I'm still a bit shaky on the mitigation end of the lvl 80 prot warrior. First big question is about crushing is it still in the game and is there anyway to wipe it from the table now that shield block has been changed. Also what is the cap on armor for dmg reduction. Thanks for any help offered.

Thanks for posting the hit/expertise caps, Steve! I was wondering about what the level 80 values would be...

I haven't yet seen the breakdown of SEP at 80 with an 18/53/0 build... With the changes to armor pen and what not, I'm not sure if once I cap out hit and exp if I should attempt to stack crit, haste, or arp.

If anyone has quick access to a list of stats to prioritize for level 80 raiding and to what degree, I would really appreciate it!

EDIT: Remembered the name of what I was looking for.

Hello everyone!

I've got some questions about my warrior. I hope you can give me an answer:

First:
I know that Agility gives a raise to critics percentage, and Cruelty (is this the name of one of the first talents of fury? I play in spanish, so I don't know the talent's name in english) gives a +5% to critics too when attacking with melee weapons, but I've noticed that when I look my stats, the critics percentage it's a little bit lower than the sum of my crit given by agility and the crit given by Cruelty (of course, I've got a melee weapon equipped), so I wonder if there are another stat or circumstance that I'm missing on the math. I haven't any equipment (in fact I tried without any piece of armor, shield, trinket, etc... equipped, only the main hand weapon), buff, debuff or talent that affects crit.

Maybe the +5% of Cruelty is not so exact?

For example, I've got an 8'88% of crit given by agi and the 5% of Cruelty and the crit percentage shown in melee stats is about 13'70%, not 13'88. Is there a reason for that?

Second:

Is there too much difference between leveling in arms and leveling in fury? What spec is better for leveling?

Saizul: Slow off-hands are preferred to maximize the damage dealt by Whirlwind. It used to be that a fast off-hand was preferred because Deep Wounds would always base its damage on the main-hand, even if it was an off-hand auto-attack crit that procced it, but since that was changed, the prevailing trend went back to slow OHs.

Ginormus: Yes, crushing blows were changed to only happen against mobs 4 levels higher than the player. No, boss mobs are not level 84, they are still level 83, hence making crushing blows a mechanic that exists only if you try to attack mobs that outlevel you significantly.

Crushing blows will not a part of the level 80 raiding/instancing game, at all.

Vismor: Simply put, base crit is not 0%. That is, if you had no AGI at all, your crit chance would be in the negative.

I am playing in Wowchina, which is still patch 2.4. Therefore is there anywhere i can download the fury warrior dps spreadsheet 2.4? Or can anyone please send it to me through email: skydown13@yahoo.com? I would be grateful, thank you!

Prinsesa: Thanks, I didn't know that .

I know that the first priority in a dps fury warrior should be the 9% of Hit and the 6,25 of Expertise but.. At which level should I start finding equipment with Hit and Expertise? Now, I'm just level 35.

By the way...
Is there any thread where I could see the base stats of each race and class?

Thanks, everybody.

Edited:

Grammar faults like '¿' at the start of questions.
Erased emoticons.

Sorry for that, I'm not native speaker.

Hit and expertise shouldn't really concern you until level 76 or so, but + hit items will start popping up from level 40ish onwards, and expertise... well, aside from raiding items from either old level 60 and 70 raids, there isn't enough expertise to go anywhere near the cap while leveling. Also, keep in mind that, probably at level 60 or so, you'll be getting Titan's Grip. That kinda makes you need 14% for the cap.

Expertise is a red gem, and parry rating got buffed, but is still inferior to dodge in pure % avoidance terms.

Dodge, Parry, Expertise and Strength are the only things you should look for if you want a red-based stat. Dodge and Parry are basically equivalent, though I have no idea if the diminishing returns negatively affects stacking a single avoidance stat (since the stat becomes increasingly valuable as you stack it up - without seeing any math on it, I'm guessing that the two simply work to offset one another). So, if you're looking for avoidance purple, dodge is probably your best/only bet.

e: beaten on parry stuffs.

One questions I am not sure of yet is are the enchants like mongoose/executioner diminished like crusader was in BC? How are other new enchants compared to these two? Accuracy seems nice.

Yes, 361 hit is the cap to aim for 0 misses on your yellow abilities, if you have both Titan's Grip and Precision.