BT>RB>(filler)

Filler (equiv to 2 1.5s GCDs) Priority:
1. BloodsurgeWS
2. Exec
3. Rend
4. Shout
5. WS

Only considering BT, RB, and WS, a fully closed rotation will be extremely expensive. 70% of the time it will cost 90 rage every 6s, and 30% of the time will cost 60 rage every 6 seconds. We make about 10 RPS right now +/- some things... I can't imagine us hitting too many non Bloodsurge WS's.

I dont think its a bug. With how many things were changed on it, (rage cost, no cd) they have to be intending for us to maintain it.o

The current Protection changes leave me highly unimpressed: rage has become too similar to Holy Power, or more generally the generator/finisher resource model typified by Rogues.

Additionally, the current design has similar issues to the 4.0 Protection paladin, where you are encouraged to sit on your rage (Holy Power) until a boss special/string of unblocked hits and then Shield Block/Last Stand (use Word of Glory) rather than spending it whenever you cap with Heroic Strike/Cleave/etc (Shield of the Righteous/Inquisition). This isn't an engaging or enjoyable mechanic, which is why WoG was given a cooldown, and why in 5.0 all Holy Power finishers have a survivability mechanic.

The easiest way to discourage this behaviour would be to reduce the rage cost of our "finishers" to something like 50 - 60 rage, but I'd prefer a change which moved away from the generator/finisher resource model.

For fury, due to the hit being removed from Crazed Berserker. do you think they are going sort out the dual wield miss chance out? Because 60 - 90 rage without doing so is going be pretty hard to keep up at the start of the tier. Also from the look of things it kinda feels like an Enhance Shaman, spam abilities, no more rage banking or anything challenging.

I expect that haste will become a lot more desirable for fury than it currently is, since Deep Wounds is no more, Flurry doesn't proc off crit, and mastery will increase our damage by a lot less (since Death Wish and Enrage no longer increase damage directly, but rather increase rage generation). Unless they rework our mastery, that is.

Based on the current talents, I'm speculating that hit will be our best stat, followed by haste.

The impression I got from building rage, and dumping it with high rage attacks was that it was more like hunter focus then our current rage model. I'm interested to see how it works out, and how this will impact our rotations.

I am very curious how Bladestorm will interact with Fury. How it will balance SMF with TG and more importantly how in the world a bladestorming TG Warrior will not make healers run for mommy.

A new version has been released and Warriors got a very significant amount of changes:

Talent Calculator - Game - World of Warcraft

Are are some I noticed:

• Deadly Calm now has 1 min CD.
• New talent Bloodbath
• New talent Storm Bolt
• Gag Order changed to work with Storm Bolt
• Enraged Regen changed to heal for 15% health and another 15% over 10 sec.

• Enraged mechanic change to be triggered by special abilities critical strikes and critical blocks.
• Removed Overpower CD.
• Added 1.5 CDs to every stance.
• Changed Berserker stance. Increases damage by 20% whenever an attack hits 4+ targets.
• Battle Shout increases attack power by 20% (akin to current attack power buffs like Blessing of Might, Trueshot Aura, etc).
• Rallying Cry back in.
• New skill: War Banner
• Shield Wall and Spell Reflection require shields again.
• Fury got CS back.
• Protection got Vengeance (though with the old incarnation)
• Shield Block cost reduced to 60 rage. Blocks next attack and increases block chance by 25% for 6 sec.
• Last Stand rage cost removed, 3 min CD added.
• Devastate armor reduction effect corrected.
• Sword and Board effect increases rage generation from Shield Slam by 5 (old incarnation increased by 10%).
• New ability: Shield Barrier. 60 rage, decreases magical damage taken by 25% for 6 sec.

I'm sure there are more though.

Arms rotation still doesn't seem figured out. Slam costs too much and so does CS, which is cornerstone due to Sudden Death. Rage generation for Arms has also been nerfed (at first look, not considering that MS now generates rage) due to the removal of Anger Management which used to generate 1 rage/3sec while in combat and increase rage generation from hits by 25% (MoP enrage mechanic, but with a 100% uptime).

Prot seems to work like Fury currently does, with 3 sec Devastate and filler GCDs in between, and the only important skills that cost rage are Shield Block/Barrier, Thunder Clap, Rend, Spell Reflection, Execute and HS/Cleave, so unless you're pressed to push threat or DPS, your only choice is between reducing physical or magical damage.

Fury's rotation remains how Landsoul posted it, with CS being baked in. Considering it's cost, the necessary rage per minute to keep a Fury rotation going seems even more ridiculous.

Seems like Deadly Calm may be the talent of choice in MoP for all specs, unless the CD on Bloodbath is drastically reduced. Of course, depending on Heroic Strike and Cleave baseline damage, the same could hold true for Storm Bolt, as well. I wonder if they'll update Glyph of Heroic Throw to also apply to Storm Bolt?

Possibly. Storm Bolt replaces Heroic Throw and glyphs like Sunder Armor work with Devastate, which replaces that it.

Storm Bolt could have a place in a single target rotation (maybe not for SMF), because 400% weapon damage is very significant (would hit much harder than Overpower, for instance) and I see a lot of rage issues with both DPS specs. The main problem though is if it will still reset your swing time as HT does.

This is a very problematic tier because both Bloodbath and Deadly Calm are straight out DPS abilities so it's really easy to math up which one is better. Without going into numbers, I can see BB being amazing on packs of mobs with TC, Bladestorm/Shockwave, Heroic Leap, etc.

Storm Bolt brings Warriors stun potential to the roof...we can have up to 4 stuns (Throwdown, Shockwave, Stormbolt and Charge).

With the latest version of the talents up I'm a little worried about the Prot Rotation. The cool downs of SS and revenge are 6 and 9 sec respectively. With Sword & Board only procing from revenge we would want SS prioritized over revenge, but that seems to create scenarios where the "free" SS is wasted due to it coming off CD anyway.

For example:

0.0 SS
1.5 Rev no S&B
3.0 -
4.5 -
6.0 SS
7.6 -
9.0 -
10.5 Rev S&B proc here is wasted
12.0 SS

0.0 SS
1.5 Rev S&B
3.0 SS
4.5 -
6.0 -
7.6 -
9.0 SS
10.5 Rev original cycle repeats

This seems to be a pretty big flaw.