Thanks Runtime, that's a great explanation and I really appreciate it.

Just one thing though, I'm confused why people are saying that using Recklessness with AoK would be wasting crit. Because Recklessness only effects special crits, not hit white hits.

I have 27% crit raid buffed.

27% + 50% from Recklessness + ~2% crit from VoC + ~14% crit from AoK = 93% (special crit cap = 100% so I'm fine)

+10% on Bloodthirst from Cruelty in Fury talent tree (thats the only special right now that can get overcapped on crit)

Also, even if you are below crit cap for some reason, the two buffs should be used separately.

The reason for that is that the marginal dps increase after going from aprox 90% crit to 100% is less than going from 25 to 35%. The numbers are rough but you get the idea. Also using the buffs with different timing also increases the overall flurry uptime during dw.

The only situation that using AoK and Recklessness together could be usefull is when you get a 3+ target situation where you can cleave freely and you have no rage starvations issues. Ofc in this situation the adds must live longer than the buffs duration and you must switch back to your main target before they are dead.

All those situations are pretty much never going to happen but you're right, the max benefit will be slightly less considering flurry uptime and CS eDps benefit. And its hard to overcap crit on anything else than BT with both aok and reck up imo so cleaving with both up is viable but again, probably not maximizing crit benefit

I appologise if what I said was unclear. The impression I got from the above posters was down playing the significance of crit capping white swings. I pointed out that white swings make up a significant portion of our damage.

I doubt that crit capping white swings will be an issue this expansion like it was last expansion without all the gear inflation but the point is worth making.

The other comment about crit capping Blood Thirst was relevant to Recklessness.

I'm considering faction changing and I was wondering which SIMS better for racials out of human and Worgen. My gutt tells me its better to play Worgen then rely on weapon drops but Human does cover 2/3 of the weapons we're likely to use.

Thanks

Worgen. The Exp boost is currently much too easy to make up in BiS gear. If there was less of it available, it might make a difference, but as is, it really doesn't matter much.

I really like the new setbonus.
The first 2P bonus gives revenge a new strong place in my 4.3 rotation, which it had nearly lost due to the threat-change n 4.2.
The warrior however get's really strong on those group CD things. With RalleyCry and the 4P bonus one can drastically improve the raid-alive-time on AoE encounters!

What do you think about those?

Excuse me always played Arms, respecced just now and im not sure about this:
As an orc TG fury i'm wielding an axe in MH and mace in OH.
Shall i reforge to 26/23 or 29/26? cheers

26/23

I didn't find the answer for this one elsewhere :
If I get a victory rush proc, should I include it in my rotation as fury TG and how ?

Thank you.