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On a Felmyst attempt this was my highest DW ticks.

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15/46/0 (Dragonstrike MH, Blade of Savagery OH)

 

shed

Pretty worthless epeen post there, how about some real details, what spec and weapon setup?

 

outcast

Brut just now worked better than expected. 3682dps according to recount (tad above 3min fight), using a 53/8/0 arms/SD spec and dualwielding both glaives (sword spec obviously). Regemmed for crit and got rid of BB leggings in favor of T6 as for gear changes, used agi food, agi pot and agi scroll along with sharpening stone on OH (erm, I could have placed one on MH too, dang) - with over 55% crit rate midfight. Was fooling around some, part of fight in battle stance (rend/OP, execute and MS), a part in zerker with MS/WW/execute. Server dead now during Felmyst..

e: WOW Meter Online - More logs!!!!!!

 

Intorainbow

I wonder what will be the best spec for me now 53-8 or 15-46 as I wearing Glaive in MH and Grip of Mannoroh in OH. Also has Mounting Vengense, may be it will be better in OH now?
And what stanse is better for 53-8 build?

 

Graul

WOW Meter Online - More logs!!!!!! (3952) Brutallus as 53/8 Axe (2h) in Battle Stance

Raynorxx from Simple Math did 4100 using two one-handed S3 axes as 53/8 Axe in Berserker stance simply playing a lazy Fury style and prioritizing Execute > WW > MS > Heroic.

 

Aedon

what spec? weapons? etc etc?

 

Zeiten

hio, is there any confirmation that dual moongose is better for 1h fury now instead of arp? seen landsouls sheete, but cant use it :/

if it is so, why is it that dual moongose will be a bigger boost that executioner? Or does it dual moongose only outscale at a certain arp %?

regards from retarded zeiten unable to use souls dps sheet. ty for answers in advance, and sry if this question offends anyone.

 

furia-

I tried both 15-46 and 15-38-8 and found 15-38-8 to be somewhat better (assuming you've got a feral), but both do the job. If you did take the fury route you'd probably want to go with the faster offhand.

Using 15-38-8 and a slow mh / fast oh combo (duel glaives) i'd hit 4100 on teron with deep wounds at it's peak ticking for 7496.

 

Cobalt

How has gear itemization changed here?

Ive heard some stuff about Bloodboil pants are a poor choice if you have T6 pants available. Gloves of Immortal Dusk aren't as great...stuff like that. Any CONCRETE changes that many of us should be aware of?

 

teenbcn

Thought it was worth a post, because it's very impressive and also screams for nerf (or we shall call it fix?).

4665DPS on Brutallus last night.

It was done with dual glaive set and a mix of Sunwell/BT gear as you can see in my profile. The spec was the usual 1h fury just to get deep wounds and then as far as possible into fury. I intentionally stacked a bit on crit to make deep wounds roll as much as possible. Executioner on MH and Mongoose on offhand, couldn't really be arsed to re-enchant and stuff cos I was already late that night

Below de the recount screenshot and the WoW Meter Online report.

Recount Screenshot - Brutallus 4665 DPS

WoW Meter Online - Brutallus 4665 DPS

Notice the high crit % and the juicy deep wounds rolling for an average of 5k and hitting as high as 10k. It is in fact as hilarious as how much SWP it's been nerfed :p

NOTE: For some reason WoW Meter link is not working, seems like the Brutallus log got removed, will see if I can get it back. Meanwhile, recount screenshot should be enough.

 

Elumako

Mind taking a SS of your gear loadout for that fight, and a Wowhead / MMO link to the spec? Just trying to get some comparisons.

 

teenbcn

Talents

Armory

The gear setup I've used is exactly the same shown on the armory bu instead of Madness of the Betrayer, I was using Shard of Contempt

 

Elumako

I figured as much, re: the trinket selection, hehe.

I'm just bouncing back and forth on whether to pick up Imp. Execute, or Bloodsurge. Especially with a 1H fury build, it seems like the damage potential for execute would be higher, but I don't have enough "maths" to make a clear decision either way. /o\

Insight always appreciated; thanks for the swift reply.

 

ambient

with 21 slams, did you have 21 bloodsurges? 21/26 bloodthirsts being crits just seems ridiculous even with over 40% unbuffed crit.

