Mists of Pandaria: All Specs - Page 24

• Gorinho · 11/08/12, 1:00 PM

Originally Posted by PainInTheSomething

I wasn't finding TC every 6 secs and Revenge enough to hold against 3 dps pulling 40k plus dps, so I was using cleave to generate some more threat, but at 30 rage per, I was burning through it. I tried marking a kill order, but these guys seem to do what they want. My TC only does 8018 dmg according to the tool tip; is that reasonable for pre-raid gear or should I be looking for a stat to bring it up? Thanks

I tend to heroic leap into multiple mob trash packs, it does some decent damage and usually that and a TC are more than enough to hold threat

Diwata · 11/08/12, 2:15 PM

Originally Posted by Ascar

i can confirm that. If you have 2 charges of Raging Blow! and perform a raging blow simcraft will use both charges. Sucks, because i can't sim stacking raging blows for cs phases.

Another note: i'm simming more than 3k dps ahead of the provided Warrior Fury 1h t14h bis profile, with this profile:

warrior fury bis sim - Pastebin.com

basically i changed the darkmist vortex trinket for lei shin's orders, the 2nd sha weapon offhand for the weapon with the gem slot and made simcraft line all cooldowns with bloodbath (including engineering spec instead of jewelcrafting) and using dragon roar with bloodbath+cd's active before applying cs or after cs debuff drops off.

Because of the bug above, i couldn't try to sim keeping 1 raging blow buff for cs, if it procc's on a bs <6 sec before cs is off cd, but i think it'll be a dps gain.

The profile may not be perfect, but it definitly sim's way better than the current "bis" profile, so i wanted to share my results.

I just updated the latest Warrior profiles on the SimCraft SVN with these. It should now take effect on the latest build.

Tauftamir · 11/12/12, 6:31 PM

Originally Posted by PainInTheSomething

I wasn't finding TC every 6 secs and Revenge enough to hold against 3 dps pulling 40k plus dps, so I was using cleave to generate some more threat, but at 30 rage per, I was burning through it. I tried marking a kill order, but these guys seem to do what they want. My TC only does 8018 dmg according to the tool tip; is that reasonable for pre-raid gear or should I be looking for a stat to bring it up? Thanks

On the armory you have 2% and 4% expertise. That's the only thing which stands out unless you're not in defensive stance or lagging.

If you cap these through gems/reforging/enchants you should be able to pull 80k DPS just from spamming revenge and using thunder clap and shockwave on cooldown on a pack of 5-6 mobs. You'll also have so much rage that you can keep Block and Barrier up without problems.
If you're having trouble with very large packs (e.g. 20+ mobs) drop a mocking banner.

Malarik · 11/13/12, 1:11 AM

Hi all, I have a simcraft issue, playing as arms whilst being hit capped and expertise capped, it is still showing my hit/expertise weights as > 1 SEP, any ideas why this is? im worried its throwing my other stat weights out and its kind of important for gemming with crit at roughly 0.5 SEP atm.

Berthold · 11/13/12, 9:34 AM

for hit/expertise simcraft calculates what would happen if you *lose* rating, not gain as the former would be 0 for most (hit-capped) players, so everything is fine

Kurathikai · 11/14/12, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by Malarik

Hi all, I have a simcraft issue, playing as arms whilst being hit capped and expertise capped, it is still showing my hit/expertise weights as > 1 SEP, any ideas why this is? im worried its throwing my other stat weights out and its kind of important for gemming with crit at roughly 0.5 SEP atm.

Change the options to "Use positive deltas only" and it will treat it as if you add stats, thus fixing your problem.

Jambo354 · 11/15/12, 10:10 AM

Any other Fury have noticed buggy behavior with Bloodsurge? More often than not when I get my 3x Wild Strike proc, at least one of the three Wild Strikes will not consume a stack of Bloodsurge and the GCD is not reduced to 1 seconds. This is very annoying and messes up my rotation.

Riapla · 11/19/12, 7:33 AM

Hi, i was searching for a Best in Slot list for Fury in MoP but couldn`t find anything?
Can someone help me where to fin a BiS list?

pizz · 11/19/12, 7:39 AM

Originally Posted by Riapla

Hi, i was searching for a Best in Slot list for Fury in MoP but couldn`t find anything?
Can someone help me where to fin a BiS list?

Avast • View topic - Esoterickk's MoP Fury Warrior Guide (Patch 5.0)

Scroll down a bit, it's there.

Riapla · 11/19/12, 9:34 AM

Originally Posted by pizz

Avast • View topic - Esoterickk's MoP Fury Warrior Guide (Patch 5.0)

Scroll down a bit, it's there.

Thank you.

Voxxel · 11/22/12, 6:01 PM

Hello,

Tried to find some up-to-date info about the recommended SMF off-hand enchant but didn't find anything accurate.
I know the Dancing Steel will be included to RPPM system so the Windsong will be better in 5.1 but not yet? Does that mean we can benefit more from a dual Dancing Steel these days still? Or is it patched already and we should change to Windsong for now?

silendeath · 11/23/12, 2:08 AM

Is this site still active like it used to be in the past? What ever happened to the separate spec theory crafting? has it moved to a different site?

Berthold · 11/23/12, 3:55 AM

Simcraft says for SMF 14N:
5.0 double dancing steel ~300 dps better than Steel/Song
5.1 double dancing steel ~ 900 dps better than Steel/Song

Regarding spec discussions: Apart from the prot section, nobody wanted/wants to host the thread so currently there is no specific fury/arms thread.

Qru · 11/23/12, 9:56 PM

i have some questions about fury dps, when your using bloodthirst and then CS, and both crits and you get an enrage effect, i then normally use 1 raging blow, then 3 wild strikes, then bloodthirst then the last raging blow with a possibility of a second one.

is it like this my rotation should look? or should i use both raging blow before the 3 wild strikes?

also, recklessness glyph worth using? 18 secs duration, gives more time to get some more bloodthirst crits though.

Dexteris · 11/23/12, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by Qru

i have some questions about fury dps, when your using bloodthirst and then CS, and both crits and you get an enrage effect, i then normally use 1 raging blow, then 3 wild strikes, then bloodthirst then the last raging blow with a possibility of a second one.

is it like this my rotation should look? or should i use both raging blow before the 3 wild strikes?

also, recklessness glyph worth using? 18 secs duration, gives more time to get some more bloodthirst crits though.

Raging blow being your highest damage ability, you should use both of them using 2 GCD out of 4(in your CS debuff). In my opinion, you should never delay a bloodthirst because you want to maximize your rage generation. If you get a crit out of bloodthirst or you have your Berserker rage off CD, you can fill your fourth GCD with another raging blow. This will maximize the damage done with your CS debuff.

And if you have enought rage to land some HS even w/o Deadly Calm, do it at this moment. Same with your heroic leap if off CD.

For Recklessness glyph, I don't really see the need to use it over Raging wind(if AOE fight), Unending Rage (at all time) and heroic leap(at all time) or rude interuption( fight with some interupts to do). Probably it is better if it is a static fight where you are always hiting the same mobs...