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Old 09/27/08, 6:37 PM   #726
Gruntle
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Tauren Warrior
 
Earthen Ring (EU)
You linked the same fight twice. If you had higher dps on Anetheron than on Naj/Zul'Jin I'm not very surprised.

Anatheron is one of the most warrior dps friendly fights there is. You get plenty of rage from ae damage, you can stand still most of the time (if lucky with the infernos and sleeps) and Anetheron is a low armor boss. The other fights are versus bosses with considerably different mechanics (less friendly to warrior dps) and they are high armor bosses (at least Naj is, not sure about Zul'jin). So not much to do, try to make sure not to overuse HS when in a fight where rage is a bit scarce.

If it's the other way around (that you do more dps on Naj/Zul) I can't really help you. In that case I'd say that RNG is messing with your head.
 
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Old 09/27/08, 7:45 PM   #727
wajcher
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Sorry, corrected the stats now.

Well, I'm wondering if that's still the DPS I should be putting out. According to the spreadsheet, I should be doing at least 400 more...

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Old 09/28/08, 4:42 AM   #728
Gruntle
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Spreadsheets are no good for estimating the absolute value of dps, use them to compare gear (or possibly specs, but that really relies on key talents being correctly modeled). A spreadsheet assumes perfect usage of Heroic strikes (i.e. no wasted rage at all) and perfect execution of the cycle. You won't be able to do any of them so being 20-40% off the mark is perfectly acceptable in my opinion.

As to your dps I think it is a little bit low, but the rest of your raid doesn't seem to be doing much better, so I guess it's just a matter of gear. You do have a couple of pieces that could use upgrading if you want to raid in MH/BT (T4 quality gear is a bit low in my opinion).
 
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Old 09/28/08, 7:23 AM   #729
wajcher
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Ok, cheers for helping out
 
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Old 09/28/08, 1:28 PM   #730
Ryo Saeba
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I'm sorry if this have been already asked before, I couldn't check properly, anyway... I have a question about Poleaxe Mastery.

Assuming I have 5/5 Poleaxe Mastery and I'm dual wielding an Axe (in Main Hand) and a fist (in Off Hand), the mastery bonus will affect the off hand too (+5% crit 5% crit damage) totally, partially or the off hand won't be affected at all?

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Old 09/28/08, 2:15 PM   #731
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It won't be affected at all. Weapon masteries are applied only to weapons that fit the requirements, just like the +expertise racials. The only "exception" to this is having a sword in the offhand with sword spec, the offhand procs will force a main hand extra swing. This still doesn't mean that the main hand will proc extra attacks, just that it benefits from them instead of the sword itself.

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Old 09/28/08, 2:16 PM   #732
Ryo Saeba
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Originally Posted by Voxx View Post
It won't be affected at all. Weapon masteries are applied only to weapons that fit the requirements, just like the +expertise racials. The only "exception" to this is having a sword in the offhand with sword spec, the offhand procs will force a main hand extra swing. This still doesn't mean that the main hand will proc extra attacks, just that it benefits from them instead of the sword itself.
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Old 09/29/08, 10:40 AM   #733
Heratius
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Durotan
Is the 4pc tier 6 bonus worth getting. Or am I better off using the myriad of armor pieces I have collected in BT. The Spreadsheets don't seem to take into account the set bonus's.

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Old 09/29/08, 12:05 PM   #734
DarkS
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Originally Posted by Heratius View Post
Is the 4pc tier 6 bonus worth getting. Or am I better off using the myriad of armor pieces I have collected in BT. The Spreadsheets don't seem to take into account the set bonus's.

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Grim13 and Landsoul's spreadsheets takes into account the 4xpieces T6 bonus. What about check look section?
 
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Old 09/29/08, 3:29 PM   #735
Heratius
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Originally Posted by DarkS View Post
Grim13 and Landsoul's spreadsheets takes into account the 4xpieces T6 bonus. What about check look section?
I have landsoul's. I switched both the 2pc and the 4pc bonus section to 1 and it didn't change the overall dps. Its almost like it's not taking them into account. I will try the other one you mentioned.
 
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Old 09/29/08, 4:10 PM   #736
Heratius
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Durotan
Ok so Grims worked out for me and according to my calculation its a detriment to go for a 4pc bonus. Which I think is just bad itemization.
 
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Old 09/30/08, 7:45 AM   #737
DarkS
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Originally Posted by Heratius View Post
Ok so Grims worked out for me and according to my calculation its a detriment to go for a 4pc bonus. Which I think is just bad itemization.
It depends on the rest of your gear. I'm currently using the 4 pieces set bonus even if I don't have yet any of the SWP T6 parts. For me is a little DPS increase.
 
