear. The best way to find out is to run a SimulationCraft with your gear and turn on stat weights. Make sure you select "all deltas positive."

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