 

Malloron

If the answer to this is somewhere, please direct me to it, because it eludes me:

Im currently arms, but reading up on TG, and probably will do TG for levelling.

My weapons are Cat's Edge and Blade of Harbingers, which are both 3.50 speed.

Now. Ill end up at ~30 % crit with some odd 250-300 hit rating, which means I wont miss that much, and my crit rate will mean I expect to see a lot of 0-100 rage every 3.5 seconds (minus flurry and haste)

Im not even sure if it is a problem, but I was wondering about slam mechanics, and if a non-instant slam can be used to unsync the two weapons?

In a raid environment, I cant even see how you will be able to get rid of all yoru rage with a TG specc, since we are looking at 45% crit, close to hitcapped with 4k+ AP swings going out every ~2 seconds.

Got carried away, but the non-instant slam question is the essence of the above.

 

teenbcn

I did more slams than bloodsurges procs, this was done because I wanted to try it out, see how it turned to be as it was my first raid post 3.0.2 and more of a test than anything else. But no, 21slams in that recount doesn't mean 21 bloodsurges.

Hopefully the WoW Meter Online link will work as soon as the data can be backed up again, then you can check more throughfully.

 

Pillion

My guild is just starting Hyjal so the badge fist weapons are the best weapons currently avaialable to me at this time.

I'm having trouble deciding on a spec, but this is a starting build I'm considering.

Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

We typically have a feral druid in our raids and since Rampage doesn't stack with LotP I don't think it is worth picking up. I'm unsure about Bloodsurge, because I don't know if it will fit in to a the attack rotation properly (ie missing the instant slam because whirlwind / bloodthrist is up or delaying the use whirlwind / bloodthrist because of the slam attack).

I picked up Furious Attack because we are doing Hyjal and we typically don't have a rogue that raids with us regularly.

Here is a link to my armory. Any advice on spec would be greatly appreciated.

 

Neurot

I tried reading thru the post going back a month or so & i didnt seem to find a clear answer about how DW 2H'ers should be best enchanted. normally i always put savagery on 2H'ers, but now with TG avaliable should i enchant them like 1H'ers with executioner & mongoose.
I was actually thinking double mongoose. but then i think with the proc & the slow speed something more the consistant +70AP savagery on each would pan out better. i assume executioner will just become less potent over time. then again i guess so will 70AP. the short list i saw of the WotLK enchants was rather unimpressive (edit). im actually at a loss here speed & crit procs of mongoose, +140Ap every hit, or combo them still with executioner

(edit) found a better list of WotLK enchants... Accuracy might be the way to go , Berserking gives me a chubby also

 

Mercy XXVI

Except for the fact that Berserking actually gives you less benefit as your armor gets better because of Armored to the Teeth. Unless this has been fixed since the last time I read about it.

 

smilingbandit2

Quick question: What would be the +hit necessary to overcome the various penalties for wielding two two-handed weapons with Titan's Grip? I'm at 340 presently. (My Armory Profile)

 

Neurot

yeah youre most likely right. it would turn out to be 6 of this or half dozen of the other. i got a little too excited when i saw the 400 AP proc.. my gear now is only about 10k armor so i didnt think much about AttT being worth it just yet. then again i shouldnt be thinking about titans grip just yet either. maybe when we're all 80 & we ask santa for some decently itemized gear being a fury warrior wont be such mathmatical nightmere.

 

Stink

Assuming 3/3 Precision, you need 21% hit (332 hit rating) to not miss with specials. Any hit rating over 331 becomes greatly devalued vs other stats. Alliance only need to have 20% hit assuming a Draenei is in the raid (1% hit racial).

 

smilingbandit2

Thank you! Out of curiosity, what the most valuable stat, now that my hit is where it should be? I would assume crit, but I'm not super familiar with theorycraft.

 

Warfield

Just for clarity, when patch 3.0.3 is pushed live, and the Titan's Grip penalty is reduced to 12%:

Assuming 3/3 Precision, at level 70 you need 18% hit (284 hit rating) to not miss with specials. Alliance only need to have 17% hit (268 rating) assuming a Draenei is in the raid (1% hit racial).

 

smilingbandit2

Forgive me if this question is a bit vague, but is missing w/ my specials all that matters? What sort of penalties am I looking at with my white damage, specifically in a raid situation? Is 332(284) enough to deal with that as well?