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Old 09/30/08, 8:31 AM   #738
edv
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Ravencrest (EU)
Pardon my ignorance but I've been away from WoW for a while. Does Deep Wounds still reset after every crit, meaning it ticks less for those who crit often?
 
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Old 09/30/08, 9:53 AM   #739
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Originally Posted by edv View Post
Pardon my ignorance but I've been away from WoW for a while. Does Deep Wounds still reset after every crit, meaning it ticks less for those who crit often?
I'm not 100% sure, but I think that currently yes, it resets everytime you crit.

In Wrath this is fixed, it 'rolls' like the current version of ignite.

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Old 09/30/08, 11:37 AM   #740
Gink
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I thought they removed the rolling when they cut the duration to 6 seconds and made it tick once per second?

And yes, Deep Wounds does reset on each crit.

 
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Old 09/30/08, 12:17 PM   #741
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Originally Posted by Gink View Post
I thought they removed the rolling when they cut the duration to 6 seconds and made it tick once per second?
It's still there according to this post WotLK talent Preview/Discussion and the one just below it.

EDIT: Gink let me know that he couldn't see the post (I use a differnt post count per page): It's post 2607 and 2608 in the http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t27758-w...ew_discussion/ thread.

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Originally Posted by Ghostcrawler, justifying Druid health > Warrior health
To be generous, the warrior has 50K and the druid has 55K? How many times is that 5K going to make a difference when the boss hits for 40K? I know more Stam is always better, even in relatively trivial amounts. But until the magnitude is so large that the druid can survive one more hit than the warrior, it isn’t likely to crop up often.
Clearly someone doesn't understand how EH works. That, or upgrading from T8 to T9 is optional in beating Arthas. Clearly.
 
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Old 09/30/08, 1:27 PM   #742
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Originally Posted by Liar View Post
It's still there according to this post WotLK talent Preview/Discussion and the one just below it.
I think you have another post count per page than me, I see no posts about Deep Wounds when clicking that link.

But I just logged on PTR and respecced into Deep Wounds. It does still roll, but it only stacks once, so you can make it tick for maximum double damage.
My normal Deep Wounds when I specced 15/5/0 (yea I just wanted to check Deep Wounds) was 115-120ish, when I popped Recklessness and critted multiple attacks in rapid succession it only stacked to about double that.

 
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Old 10/10/08, 9:39 AM   #743
wajcher
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It seems I've got the DPS problem again; I've obtained a few new pieces, got loads of Armor Penetration, but I'm afraid I lost too much crit rating for it. I've been doing better earlier and can't really see the benefits of Armor crab yet. Can anyone help me here?

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Old 10/10/08, 12:57 PM   #744
Boorach
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Human Warrior
 
Aggramar (EU)
Personally I would be looking to swap out your crit gems for strength. Your threat output will be much smoother that way and strength per point is more valuable than crit. Otherwise your gear is pretty good (prob slightly better than my fury gear) but your DPS is still a little low so concentrate on your rotations and maximising your damage per point of rage. Your WWS report shows that you are not getting a windfury totem which will have a MAJOR effect on your DPS so I would be asking my raid leader for a shammy!!

TBH though, with patch 3.0.x less than a week away (hopefully), you will only have a couple more raids with your current spec!! Start reading http[Warrior] WotLK talent Preview/Discussion / and planning your new build!!
 
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Old 11/02/08, 8:56 PM   #745
Wrata
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Is there some topic where i can found 3.0.2+ info? I have some questions and wanna know answers for them.
 
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Old 11/03/08, 10:26 AM   #746
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http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t12386-w...e_dps_warrior/

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http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t27758-w...ew_discussion/
 
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Old 11/03/08, 10:45 AM   #747
Wrata
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Already looked into those two topics but didn't find what i wanna know. New ignore armor info, weapon enchants for TG warrior, glyphs etc. Like the way Voxx creted first post in this topic
 
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Old 11/03/08, 10:55 AM   #748
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Originally Posted by Wrata View Post
Already looked into those two topics but didn't find what i wanna know. New ignore armor info, weapon enchants for TG warrior, glyphs etc. Like the way Voxx creted first post in this topic
It's spread over those 300 pages. There is no compendium for 3.0. Your questions have most likely been asked twenty times by now. Use the search function or wait.

 
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Old 11/03/08, 11:09 AM   #749
Wrata
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Originally Posted by dr_AllCOM3 View Post
It's spread over those 300 pages. There is no compendium for 3.0. Your questions have most likely been asked twenty times by now. Use the search function or wait.
Tryed to search for "armor pene" and "armor penetration" and nothing showed

Edit: Tryed it right now and found some topics. Sorry tho.

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Old 11/03/08, 1:12 PM   #750
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Search for posts, not threads.

 
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